Why Hardfork 0.20.0 Should Start At Utopian.io: Time For True Steemitizens To Speak Up!

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Steemians... I greet you. At times things happen and we continue to watch as though it's not our business. But in actual sense, it is our business — steem blockchain is a global business. @ned and @dan may have given us steem ecosystem but its chief means of sustenance is global investment. Hence, if anything happens to steem blockchain (God forbid) all of us — both Dick and Harry — would have our fingers to bite. Steem blockchain is a global project. All of us have a stake in it and as stakeholders and true lovers of steem blockchain, it behoves us to speak up when things are going wrong.

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World's renown literary icon, Chinua Achebe, once said and I quote...

"When an adult is in the house, a she-goat is not left to suffer the pains of parturition on its tether."

Steemit, as we know it, is rapidly changing. Things are getting more frustrating by the day. Today, I have choosen not to remain silent anymore. Today, I have choosen to be the voice of thousands of minnows whose efforts are being frustrated daily by those at helm of affairs of utopian-io — a well thought out project — but who are afraid to speak up for fear of their future contributions being rejected, flagged or coming under permanent suspension from making utopian-io targeted posts.

As a Steem-Ambassador, I shouldn't shy away from lending my voice against obvious misdirection of what happens to be the biggest and most impactful project ever built on steem blockchain. I am aware that respected Steemians (most of who had delegated their SP to utopian-io) whose opinions are not taking with pinch of salt may not have been aware of the current happenings at utopian-io, neither do successful steemians; in fact, I believe, any Steemian who sees $5/post would not border himself with making utopian-io targeted posts.

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That is to say that those who would have spoken up may not have been in the know. Utopian-io is flooded mostly with people who are in dire need to earn, people who are on the verge of abandoning their accounts, people who spend hours drafting a post and at the end of the day they earn less than $1. And I don't think steemit, as we see it, will be interesting without minnows and other low ranking members.

This post is not a call for people to withdraw their delegations nor for @ned to cancel his own but for utopian-io policy makers to have a rethink on the way they keep making unfavorable policy changes that seem to be against the tenets for which this project was created and massively supported. It is a call for respected and influential Steemians to call @elear and his team to order.

Why would @ned and team be busy working for successful adoption of Hardfork 0.20.0 while utopian-io leadership is busy churning out policies that seem to be antagonistic to the goals of the upcoming Hardfork?

Among the major issues Harfork 0.20.0 would take care of is fastening the process of account creation to attract millions of users to steem ecosystem...

...to support signup improvements on Steemit.com and other sites to bring more users into the Steem ecosystem.

We want to grow Steem to at least to size of Reddit, hopefully larger. Reddit currently has 234 million unique users a month...

Having read what to expect with successful adoption of Hardfork 0.20.0, I decided to speak up against what I consider obnoxious, stifling and unstable policies being churned out daily at utopian-io, which are obviously against the tenets of the proposed Hardfork 0.20.0. @ned and team are concerned with increasing the userbase of steemit.com while the process to achieve that is being unfairly hampered by those who should encourage it.

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To be honest, I had wanted to write this post in January when there was a sudden change in requirements for Visibility Category, but an utopian.io Supervisor, having heard my views, said I had valid points and advised I communicate utopian-io team via their Suggestion-for-rule-change Channel. I did as advised and will upload the screenshots at appropriate paragraph in this article.

My case against utopian-io overseers and Why I am raising this issue at this time

I believe if there is any few Steemians who have given their time, energy and resources for success of steem blockchain, I, without sounding immodest, am among. Few weeks after I joined steemit and had realized the benefits of population to steem health, using whatsaap as a communication tool, I convinced 67 persons of my whatsaap contacts to join steemit. This post is not intended to write about my contributions in detail but I have to highlight some of my important achievements so that you appreciate my background and passion for the success of steem blockchain. You can go here, here and here to get a glimpse of what I have been able to do within the time I have been here. It was on the bases of my achievements that I was made a @sndbox fellow and then much later a Steem-Ambassador.

