I can't even imagine how their life is on a daily basis.
I remember receiving help from local Javanese people in Jakarta when I got stranded for a bit. They had nothing and yet, did everything to help me.
As for the curry, I probably would have been more comfortable just eating it without knowing LOL.
Personally, we're slowly moving towards fruitarianism, which is possibly even more of a Western Luxury diet. Although not here...Very hard to get good fruit here :(
Even harder to get enough fruit in the jungle in dry season.... well nigh impossible without cash money or steady arable land with water. Being a frutarian is, as you say, even more of a western luxury diet. Thanks for "getting it". x
Yes, the jungle would be hard. However, not impossible. There should be some crops that grow even in the worst possible circumstances. The cactus in the desert proves that.
I met this woman once and had the honor to spend a full day with her. She moved to Ireland and bought a piece of land that was too dry one moment and too wet the other. Even grass didn't grow on it. The neighbors and her friends and family told her she was crazy to think of ever growing anything on it. Well, she proved them wrong. She built a permaculture farm and within 2 years, it was thriving. Now, of course, her circumstances were different. But nevertheless, I will always remember her words: There's no land where one can't grow food.
That being said, now I feel challenged to figure out if some growing wouldn't be possible there too. I'm thinking more towards hydroponics...But OK, I'm getting ahead of myself maybe.
Something to sleep on...
Agreed but assumes a level of personal safety, skills & access to knowledge. Displaced people are eking out an existence in an unfamiliar, hostile environment. It IS possible but takes so much time to teach & show people with whom you dont share a language, who have little access to information & have had limited, if any, education. Explaining composting last week to young people who really dont grasp things like soil acidity, bacterial processes etc? It goes on & like I said... permaculture theory, vegan etc mostly assumes first world privilege.
Of course, I totally agree with you that the above are assuming first world privilege. However, Permaculture is basically already happening all over the place, if we let it. 'Teaching' permaculture here in Ireland, for instance, is pretty much bringing people back to the way it always was in the past but what they 'unlearned, or broke/forced away from due to the 'cultivation' of crops. Over the years, this has done more harm than good, since planting the same plants in rows and patches has now depleted the soil from its minerals.
In the jungle there would still be more of a symbiotic relationship between plants and trees. The way it's supposed to be.
But of course, I understand, the situation for these people is so much different, since they're merely in survivor mode. But like you said: it's not impossible (I know, I'm stubborn ;)
Im stubborn enough to be teaching them personally, cos I beloeve it is possible & required. Huge persinal commitment but coming up against the first world privilege issues a lot. Just wanted to highlight that in this post. 😊🌿🌷
The point is really that it's a luxurious, privileged position to have the choice - that choice is not one open to indigenous or displaced refugee people. Declining hospitality is rude, IMHO, & the FEELING we give another person who has given their all for us from a sincere heart is paramount over what's for lunch. Lucky you have options to choose - the mangoes WERE divine but only available like that for a month or so.
I would probably fake it if I had to and fast if necessary. Since we have not digested meat in over 30 years we would be ill....referring to my husband and I.
The point of the article is you have the choice. Others don't. Your body would adjust over time if your circumstances mandated it. Lucky you don't have to do that right now. 😊🌿
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I have a meeting to move it fwd today. "Raise a monitor lizard" is sorta like raising a crocodile... and they grow HUGE!! Gonna need one hell of a coop! You think you got issues with chickens... LOL.
I completely understand what you are saying. As a vegetarian, I feel fortunate to have a choice but I am fully aware that in certain situations I must be gracious and eat what I am given. A lot of people couldn't even conceive of all of the choice we have. There's a lot of people that simply eat to live.
We've been trying to raise as much of our own food as possible and this has involved becoming more open to food we might not have eaten before. I think my appreciation and respect for food as sustenance has evolved dramatically through this process.
My husband who loves meat has had to eat more vegetarian in the past few years because of our goal to eat from our own land. If he does not hunt, or raise some animals for meat, then there isn't meat.
It was incredibly thoughtful for your hosts to purchase vegetables for you, such generosity, very humbling and touching to read this - and that plate of mangoes - wow!
That was very brave that you did made an effort to try out the curry. Frankly I would have never tried also and stuck to the greens, I know that would be very rude but it would just not go down in me. But it's the luxury that we have to make choices. For these people they do not have much choices and they are making the most of the available resources. So nice to keep learning about the Karen community more and more through your blogs
This looks like my kind of lunch yummy
I can't even imagine how their life is on a daily basis.
I remember receiving help from local Javanese people in Jakarta when I got stranded for a bit. They had nothing and yet, did everything to help me.
As for the curry, I probably would have been more comfortable just eating it without knowing LOL.
