Walkwithme: Great views, a birthday wish and a bit of civilization (Thursday Oslo forest hike - part 3/3)

in #walkwithme6 years ago (edited)

This is the continuation of my two previous posts; part 1 and part 2.

My last part of the hike went over some hills; Lille Haukåsen, Haukåsen and Puttåsen - some uphills and downhills, and some views on the way. My mother wrote me an email asking if I had any birthday wishes. She often does, and I usually respond with something silly like "world peace", "snow", "nice children". I don't need much, if I need something I buy it myself, that's usually better than having her to buy something and send it. However, there is one thing I'd like to do that I can't do properly with my new Huawei phone - zoom! Check my attempts below. A proper camera with a bigger lens and proper optics would be nice to have, and I believe she has more competence than me when it comes to cameras. Ah, I also got critically low on battery, my phone went black just as I got back to the civilization.

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Despite trying to take the shortest way home, I went through quite some different roads on the trip - some car roads like this (for maintenance to the radar facility at Haukåsen - I skipped going to the top) ...

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... some bigger hiking paths like this, with planks over the wet parts ...

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... and yet other places there were no paths at all. Tried to do one shortcut through the forest (to bypass the top of Haukåsen - though, it probably wasn't a good idea, I would probably have gotten faster by following the paths), another place I choose to follow what looked like a big and popular path going in my direction instead of going a detour. The "big and popular path" was neither on OpenStreetMaps or the government-issued map. Big mistake, in the Oslo forest the rule of thumb is that if a path isn't plotted in any of those two map sources, it doesn't exist. It's probably used for picking berries or something like that ... so the more I followed the path the more narrow it got, eventually it disappeared completely.

Here is some more view:

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The best view, though in another direction - this time to the north, towards Groruddalen:

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I ran down the hills, trying to get home before my cellphone batterty would run out ...

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Civilization ...

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I don't really like this kind of civilization

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There are quite many muslims living in the Furuset area.

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The Bait-un-Nasr Mosque is quite huge. It doesn't look much idyllic to have it that close to the highway. The Ahmadiyya movement is, as far as I've understood, not considered to be a "real" islamic movement by most other muslims. Whatever, religion is not my cup of tea.

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I think this is a horrible place ... though, on this poster it says (almost unreadable) the bridge constructions have gotten a prize for excellence in concrete architecture.

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The big fence to protect the bike road from noise and pollution from the highway makes it look even less attractive to me, at least in this weather. I strongly prefer to bike on alternative roads away from the highways rather than on dedicated bike roads going parallell and directly by the highways.

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That's all. My phone powered off, I ate some fast food (I was surprisingly not that much hungry and thirsty - I had been hiking for several hours without bringing any water or snacks with me) and took a bus home (rather than having to walk for yet half an hour).

Well, it was a bit bizarre on the place I was eating there was a control by the police and Labour Inspection Authority. Apparently, to fight black work (tax evasion) the restaurant workers are supposed to register their hours in a physical government-issued book, and everything should be in order, full birth date should be filled out at every line in the book. The book was very worn out and filthy, and from what I heard from the discussions it wasn't properly filled out, so he would get a fine, probably around 15 kNOK (why did they have those discussion in public at all? that also doesn't make sense to me). What else ... the boss had many excuses for having such a filthy book (why should it matter if the book is filthy or not? That also doesn't make sense to me), he had allegedly tried to order a new book several times without success, the other thing he said that was even more unbelievable was that it got in this condition due to a mass fighting involving some 40 persons. That's pretty amazing in Norway, but this is the east side of Oslo, it can be a bit rough here. I must say I had quite much sympathy for the restaurant boss, it's pretty hard to adhere to all the regulations. I also wonder a bit, there seems to be some kind of discrimination here towards certain sectors of commerce, I've never had to fill in any such forms in any of the jobs I've had. The next thing, it appeared the "competing" restaurant next door didn't have such a book at all - and then it was also revealed that the same person was the boss at both the places. After that, the police and the boss moved over to the next door restaurant, so I couldn't eavesdrop any more.

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Are people allowed to build a hut in the middle of the forest like that in Norway? Or is it just some sort of temporary mid way place to take a rest during your walk?

Generally, no, not at all. Anyone is allowed to stay in the same place for up to three days in the wilderness (regardless of the ownership of the land, this applies to all Norway), but after those three days the place should be evacuated and look like when you arrived.

In the Oslo forests, no new permanent buildings are allowed (only maintenance of old buildings). The rules are super-strict, and they actually made it into a state law - if there ever exists such a thing as a beautiful political handicraft, this must be it - for someone to create new buildings (and hence privatize the commons) they would have to bribe both the local politicians and the national politicians, and they would also have to get the law modified. I think it's a general democratic problem, if it's up to a handful of politicians or bureaucrats to give a permit for building, sooner or later someone will get elected into office that has a friend that wants to build somewhere, and the permit is given - it's a quite irreversible thing - it usually takes just some hours and one signature to privatize the commons while it's very hard to unprivatize it. Hence common land is bound to slowly be privatized.

I guess this shack was made by some school or kinder garden, probably they have gotten a permit for it, and probably it's allowable since it's not a permanent structure and because it's not considered to be privatization (anyone can utilize the structure). Or, maybe, eventually someone has just thrown it up without permission. One thing is what's legal, another thing is what one can get away with.

I agree with you tobixen, it is a no nothing rather ugly bridge. Lovely countryside where you hiked.

Nice place!

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