I am one of the Steemians genuinely concerned about the success of this program. I am wearing steemit shoe and can tell exactly where the needle is pinching me. @euronation, a newbie recruitment scheme I have the privilege of founding and leading, is built from the scratch. Over 90% of its 260+ members was recruited through my whatsaap based visibility effort. These are virgin Steemians that I recruited and inspired i
to become hyperactive Steemians.

utopian-io leadership banned whatsaap based visibility contributions

The fact that I had started my whatsaap based webinar on Steemit program long before utopian-io was founded, should tell you that utopian-io rewards wasn't the motivating factor. However, when utopian-io came onboard, I was happy that at least one would be getting some form of rewards for the difficult task of onboarding and guiding new people.

So I, in consultation with @euronation leadership, decided to create an account @euronation for #Euronation community. And the intention was to build its Steem power via earnings from utopian-io rewarded whatsaap based visibility campaigns and use it to curate posts of @euronation community members, who are earning less than $0.05/post. This was my grand plan and I was out to get it executed. Consequently, all my whatsaap based visibility efforts were being reported via @euronation account and submitted to utopian-io for curation.

Day in day out, I used to be all over the internet, joining forums and hundreds of whatsaap rooms to invite people to my webinar. I had had to change my line severally due to Whatsaap and Telegram bans all in determined effort to onboard more people and also build the community account. So you can imagine my frustration when I learnt, surprisingly, that utopian-io no longer accept whatsaap-based visibility posts.

For what reasons did utopian-io leadership ban whatsaap-based visibility posts

I wanted to know if utopian-io leadership have valid reasons for such action, so I went to find out why. And disappointedly, I was told it doesn't cost much to promote Steemit program via whatsaap. Secondly, there are a lot of contributions from that category, and so to them, it is ideal to discourage contributions in that category. Okay. Good and fine.Please read on to see why utopian-io team must be called to order.

I couldn't take it. I went to their Suggestion-for-rule-change Channel and left this complaint as shown by the screenshot image below...

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My complaint was thrown into the waste bin, of course

And the new rule?

As part of the new conditions, any visibility effort must have proof of 1000 reach. Promoters responded by using sponsored ad placement on social media (Facebook, tweeter, etc) and were achieving the target. This didn't go down well with utopian-io leadership, and the threshold was raised to 5000 reach. The promoters was hitting that figure. The leadership responded yet again and raised the required reach to 10000. As if that's not enough, below is screenshot of additional conditions that must be met and those being considered, as responded by a member of my community who's in the know...

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These stifling policies are not only targeted against visibility category. Any category where there seems to be increasing contributions automatically becomes a target. And one is tempted to ask if utopian-io policy makers are not happy when they see people get rewarded for their contributions. At first, I thought, maybe, they are running out of voting power but, lo and behold, that's not the case as a several checks on their voting power showed it sitting conformably at 100% almost always.

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Conclusion: The proposed HF0.20.0 should start with utopian-io

I read in the news today about the dire state of cryptocurrencies and how 10 out of 11 major social media sites had banned cryptocurrency ad placement. And I ask; should we continue to look for where to place ad while we can encourage people to go on massive recruitment campaigns?

Utopian-io alone has the capacity to cause the influx of new members to steem ecosystem by rewarding those who are out in the field, working endlessly to onboard new people. The proposed Hardfork 0.20.0 risk not achieving its aims if the current happenings at utopian-io (with respect to visibility category) are not properly addressed. Let the proposed Hardfork 0.20.0 starts at utopian-io first!

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Hello @eurogee. I spent some time reading this post and the only thing I was able to catch is that you are against our rules, especially Visibility ones.

Let me explain you the following:

  • Rules are the result of continuous improvement based on community behaviours.

  • Rules are the results of legal issues that have to be handled.

  • There are laws which clearly say no promotion should happen without project owner's consensus. This we discovered lately and reacted accordingly.

  • Specifically for Whatsapp we have had too much of abuses and we believe whatsapp is not the right tool to promote Open Source projects.

but who are afraid to speak up for fear of their future contributions being rejected, flagged or coming under permanent suspension from making utopian-io targeted posts.

Looking at your rejected contributions https://utopian.io/@eurogee/contributions/flagged:

Utopian is for Open Source contributors who can provide valuable contributions, not for everyone. For that you have Steemit or Busy.org. We work constantly to improve quality in our platform and this is for the benefit of us all. I would suggest to look into community behaviour to understand where Utopian is going and the community behaviour so far has forced us to go stricter and stricter and we will keep doing it until the community can provide TOP quality contributions.

