Maybe the Tesla Truck Dream is Real?

in #technology7 years ago

Canadian grocery retailer Loblaws, has placed an order for 25 of Elon Musk's brand spanking new Tesla electric semi's.

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Credit: Inverse.com

Though the heavy transport vehicles haven't had an official price listed just yet, the major grocery chain has already paid the initial deposit on the futuristic truck fleet.

The goal is to convert their entire transport department to electric vehicles by 2030, in an effort to lower it's carbon emission footprint.

The positive impact of the move is said to be equal to taking 20 000 consumer vehicles off the road. Loblaws and Walmart have both commited to purchasing these Tesla trucks even though they're not supposed to be completed until late 2019.

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Credit: Wired Magazine

It appears Elon Musk's dream of replacing all forms of transportation with his electronic versions is in overdrive.

One thing this author is learning is that, if Elon says he's going to do something he usually delivers. I can't wait to see these bad boys on the streets!

Thanks for reading,

@goldenarms

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Wow ! Wow! Wow! @goldenarms ! I watched this on the news , those are the coolest looking trucks I have ever seen ! So futuristic !! can you imagine taking 20,000 consumer vehicles off the road , and how great that would be in controlling emissions !! Fantastic ! On top of it , truck drivers are overworked and in accidents quite often just by falling asleep at the wheel , this will definitely cut down on a high demand job ! I cant wait to see these in action here in Canada ! Think how much money these stores will save on fuel costs , which will hopefully be passed down to the consumers ! Great job , upped and resteemed !🚛🚚🚛🚚🚛🚛

To me this sounds like a publicity stunt. And I wouldn't be surprised if this supposed buyer was paid to buy.

Because electric trucks are not good for long haul. The supposed 600 mile range is a drop in the bucket for what long haul trucks do.

Where electric vehicles are currently making huge inroads is in local delivery. Where you have access to three phase power. The trucks sit overnight. The efficiencies are much higher at lower speeds. And the distances are small, well within range.

Further, batteries have problems with cold. If you are hauling long distances on icy roads, I would not want to be relying on these batteries.

From what I understand they have a range of 500 miles with a backup mega charger system that can add another 400 miles in 30 mins. So that puts the range at 900 miles whereas long haul trucks today with the extra tanks on board get an avg of 1200 before they have to stop and refuel. The savings may outwieght the slightly more limited range by far? And three phase is slow and only used in emergency when the vehicles can't find the charging stations set up to offer the newer quicker charges. Also the savings truck fleets will enjoy will save them per mile almost immediately on the road. Obviously this is just the start of this experiment but on paper everything looks pretty good so I'd say optimism is warranted. And all batteries have troubles in the cold but they already have existing technology to deal with this. We use batteries in everything here in Canada..it gets pretty cold here u may have heard..

Ummmm... your response says you missing something that is engineeringly important.

In the world of AC that we, (not the power companies) deal with comes in two flavors. Single phase and three phase.

Single phase is limited to about 60 amps to 100 amps of 220 volt supply. I think that if you turned off everything in your house, it would take about 5 days to charge up the truck. Maybe more.

Three phase is the power supply to most industrial places. The charging stations are fed from this three phase. The amount of charging that can be done is limited by the size of the wires that feed this place. After that, it is further limited by the amount of energy the battery can convert per hour.

The amount of energy that will be required to charge the 1200 kWh battery packs in a half an hour is 1200 kWh / .5 h = 2400 kW.

2400 kW / 480 V = 5,000 amps.

So, we are talking about a lot of power. We are talking about people in insulated suits doing the power feed connection.

But, since we don't use the entire battery potential, it is probably closer to 1,000 amps. (lead acid battery voltage is 12.7 V charged. 12.0 discharged, using it below that level destroys the battery, as an example.)


You don't use the battery when driving. And bad weather drivers know to never turn the car/truck off. In fact, many rig drivers will leave the rig idling all night rather than rely on the batteries to try to start it in the morning.


Where electric trucks are making huge inroads is local delivery. Volvo and Mitsubishi are creating short haul trucks and lots of companies are looking into these.

