STEEM Tribe Tags : Why not using them could Cost you.
I still see many posts out there without the use of STEEM Tribe tags. I’m going to explain to you by example why you are losing out if you are one of these posters and not using at least one tag.
Before I go into specifics, some appear to be abusing the tags. Yes, they are great but we should still be able to figure out what your post is about.
I too slipped into this ‘bad habit’ for a couple of posts before I read @abh12345’s post about this very topic. It’s hard to be humble but a kick up the arse can be a good thing sometimes and I now have my own formula for Tribe tags.
Take the latest post I produced yesterday which has a main topic of Golf.
The tags for this post are: #golf #sportstalk #palnet #busy #creativecoin
The main tag for ALL my posts going forward will be directly what the topic is about. #sportstalk is the sports tribe and golf is a sport; no contest with this one.
#palnet is a general tribe which can be used for any type of content. I use #palnet for ALL of my content, having staked 100% of the airdrop.
#busy is simply present so that I can get a vote from #busy. No big secret about this one, though you need to use their dApp at www.busy.org to qualify.
#creativecoin is the one that could be questionable. My post is relating to personal experience and tells a story, straight out of my head.
I did question @dereangedvisions, a moderator on the CreativeCoin Discord channel and he informed me that content of this type does fall under the #creativecoin category.
Seeing that @dereangedvisions upvoted it, well I think that can be taken as an OK.
However, can I ask where is the line drawn? If I walk down the street and tell a story about what happened, it may make for boring reading.
Is that suitable too? Though it technically is the same, eg.. a story that came out of my brain it would be as dull as dishwater.
How about this post. Could it be perceived as 'non-fiction creative content?'
That is one of the CCC categories but I feel #steemleo fits it better, and so have used that one. There are so many grey areas, and I think many of us would like more clarification.
The benefits of using these tags, of course, are the potential rewards. As I mentioned above, let's look at this by example.
STEEM current reward is $8.34 and with the current price of STEEM being at $0.23 that will give me an approximate reward of 35 STEEM. After curation is removed we are looking at 26 STEEM (75/25 split).
Now let’s see what value those THREE tribes can add to this.
SportsTalk current reward is 8924 SPORTS which at the current sell price equates to 26.7 STEEM After curation is removed (50%) we are looking at 13 STEEM (rounded down)
PALNet current reward is 6.38 PAL which at the current sell price equates to 2.5 STEEM After curation is removed (50%) we are looking at 1.5 STEEM (rounded down)
CreativeCoin current reward is 327 CCC which at the current sell price equates to 14 STEEM After curation is removed (50%) we are looking at 7 STEEM (rounded down)
It can be seen that SportsTalk tokens reward rather well right now, or maybe I have just been fortunate. The facts are that by simply using the tags, my potential rewards have increased from 26 STEEM to 47.5 STEEM.
Not too far from doubling is it? Can you now see why you should use Tribe tags?
With those facts out of the way, I will profess to only use tags that I have a stake in. If you are going to use them, for god sake do the decent thing and give something back by doing the same.
By staking them you are doing what STEEM Power is to STEEM. Having a stake in each of the ones you are going to use makes sense to me.
There are only so many I can use, and those are the ones I will continue to hold and add to my stake. Make sure you choose yours wisely and are pertinent to your writing topics and style.
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Okay, so this is probably a silly question but what exactly are the tribe tags? There are so many tags out there... Good information @slobberchips, thanks for your help :)
Hi... most are explained here.
Take time to have a look at the ones your are interested in..steem-engine.com is the link for the tokens and you can check your wallet here. You will have some.
I'm finding it all a bit overwhelming to be honest. The creative coin one is a little disappointing. I'd much prefer that it was kept to content relating to more obviously creative things. I've seen it on a whole load of posts which, as far as I can see, have nothing to do with creativity.
I wrote one yesterday about a piece of handmade glass and ended up with a 2% vote worth 0.00 from cn-ccc. Is that related to creative coin? No idea.
So, as I say, for me it's all a bit too much.
Oh yeah. The day before yesterday I got air dropped some God coins and the following day I got air dropped dporn coins. No rhyme or reason in it all. 😂
Made me laugh though.
This is one of the more interesting ones for me. The fiction writing I do, be it good or bad certainly qualifies and some guidelines have been produced but as I mentioned.. where is the line?
Yeah. Fiction is definitely "in" I feel but in terms of writing a personal story I agree, where is the line? I could put it on any number of my posts if just writing about your life qualifies. But I would prefer it takes a bit more than that.
My life is so strange it counts as fiction most of the time, I think I'll add that creativecointag.
Noooooooo. 😂
Great post! I find that there are too many tribes or tags lately. I don't know any of them nor paid attention to rewards. I did not care much about tags so far, I gotta look more into this . Thanks!
Apart from the general content tribes like PAL, Lassecash, Neoxian the only one I am sure of tagging correctly is Sportstalk because I do know when I am talking about sports.