Last but not least we are on a full team restructure, which will see Supervisors going away and a new role, Community managers to show up, which will have more responsibilities, especially helping and supporting the community constantly.

Thanks for your feedback

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Hey @eurogee,
While it is definitely your right to share thoughts about any matter that concerns you, yet I believe you are unable to see the big picture, and this being because you are not involved in the daily moderation (curation) activities that our utopian team goes through on a daily basis - being a supervisor I have hands on experience with this, and most importantly the huge amount of abuse and "milking the system" activities that we see.
We are constantly faced with duplicate accounts, plagiarized content, stolen tutorials, pointless promotions, machine and incorrect translations,...to name a few, and those at times require drastic measures.
For visibility, and as a quick example, we have seen people promoting projects they have no clue about (2, 3, or 4 projects a day) nor that it would benefit neither the project nor the target audience, and hence causing more harm than usefulness to the project itself, and to steemit/utopian image (even legally this could backfire).
I am sure that is not what you would like to see happen, you know being a steemit-ambassador myself and a utopian supervisor, that's not the image I want to show or have about steemit and utopian :)
We are putting our utmost efforts into making the rules as fair to all, but also making sure to only reward the most valued, otherwise those who truly deserve will not get the reward they should be, and the vote power/reward pool will be abused. Have you seen something similar like this in steemit recently? :)
True, there will be times were good efforts will not be rewarded due to stricter rules, there is no such thing as a perfect system or rules, yet unfortunately that is a difficult situation were we hope won't happen too often.
Utopian rules are a continuous work in progress, and the team is in constant brainstorming about improving them, suggestions are always welcome.

Thanks you for such a detailed response my friend @mcfarhat. You are one of the few steemians I have great respect for. However, I do have some valid reasons to Disagree with you in this case, with all dues respect.

For visibility, and as a quick example, we have seen people promoting projects they have no clue about (2, 3, or 4 projects a day) nor that it would benefit neither the project nor the target audience, and hence causing more harm than usefulness to the project itself, and to steemit/utopian image (even legally this could backfire).
I am sure that is not what you would like to see happen, you know being a steemit-ambassador...

This is why I maintain that a standard should be out in place before any promoter is rewarded with say $60 worth of upvote. Utopian-io team can come up with something like...

Before a visibility post on steemit.com is accepted, the promoter must introduce 10 people and guide them to hit 30 reputation score

Now that above is a Reasonable target and anu one who wish to participate can go head and participate with a clear vision of what to deliver and amount to earn.

If 10 person do this in a day, that's 100 new persons introduced to steem ecosystem. With time, here will beehive of activities by people buying or selling steem. This whole thing will have positive impact on the price of steem cryptocurrency.

The current rules do not encourage the growth of this platform.

I am against it sire

@eurogee

@eurogee I never meet you before and have never visited your blog before, but I respect you from the way you address this.

This is why I maintain that a standard should be out in place before any promoter is rewarded with say $60 worth of upvote. Utopian-io team can come up with something like...
Before a visibility post on steemit.com is accepted, the promoter must introduce 10 people and guide them to hit 30 reputation score

I believe if @elear see to this rule and suggestion you bringing up..it will help the community along way..seriously with all the rules implemented in utopian-io contributors are withdrawing from contributing to open source projects.

I really buy the idea of bringing in 10 people and guide to reach a reputation of 30 and with that you will know how much you will be paid for it.

I had long suggested this but their unjust stance wouldn't let them see it. Steemit.com is a global project. How can a clique of people be preventing a way to make it more visible to potential investors and bloggers. This place stincks! Enough of these injustices!

Thanks for your valuable feedback @mcfarhat!

Hey bro @Eurogee,
thanks for speaking out. Are we going to be stoned for saying the truth?
Its appalling. Utopian used to be "the hope" now they have become "the toad" that croaks loud noises into our ears.
You know what they say,

If a child is pointing somewhere while crying, his mom or dad must be in that direction.

We need to say much more about all these dapp with the help of data. They are seriously underusing the SP that has been given to them.

They end up voting on particular set of people.

Very soon we may need to campaign and boycott all those dapps. At least they won't be cutting part of our earnings after refusing to ever curate.