While I do agree with alot of what you just put here I honestly haven't looked too far into the science but I'm sure they have it all figured out and that Tesla has ppl alot smarter than you and I working on this to make it viable. Let's come back in 5 years and see how this plays out? Deal?

Those are the minutes of the first Tesla board meeting.

Up voted and resteemed! I think Tesla will help slow down global warming and climate change! It was 74 Degrees in November 16 2017 in Littleton Colorado. We should be getting snow ❄️ not rain 🌧

Where im at on East coast of Canada we haven't had any snow yet. I'm not complaining tho 😊 Thx for reading and resteeming bud 👊😎

I want a Tesla house instead (or Tesla house battery)

Well anything Tesla I guess

House battery and car

As long as they are free

I think the house battery's will have a huge market here in Canada! From my understanding you can have them charged up so if the power goes out during a storm u can still use your electricity. Rather than operate a loud and smelly gas generator. The savings over time and any rebates could make them realistic over time. I imagine once they're mainstream the prices of their products will come down. Thx for reading tkf. How are u feeling now my friend?

I am good GA, thank you!!

I was out in the crowd last night for Santa Parade, but of course cautious as well, protecting my incision 😂

I still have 2 weeks to go until I see my doc and hopefully soon I don't have to do the dressing anymore

Still can't bath tho, just shower but all is good 😊

I do not believe the price will come down much.
Most of the price is in the batteries. Batteries are pretty much paying for someone to dig all that toxic stuff out of the ground.

Only the inverter electronics may come down, and that is unlikely, as it is dealing with power mosfets. Which haven't changed much in the last 20 years. You really can't make them smaller and cheaper because they are sized by the power running through them.

I hate to inform you, but your desires are all hype based on propaganda.

Iron-nickel batteries are far superior to NiMH or Lithium. Especially for the environment. Iron and nickel are not toxic to the environment, and are very abundant, especially compared to lithium.
You do not need weight savings in your home. (which is the only reason to use lithium)
Plus, Iron-nickel lasts longer and is more resilient to shocks.

The vaunted Tesla power wall, is nothing more than what homesteaders have been doing for the last 40 years. A battery connected to an inverter.

We are currently, still, in a war over in Afghanistan because that is where the largest lithium deposit has just been found. So, getting a power wall is helping to keep the war going.

Wrong..Chile, Australia and China have the world's largest lithium reserves. Afghanistan wasn't even in the top 10, Infact the U.S also appears on most lists from a quick Google search. Funny you're accusing me of spreading propaganda when I'm just sharing a story from my country. You're taking about war in Afghanistan and it's supposed intentions thereof. I appreciate you stopping by my blog, it appears it inspired your to get involved. I upvoted your comment how about upvoting my post for the realestate you're taking up here 😛

Glad to see corporate Canada taking a lead in reducing their carbon foot print. They look very futuristic. Post a photo when you see them on the road!

Yeah I thought the same thing when I was watching the news. It'll be interesting to see how these hold up after some real road tests are completed. One thing I don't get is I'm pretty sure Canada doesn't have that many charge stations built yet..where will they top up? Especially in really rural areas..

And how do they stand up to the Canadian winters?

Ooh yes ofcourse!

Musk kills it again. Production is always a problem with him but he does excite people. Tesla ends up always delivering even if delayed. I have some of the stock which I am very comfortable with. I believe that we are going to see it explode into the Google/Amazon price range in the next couple years.

Here we see another industry that Musk is totally turning upside down.

Yeah I agree with your entire comment. Well said. Thx so much for checking outy post!

Great looking and performing trucks. These things will eventually take over the roads and replace diesel. The convoy mode is a real game changer as well.

Yes they do look cool. Next will be self driving fleets man, we're progressing so fast! Have u seen teslas new roadster? 0-60 in 1.9 seconds they're reporting. That'd make it the fastest production car by far

Yea things are progressing so fast!
The new Roadster looks bad ass! Its like rocket fast lol. Here is some people trying the Roadster

Thx for providing that! Really adds to my post. The electric acceleration is crazy! Too bad there's little sound. They need to work that out for me, add fake sound or something..I like to hear a rumble or the turbo sound chirping

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