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RE: Drug Use And Human Rights

in #writing7 years ago

Bullshit! Epidemic? Because people's choices are endemic. Then you go about "the news can't scare you shitless into how bad this epidemic really is" fear mongering. Shut the fuck up, if you cannot own your actions and use your "recovered" status to push fear mongering you're what's wrong with the world, not the "epidemic". Tying in your propaganda fear mongering into a post about basic human rights is despicable.

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Who said I can't own my own actions? Personal responsibility is a huge aspect of recovery. I'm not blaming anyone but myself for my drug abuse.

I did, I said that you cannot own your actions.

The opiate epidemic is getting out of control.

Cannot own your actions, it's an epidemic and it's the problem.

the news can't articulate how widespread and devastating it really is

Here it is ONCE MORE, and lets blame the news.

the drug war is only making things worse.

And things, once more get the blame.

Shut The Fuck Up.

End of thread :))

Shut the fuck up :P

Morning @baah ... best get to that coffee machine old chum!

I might be on my man period, so steer clear of my wrath.

I was never implying the news did something wrong, only that you can't understand how widespread it is unless you're a part of it. That's why I said the news CAN'T articulate the issue not that they're refusing to. Yes the drug war only makes the drugs more dangerous and profitable, and it brings violence into already sensitive situations. I really don't understand what you're trying to say or what you're upset about.

You weren't implying?

the news can't articulate how widespread and devastating it really is

Why do you need to be part of it to understand how wide spread it is? That's about as dumb as it gets, as if when you're emerged into something you can truly see how widespread it is, and even more so than someone that is a journalist and has a vested interest to uncovering such things, or more so in the case of uncovering would be just being overwhelmed by the obviousness of the situation.

What don't you understand about blaming your choices on an epidemic? Or painting people's choices as endemic. Or that you're fear mongering an issue of personal choice, as OUT OF CONTROL.

What exactly is your point? I don't get what you are arguing against

Bullshit! Epidemic? Because people's choices are endemic. Then you go about "the news can't scare you shitless into how bad this epidemic really is" fear mongering. Shut the fuck up, if you cannot own your actions and use your "recovered" status to push fear mongering you're what's wrong with the world, not the "epidemic". Tying in your propaganda fear mongering into a post about basic human rights is despicable.

So are you saying that he shouldn't make the epidemic look worse than it is, because it was his fault he got addicted?? Maybe I'm retarded (definite possibility), but I really have no clue what you mean.

He claims unless you're an addict you have no way to assess the scale and reach of this "epidemic", that people cannot observe and draw the same conclusions from the sidelines, they need to have a troop of addicts that they hang out with to realize how large opiate dependence is, that is his premise, that to tru/really see how big this epidemic is you have to be a user, and then he implies certain responsibility over representing it to the media for not being able to articulate how big it really is, then he closes it by saying that the drug war isn't helping this epidemic.

If you read his comment and excuse the fact that people's choices aren't endemic, and say people's choices are comparable to a disease, then you are what's wrong with the world, even if it sounds like it's conveying a truth: "In my experience, the news and the drug war aren't helping the opiate epidemic."

First he is replying to a post about drug use and human rights that concludes that fucking with people for the choices they make that are not harming anyone is disgraceful, but 1420 here is saying that people's choices are a problem, that they are suffering from a disease, he articulates how the fear mongering machine that is the propaganda mouthpiece of the state, the MSM, has no chance at articulating what he is saying: EPIDEMIC. This is under a post pointing out the immorality of imposing your will onto others, and that is the sentiment he was spewing with his bullshit: the msm cannot do anything about it, as if the msm is responsible for people's choices. He went as far as to say that the drug war isn't helping, after he remarked that the news cannot scare you into the actual proportions of this epidemic. The drug war isn't helping, way to tie into the post. What are we to conclude from his statement? That he believes people's choices are an epidemic, that the media cannot scare you into how grand and big this life of glam is, and that the drug war cannot help..

This is how the post concludes if you somehow missed this crucial part:

Trying to impose heavy costs on other human beings in order to try and protect them from their own life choices has certainly caused quite the violent mess over the years. Many drug users engage in an act that we might not personally agree with, but they are often doing something that hurts nobody other than themselves.

Taking individual drug users who are not harming anyone other than themselves, and then turning them into criminals or even worse killing them, is absolutely disgraceful.

Fear mongering about people's personal choices is disgraceful. Their choice isn't a disease, it's not an epidemic, it's not a "problem", it's their choice and it not harming anyone other than themselves.

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