@NairaDaddy, Founder of @Air-Clinic, Sndbox-Fellow & Steem-Ambassador

Utopian is not voting and has never voted a particular set of people. Our voting bot is Open Source and has always been like that. Latest version is here for everyone to review. https://github.com/utopian-io/api.utopian.io/blob/master/src/utopian-bot-new.ts

Hey @Elear,
with all due respect, the Utopian moderators are not doing the job. Sometimes they just reject a project without due consideration. Humanity demands that when you look at the amount of effort a person put in, even if you feel its missing a few standards, you can point it out for the person to edit. But no, whether out of unfathomable bias or jealosy they outrightly rejected a well-crafted project of ours.

Just take a look at this: The Medical Utopian Project- Air-Clinic's Minified Whitepaper

Up till today, I still don't understand why it was rejected without an opportunity for fair hearing or at least to edit certain things. This is a project that began from scratch as an Open-source project. We built a website for it and placed it on github. So why the rejection @elear?

That wasn't the first time it was happening. I don't want to say more.

We all know that the bots follow what the moderators do, and your moderators and supervisors are biased as far as I can tell.

I'm going to pull data and prove to the entire steem community that the leaders of Utopian-io are biased towards steemians in the use of their powers.

One even insulted me inbox. I don't need to mention names but its appalling.

Its sad that these same people also make Utopian contributions and quickly get verified. So is Utopian now a community for only the mods?

Perhaps, mods and sups should be stopped from contributing to Utopian because they are going to be biased always.

Utopian is turning into a giant circle-jerk for mods & sups.

I just hope that @elear can intervene. I read your blog story of how you started from the bottom as a young boy without a father. Give others a chance to shine too through the Utopian project.

Humans make rules not the other way around.

Thank you!

Oh @nairadaddy this is so awesome of you, i could remember same story and its appalling its the same Elear that was supposed to help others too, listen to the manipulations of his supervisors and mods... I see them coming out, its a shame the same Elear we know is no longer same person.

We all spend data, Money to run a post, all they do is reject it outrightly. I just hope the sponsors look into this..

if i am not mistaken the only Mod i know that normally defines users contributions as nonsense is ariestem, He has a ph degree with that insult embedded in him.
But we were told not to insult Mods but indirectly ☺ they keep insulting us.

That's exactly what you and your team do.. And there are even evidence of this.. Where a post that did not even meet specifications was approved and Upvoted because the account was connected to one of your super MODs.. And it's shocking the speed with which you replied this post..

It is a very disheartening condition. Those who are passionate for this scheme are not being supported. How will steemit.com achieve its target of onboarding over 200 million people monthly with the current happenings? @ned and team need to look in to this!

@eurogee

Well written @kekegist! It is amazing they still keep defending this obvious manipulation seen by many steemians. They can keep telling us what is not the case but we know these responses are games.

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Hey @eurogee. I gave my time to read all what you said in here and i give you my point in such terms you had explained. Utopian hold his shield by its rules agains the abuse and that is not so good for minnows to grow. I see and i can understand your concern about that. The fact is, utopian never meant to be a minnow supporter. There is another platforms a single person can do anything with. For example, "d" series i am calling. Entertainment is something for all! Let's see what visibility is;

Marketing and visibility actions for a brand.

In a modern world, every company acting carefully to carry their brand to the top. Under these circumstances they make a roadmap in order to improve their brand exactly "where they want to carry". You or me or someone else can not just pop-up and say something what we want to say by the rules of many goverments. Complain ? yes for sure!

Thin line in between "bad intention" and "good will"

  • What if i say right now steemit has sugar inside, please do not eat. Will make you cancer and cause you dead so badly!

How can someone say my intention good or bad ? At the same time i am protecting human being but in another way i am giving a bad name to the steemit itself also this is coming out by support of @utopian-io.

  • If i would be an owner of steemit, i would say why do you even supporting some random words targeting me under the headline of "visibility". Why dont you cooperate with me and learn from me what kind of advertisement i need for? Well i would love to do it in that way literally.

I am working with utopian as Moderator and Supervisor. since the very beginning. Not anymore. Yes platform has changed its behaviour in so many stricter way. Can not just blame the community abusers but also the reward balance was going on irrelevant subjects. Instead of concerning about the newcomers, we all have to think over about the good "content" in steemit. How could we pull more "qualified" persons into steem ecosystem while there is a tons of posts even against several ethic and written rules?