There are some grey areas, especially surrounding CCC. I hope things get cleared up soon.
Good post, thank you :)
I'm a bit disappointed with creative coin so far - marked absence of creativity in my feed sometimes! I've started downvoting things which have nothing to do with creativecoin. I'm not interested in reading about steem or IT in that tribe.
I agree the lines are a little blurry about creative non-fiction. I'm reading quite a lot of stuff and wondering what it is doing there. Curation is going to start coming into its own, I think.
Something I write a lot of.
Should my SteemMonsters Strategies be 'creative non-fiction'?
There's so many gaming tags I can use I probably wont use it for that.. but it technically covers that.
Steem-monsters - no, it's an article not creative non-fiction. The KS Chronicles were definitely telling a story over a period of time, I could see them published as a book or adapted to tv - maybe a comedy drama. I'm struggling a little with Tasteem, too, mainly because it has so many poorly written reviews that I wouldn't want to see cluttering up a creative feed.
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There are so many popping up all over the place. I can't keep them all straight. I don't feel like the rewards I have been getting for using the PALnet tag are that big. I maybe get about three PAL per week. Is it because I am not using the Palnet interface to post my posts?
No, that's not necessary.
Did you claim your stake,
Did you sell your stake?
Have you staked your stake!?
All these will factor in what you earn.
Confused? me too.
Yes, I have claimed and staked my stake. It is only like 750 tokens.
Just look at is as something extra, it's worth adding the content themed specific tags and generic ones to ALL your posts.
General ones: zzan, neoxian, palnet.
Such a greta post and has me thinking i need to look more into tribes and make sure I am thinking more about the tags I am using palnet is about the only one I am using now
I was using just Palnet for a while, but with CCC, it's usually that too (if the content fits it).
I dont think I have ever used CCC, maybe I should be I must look into it again
It's pretty stressful hahaha - thinking about which tags to use, which to exclude, and what content to add now there seems to be more attention to some categories of content?
I'll be an 'official' curator for CCC from next week and I'll have to think of guidelines. Fiction to me is creative, a personal story told in a conversational way maybe too, but just a general personal post would probably not be curated by me for CCC - but who knows, I'm still thinking about my guidelines. Also, since I curate from one and the same account, sometimes a CCC upvote might happen anyway :D
Anyway, enjoyable post to read!
That's the thing you see, if there are several official curators for CCC, shouldn't you all be using the same guidelines?
Would this be creative...?
I went for a walk, spotted a dog.. and it looked at me.. I took a photograph..
<<dog photograph>>
Then I walked home and I saw a cat.., it purred and I took a photo.... need I go on?
Alright.. this is extreme, but the photograph is unique and could be 'creative'. Would this be flagged because one curator thinks it is, and another would be indifferent and just ignore it?
With the #sportstalk tribe, its quite clear cut.. but CCC is not.
I'm a professional photographer so for me it's easy to distinguish between a cute snapshot and a photograph that took some effort (someone searched for a great composition and/or edited in a fitting way). But I get what you mean - it's up to each curator to 'decide' of your snapshot of a dog is creative - and maybe today it is, tomorrow it isn't.
It's not that problematic that each curator will find different definitions of what is creative. Why? Because if one curator gives you an upvote and the other 9 all upvote something 'more' creative than there's still 'Proof of Creative' in the end :-)
Also, as the creative community grows, and our VP's get drained easily from all the awesome creative art, posts that are not super 'creative' will get less and less upvotes and eventually fade out.
Just enjoy the CCC you can earn right now and consider curating with it as well :-) Creatives are an important 'motor' in this cold and technical world, and we often find it hard to make a living because our skills are always undervalued and underpaid :-)
I like discussing these things and I see it as a huge learning curve we'll al go through :D Maybe CCC is just the start of a lot of spin-off Tribes that reward a very specific kind of creativity, like 'dog photographs taken on the street' :D
Cheers!
I am drowning in some of these as well but often forget to curate more as it also presents a good opportunity to accumulate. So many to chose from will make it interesting in the future!
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Hi friend @slobberchops.
I think you are addressing an issue that could clarify doubts I have about the true utility of tribal tokens or steem-engine tokens.
Does owning these assets provide you with any additional privileges within the tribe? That is, does it give you access to any exclusive service? Or does it simply give you more voting and healing power?
I would like to define these aspects to conclude in some way if the steem-engine tokens could be categorized as "useful" or "security". How do you consider them?
All best, Piotr.
I couldn't tell you if investing in these tokens is a good idea or otherwise.
Having a stake in each is the same as SP, but you get the benefits of curation from several on your posts (if you use the tags), and author rewards (same).
I have a stake in several of the tribes now, but will probably not add to them. Like buying STEEM it is a risk.
Thanks for your comment @slobberchops
I'm also seeing those tokens as quite a risky investment ....
Let's wait and see how those tokens will behave once SMT will be launched.
Cheers
Piotr