Government vs Governance
Recent discussions with my boy @burntoblog have opened the door to new thoughts on the topics of Government vs Governance, Republicanism, and the Law. Some time ago, back in the farcebook days, I was told to look into the topic of Natural Law.
I am now starting to explore all this, especially since it applies more directly to me in the EOS space. Have I mentioned that I'm really excited about this?! The notion of a voluntary, self governing society is kinda the dream of every voluntaryist.
Back to the topic:
Government:
The governing body of a nation, state, or community.
Governance:
The action or manner of governing.
(Both definitions from Google)
So the people that govern are the government, and the system by which they govern is the governance.
By these definitions, folks familiar with voluntaryism will notice quickly that governance is in fact necessary to society. As well as the fact that our orderly adherence to a voluntary system of governance makes each individual his own government.
The question I'll attempt to delve into later is whether governance should be centralized, as we see that government is completely decentralized. Til then, thanks for reading. I appreciate all the discussion I can get my thumbs on.
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Nate
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The difference between government and governance is that government is above the law and protected by double standards. The law is not impartial between those in it and those who are not. That is what makes a ruler a ruler after all. We'll always have leaders, rules, and governance. The key is that the people involved are all equal under the law, and the leaders are being followed voluntarily. They can also be replaced if they become tyrannical.
I could NOT agree more. Well said.
Hey man, how have you been?
Very good, thanks! I'm driving forward towards my goals slowly but surely. I'll sit for the Physical Security Professional board certification exam before the end of the year. Once that is done, I have other plans afterwards too of course. It never ends. There's always something more to be accomplished! How are you? What have you been up to lately?
Very nice! That sounds like a big piece of progress in and of itself!
I'm making small steps. Just now added a second card to my miner. About to list a small trailer for sale, and I'm gathering information for the garden. A friend just showed me a site where I can allow a company to dump wood chips at my property that they would otherwise have to pay to dump at a dump. Win/win.
Go free market, go!
How long has it taken you to work on the certification?
The PSP has taken 3+ years now to slowly get through the seven books worth of material. I didn't work on it full time. I need that qualification though to finish a book on residential security.
What coin are you mining if you want to say?
Free wood is awesome. If I had the land I wanted right now already, I would be getting tree services to dump the clippings and logs for free too. They often have a hard time getting rid of the stuff. I briefly worked as a tree climber and remember well how we'd have to constantly negotiate and search for new places to leave the debris, etc.
How much land do you have?
Mining ethereum right now. I think I'm about to upgrade my other PC and set it up for Monero as well. It's a bit less profitable and I would like to try it out because of its privacy functionality.
We have live on half an acre. It's not much, but we're working towards having it sustain us more.
There's clear that almost all governments around the world are not doing too much good to their countries and that some of the inhabitants might have better ideas and law proposals to make a country "great again", but I believe it is pretty hard to "decentralize" the governance. Look at Steem: it is decentralized, but far from perfect. It is still in the hands of the human behavior and that changes according to life situations and positions.
I like where this is going.
EOS is decentralized as well, being another DPoS system. The governance there is not decentalized. It is a single contract that is signed by each individual.
Now, it can also be altered by any members of the community if one of the amendments is found to be bad.
Steem is decentralised but this is not the reason for its problems. The reason is the lack of competition. As soon as we see other alternatives that are open and censorship resistance steem will have to evolve or die.
I counted maybe three or four social constructs within and including the constitution.
Not sure of all the constructs in the economic system, (if any) of EOS.
Social constructs within the tangible or non-tangible capital formation mechanisms would need to be analyzed.
My shot in the dark estimate is there is probably seven to eight social constructs built in to the system at the moment.
Several areas of possible faction formations to arise.
Will be interesting to see how it goes, best wishes.
Agreed. What are social constructs though? And what examples are you finding? Social constructs vs what? Natural constructs?
Constructs where a group has to decide what something is 'supposed' to do.
These run into problems of social objectivity.
(If it has t!ts, tires, or social constructs, it's going to give you trouble ;)
Ahh, you're talking about ethics!
Ethics vs morality is one of my favorites! I agree that ethics are a slippery slope, but with careful attention, they can definitely be in line with objective morality.
I guess that reveals the main question. Is it good, or even ethical, for a social construct to govern?
I'm not gonna say it's a good thing.
But I'm definitely gonna say it's not necessarily a bad thing. I've been listening a lot to Jeff Deist's podcast, Mises Weekends. He's the president of the Mises Institute. He talks a lot about decentralized government like the Swiss model due to the fact that different people/cultures shouldn't be governing each other. If someone in "power" doesn't know what's good for you, that implies a different social need, does it not? In a voluntary system of governance, theres definitely room for different folks (individual or collective) to have varrying systems of governance. So as long as the social constructs are not immoral, I'd say there's some wiggle room in ethical allowances.
Excellent information.
---If someone in "power" doesn't know what's good for you, that implies a different social need, does it not?---
Should anyone be governing you?
Who is the only one that knows what's good for you? To invest authority outside of individual sovereignty becomes less voluntary by the very action, does it not? When a system is designed to produce less voluntary options than more voluntary options, wouldn't that be a design flaw? (this is the problem I am seeing in collectivist governing models)
So what I have been doing is looking at models and figuring out about how many social constructs there are, and assuming for each one there is a degree of voluntary options that are eliminated(per individual). The more social constructs, the fewer degrees of freedom, basically is what I am seeing.
That sounds like a really good approach!
What constructs did you notice in the EOS constitution?
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