I hope

Utopian working hard to find a balance in there, i saw that so far. Yet nothing is perfect for new and marginal idea especially in more marginal platform! Lets give more feedback and suggestions to the utopian to make it perfect all together!

Thanks for reading.

Bros, uncle, woss!!!

Utopian isn't democratic.

Making suggestions and airing our views goes no where beyond the timeline on the time of posting. Why waste valuable insufficient energy profering solutions and suggestions that wouldn't even have a rethink..

The more the rules become stricter, the more the platform creates enemies, not in a violent way though. But very soon utopian will realise they can't actually survive without the backing of people

Hey hey @kodeblacc. I am a living witness that they are caring the suggestions by users. My suggestions was based on the "technical aspects" of utopian and they made some, they does not made some another. I do still believe as long as there is an @elear in charge, utopian will be more friendly with its users. Stricter rules are making damage to the wallets, that is why utopian creating an enemies in short and long term with stricter rules. Yes, platform was driven by community 2-3 months ago but the community could not take that chance for giving a decision to get a more quality. Lately, utopian started to make changes for "all". As far as i know there will be more changes to catch a frequency in utopian. The account of @utopian-io is also chronicle about its progress. Thus, can be analyzed easily where utopian came from and where utopian goes right now. I am wondering a future of utopian as like you do.

Your opinion is well noted. Thanks you.

I won't say much, but you are also guilty of this, starting a conversation with out proper explanation and defending what you started this has happened more than 7 scenario both from me and some other contributors, using us to live your frustrated life hun

Well, i have no single clue what you are talking about but as far as i understood you kinda blame me about utopian's decisions. I have nothing to do with.

thanks @eurogee. Well i love utopian but where my anger always gets to rage is seeing the contributors as suckers , fraud and money grabbers. I took my very time to check all accounts, details of all utopian administration but all i see are those that are nothing, that never made it in steemit, that never contributed positively in steem blockchain making the loudest noise while those brain ones are even taking it cool and Giving full respect to contributors.

Without sponsors there will be no utopian as for now (future always exist), without contributors there will be no utopian and without contributors there will be no sponsors even. All boils down to contributors drives utopian community at large. Why cant moderators and others stop looking down at contributors. The worst is, many of those contributors are not even your mate in all respect. They can feed utopian community atlarge just they love doing what they love to do best. Utopian stop calling your contributors gold diggers. The other time one mod called a contributors work NONSENSE. (what an insult to someone that pays you?)
Yes contributors pays you , without contributors you will never earn 0.5 steem.

I dont want to go into cases of mods abused by those that feel have utopian in their hand and controls it as they like. (an open source project but closed for some)
@elear , Atleast i cant forget on how my judgement was handled without allowing the person to speak. ( you know what? Those involved just show how primitive and undeveloped they are. Learn from you mistake and pray never to make the same mistake at first)

On rule issues, I always wonder on how contributors keep making rule for utopian, because that what it entails. Utopian never made a single rule, we all know, they rushed to rules with intention of blocking contributors from getting rewards. Pls no normal enlightend community behaves that way. It only exist in a tirant community.

Please utopian sponsors, i think its time utopian have fully independent contributors community as well. Its really urgent and so needed.

Those at the top of the affair, remember there exist no law of innertia in this steem blockchain.
Thanks.

to be frank sire, you have been one of those , i remembered you rejecting numerous contributions for no reasons, justify you self if you can, i think that was the reason you got suspended kettle calling the pot black, don't be ridiculous.

wow I am happy you said this on this open community because one of the reason was having much accepted contribution than rejected contributions. so i am surprise seeing this now.

Yeah of course, you shouldn't be happy much bout that, you used to reject much contributions and you were warned, you change tactics to approve so many contributions in order to get huge weekly rewards.
wooola it backfired

I may not be contributing often again like i do before but i been trolling utopian every contributions and reading a lot gathering more experience for something like this, i can say i know more acts of most moderators with this new methods of mine.

Smiles. I enjoyed your sermon, seems like true. Laugh hard. Im happy a vote to stay went in my favour but no need taking any of their exams again. I love contributing and i think i enjoyed it more because i get more time associating with my steemit family

Well what I will say is utopian lost its vision, it was meant to be a community driven witness but now it's a utopian supervisors driven witness community. It's a shame they never think of the other side(contributors) while making their do called rules, and @elear keep been tossed around like a coin by different utopian supervisors. Such a pity. Thanks @eurogee for speaking on behalf of all contributors.

