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RE: Korean Society Is In The Classroom: The School As A Factory

in #writing6 years ago

BIG mistake. Kid's are not small adults, they are kids. They don't have logic, they don't understand this world, they do waht they feel good to do. Yelling is good way to make them stop talking, but better would be exclude those students from group(it's hard to do, and it takes huge work).

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I think the person is referring specifically to handling 'problem' behavior by separating a student from a friend, like switching seats, or 'time out' in the hallway or whatever.

oh lol i hated those, they locked me alone in a room a few times

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stop making haikus out of your trauma, then

stop making haikus out of your trauma, then

best comeback ever lol

oh lol i hated those, they locked me alone in a room a few times

wtf.

great story behind that actually. I wasn't the first, but I made sure I was the last. I stacked a bunch of stuff in front of the door and got in the way of it opening, they couldn't tell what was going on so they didn't try to force it open. Eventually I fell asleep, and they kept waking me up and bringing new people to try to talk me into coming out. I didn't come out until school was over for the day, I didn't want to go to gym or whatever class it was lmao. Last I remember the teacher that locked me in there got fired. After that they would just do stuff like suspend me for anything any everything

Not even the worst part of my elementary school. At least I won lol

Not even dignified enough to throw yah into detention, but willing to give the same punishment.

they didnt even have detention at that point, it was elementary school

It might as well be called that, literally shaming kids instead of giving them the agency they deserve to know why its wrong.

They don't have logic

yes they do. its just not well developed.

they don't understand this world

they certainly understand their world

they do waht they feel good to do.

and sometimes this means doing the opposite of feeling good.

ive raised my voice plenty of times. i hate doing this. Korean students are conditioned to respond to yelling as its the primary stimuli used by teachers to enforce their authority over the class. I hate this and, frankly, for a teacher to rely on that tactic speaks volumes about their capacity to 'lead' the class.

Separating students is another method.

But the best discipline measure of all is engaging the students in the learning process. Even better is motivating them to take charge of their own learning. In my post, I tried to explain the structural and political barriers in place that prevent students from doing that.

I went to a highschool that was based on having you take control of your own learning. It doesn't always work out in isolation though. Too many people (teachers, corporations, etc) actively acting against it

whats your conclusion on your schools efficacy? what worked for you?

well there were a lot of problems. Some students couldn't work well in other schools, but nobody could find a way to motivate them to learn. ("Regular" school ruined learning for them, in their mind there was no way it could be fun.) After some changes to the structure, the teachers were giving up on some (or even all) of the students. Part of the problem was that the tools we were using were absolute trash. (the free tools they could have used were better, but if the school isnt paying tons of money for it, its not learning. Everyone got an ipad that they almost never used lmao)

I just ignored the teachers and learned completely on my own the majority of the time. I couldnt ask for help for anything but writing, because I was already more advanced than most of them smh. It went far better than traditional school. I had a few classes in traditional school for high school. The main difference is that the traditional school doesn't care whether or not you understand what you are doing, and mine was based on understanding it. So I now actually have what I would consider the basis of an education, while most other people just had their time wasted

i wrote that while playing csgo so idk if it makes sense lmao

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