Personally, we're slowly moving towards fruitarianism, which is possibly even more of a Western Luxury diet. Although not here...Very hard to get good fruit here :(
Even harder to get enough fruit in the jungle in dry season.... well nigh impossible without cash money or steady arable land with water. Being a frutarian is, as you say, even more of a western luxury diet. Thanks for "getting it". x
Yes, the jungle would be hard. However, not impossible. There should be some crops that grow even in the worst possible circumstances. The cactus in the desert proves that.
I met this woman once and had the honor to spend a full day with her. She moved to Ireland and bought a piece of land that was too dry one moment and too wet the other. Even grass didn't grow on it. The neighbors and her friends and family told her she was crazy to think of ever growing anything on it. Well, she proved them wrong. She built a permaculture farm and within 2 years, it was thriving. Now, of course, her circumstances were different. But nevertheless, I will always remember her words: There's no land where one can't grow food.
That being said, now I feel challenged to figure out if some growing wouldn't be possible there too. I'm thinking more towards hydroponics...But OK, I'm getting ahead of myself maybe.
Something to sleep on...
Agreed but assumes a level of personal safety, skills & access to knowledge. Displaced people are eking out an existence in an unfamiliar, hostile environment. It IS possible but takes so much time to teach & show people with whom you dont share a language, who have little access to information & have had limited, if any, education. Explaining composting last week to young people who really dont grasp things like soil acidity, bacterial processes etc? It goes on & like I said... permaculture theory, vegan etc mostly assumes first world privilege.
Of course, I totally agree with you that the above are assuming first world privilege. However, Permaculture is basically already happening all over the place, if we let it. 'Teaching' permaculture here in Ireland, for instance, is pretty much bringing people back to the way it always was in the past but what they 'unlearned, or broke/forced away from due to the 'cultivation' of crops. Over the years, this has done more harm than good, since planting the same plants in rows and patches has now depleted the soil from its minerals.
In the jungle there would still be more of a symbiotic relationship between plants and trees. The way it's supposed to be.
But of course, I understand, the situation for these people is so much different, since they're merely in survivor mode. But like you said: it's not impossible (I know, I'm stubborn ;)
Im stubborn enough to be teaching them personally, cos I beloeve it is possible & required. Huge persinal commitment but coming up against the first world privilege issues a lot. Just wanted to highlight that in this post. 😊🌿🌷
Of course, I understand :)
LOve the symbiotic emojis... 😊🌿🌷
the mangos look amazing... what a situation.
Since we never eat meat we would have to pass on that part.
The point is really that it's a luxurious, privileged position to have the choice - that choice is not one open to indigenous or displaced refugee people. Declining hospitality is rude, IMHO, & the FEELING we give another person who has given their all for us from a sincere heart is paramount over what's for lunch. Lucky you have options to choose - the mangoes WERE divine but only available like that for a month or so.
I would probably fake it if I had to and fast if necessary. Since we have not digested meat in over 30 years we would be ill....referring to my husband and I.
The point of the article is you have the choice. Others don't. Your body would adjust over time if your circumstances mandated it. Lucky you don't have to do that right now. 😊🌿
You are right, great point... I see what you are saying now, thanks.
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Waiting for your fundraiser :) I just had a post do strangely well for a rant about a chicken coop. It's going into the pot. That curry sounds really yummy. I may have to raise me a big monitor lizard...
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I have a meeting to move it fwd today. "Raise a monitor lizard" is sorta like raising a crocodile... and they grow HUGE!! Gonna need one hell of a coop! You think you got issues with chickens... LOL.
I once had a savanna monitor lizard and an Argentine tegu. Not for meat though, just as pets. I used to be into weird stuff like that lol
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I completely understand what you are saying. As a vegetarian, I feel fortunate to have a choice but I am fully aware that in certain situations I must be gracious and eat what I am given. A lot of people couldn't even conceive of all of the choice we have. There's a lot of people that simply eat to live.
We've been trying to raise as much of our own food as possible and this has involved becoming more open to food we might not have eaten before. I think my appreciation and respect for food as sustenance has evolved dramatically through this process.
My husband who loves meat has had to eat more vegetarian in the past few years because of our goal to eat from our own land. If he does not hunt, or raise some animals for meat, then there isn't meat.
It was incredibly thoughtful for your hosts to purchase vegetables for you, such generosity, very humbling and touching to read this - and that plate of mangoes - wow!
That was very brave that you did made an effort to try out the curry. Frankly I would have never tried also and stuck to the greens, I know that would be very rude but it would just not go down in me. But it's the luxury that we have to make choices. For these people they do not have much choices and they are making the most of the available resources. So nice to keep learning about the Karen community more and more through your blogs