@Onos we have conferences every week where you can participate and share your feedbacks live. Supervisors are even going to be replaced by another role, the announcement will be released soon and was discussed several times.

utopian supervisors driven witness community

Making the above sentence completely irrelevant.

Thanks for your feedback. Wishing to see you during our conferences.

Actually @elear its sad to say, but utopian is company driven now, it should be a company but a community-driven platform, but whats happening is, utopian right now is getting decentralized and not a community-driven platform anymore. - @ruah

Thank you for lending a voice!

Hello @elear,,

I didn't want to say a word but I couldn't hold it anymore

I like your project and the idea behind it.
Initially, with the first 3months of inception of utopian, I can attest that you were doing good job. Though some of Utopian new strict, stringent rules and policies are due to abuse by various contributors, but the fact remains that @elear has attain a position that had put him out of reach. He can only be reached through grumps that gave him directives as feedbacks.

I could remember when @elear would listen to people, respond to suggestions and work with them. But now, it's all history. He even changed his display picture that left no difference with that his dev. Making me believe I was conversing with the right person while I was seeking a permission to go for a particular project.

I was misunderstood. He places my fate in the hands of the grumpy ones. And @elear ignored my cry even after several knock at his door. I quitted my job for utopian and all of my plans and ambitions was chattered. Utopian is being overtaken by illusions rather than the love it started with.
I was locked out like I had no face. No one listen to me. No fair hearing - treated like I came from another man's land. My earnings for the period was gone. It's all seemed to me like I was wasting my time working as a mod for utopian. I was treated like I had the intention to steal from utopian.

Working as a mod, takes away your fans and friends on steemit. You will have no time for your blog. I had to began to build from the scratch.
This is what utopian did to me. Was utopian fair about this?

I'm very sure they will have something to counter this but I don't think I will be happy with @elear if he doesn't realise this.

I have every evidence of my chats with you and the supposedly elear on discord.

This may not be proper to air but it is the right time. You will need to begin to endeavour to listen to people and not merely only what few supervisors chip in to you. This is because some of them actually give you directives to be the good boy and not how it should be.
Maybe this wouldn't have sprung up if you had attend to @eurogee's complain.

Do well to make things better.

I used to be a fan of utopian-io not cause of reward but also yea for the reward (Come for the reward, stay for the community)
I wanted to grow with it, the project. and be part of the success story, But in a twinkle of an eye everything changed, yea of course we know you can please anyone but its life don't deplease the majority, '' with great powers comes great responsibilities"

Very unfortunate. I know the egghead of the many manipulations happening at utopian-io. I know his name and I will bring him to public court at appropriate time. @elear is a kindhearted man but needs to sit up and stand like a man he is! I know the happenings today isn't him intentions. A man must be a man and act like a man!

This is aberration of highest order. Dammit!

@eurogee

LOL°°

@elear keep been tossed around like a coin by different utopian supervisors.

For those interested, this announcement should cover all of what discussed here https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@utopian-io/utopian-io-reborn-smarter-simpler-better

Actuality I saw this coming right from the start, even when utopian came into existence. As the first utopian moderator before been removed without any reason but racist and decision of some mod who are into competition of meeting one another, they are really killing utopian bit by bit. @elear It is time for you to make the right decision and stop allow them to destroy what you build.

@valchiz making such statements without any kind of provable scenario is kind of extreme. Our moderators come from the most disparate countries, religions, mindsets and political views. We are a community of international people which are being selected by simply their will and skills to help reviewing and improving the platform. No one ever has ever racist approach and in the rare few cases where different opinions caused issues, Utopian has always reacted proactively.

If you have had any of these serious issues, please get in touch with, reporting the moderator and a provable scenario. I will personally react accordingly.

Thanks for your feedback.

There are proofs and I'm one of them.
I just replied to one of your comments.

Back then, Utopian-io used to be a community driven witness, but now its like everything is becoming centralized, wherea company shows its supremacy to workers, i have seen a lot of injustice from moderators but i just complain and forget, It hurts, but its Internet we smile and pretend everything is fine

You are a true ambassador.. Utopian is being manipulated even the coordinator @elear is being pushed to do things i never imagined. I hope they turn around good and favour people. Awesome post boss...

Thank you for lending a voice.

@eurogee

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