Facticity (continued)

in #steemstem7 years ago (edited)

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What don't we want to know?

Well, does anybody else get the irony here?

After introducing myself I wrote one small but substantial story about the work of science, how the meaning of their own work is poorly understood by scientists who dismiss philosophy, and how it might be important for scientists, engineers, technologists (and perhaps even math geniuses) to consider the principles of coherency and cognitive psychology.

So when I challenged this community with a controversial but meaty tale about the history of epistemology and science, what was the result? Zero replies in two days. Apparently everybody already understood what I said, or they haven’t wanted to discuss it.

Instead I’ve been informed that my experience is irrelevant to the folks who live here. The very clear message (to date) is that I should take myself elsewhere to talk about the stuff that most people (everywhere!) want to avoid discussing. As if people who work on other topics are more open-minded about this stuff!

Interesting? Kinda. This is not much of a surprise to me; it’s the story of my career! Relatively few people are interested in the concept of levels of cognitive sophistication and how they apply to learning and communicating.

I came to the steemstem tag because it was represented to me as a gathering place for people who think about scientific things, and I wondered what people here think about science and critical analysis. I thought that someone might be interested in discussing what educational psychologists and educational philosophers have learned about human understanding.

In my experience science (the method) is supposed to be all about deep thinking and deep learning, and I’ve worked very hard at learning about people and things for two purposes: to generate fulfilment and social flourishing for myself, and to support others in doing that for themselves. That’s my educational commitment, here or wherever I am.

I could opine (with deep justification) about the neuropsychological sources of the motives of the people who dismissed me, but that seems like a bad idea, doesn’t it?

Anyway it’s only been two days, but if nobody here wants to deal with the principles of deep thinking, deep learning, critical thinking and practical wisdom, I can understand that.

I didn’t come here to infringe on people’s sensibilities. It just sorta happens when I express myself authentically.

Oh, well…

P.S. oh, yeah, about facticity. IMO the closest that scientists (or anybody) ever get to facts is data. A measurement is a fact (more or less; no measurement is absolutely true, of course, because every system of measurement is subject to a margin of error). Everything else is interpretation and inference.

I understand that we’d all like to believe that we know the truth about things, but if we don’t distinguish justifiable confidence from certainty about our opinions then we’re stuck with unjustified confidence.

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There might be several reasons why people didn't make any comment.

Perhaps not enough people saw the post, in the beginning its kind of hard to get noticed and receive comments, but if you remain active you will surely gain more followers and receive more interaction, especially if you write good posts.

I left you a link to the @steemstem discord in another of your post I think, did you check it?

Thanks. I remain discouraged, however...what do you think about my situation?

Yes; I was at that chat previously (I wrote back); that's where this controversy started!

I think you need to keep making posts and not let anything discourage you.

Its also important to leave good comments in other people's posts so you can little by little earn a following.

Just keep going bud!

Have you kept up with my wild ride, @dedicatedguy?

[wondering]

Hey there mate! How have you been?

I haven't seen more posts from you, but now I am checking, I see you have made some, probably I wasn't checking my feed when you did them.

I saw that the sndbox team noticed you. That's good! :)

I suppose so!

(I'm still new here...)

Thanks for talking with me, dg.

I dropped a load in reply to your query! Did you get it?

Looking forward to see what happens.

Excelsior!

Why do you equate a lack of replies as a lack of support? Was the number of views high? Because if it wasn't, then as @dedicatedguy stated, it could be that no one saw it.

Could it be possible that the title was not appealing? Or that you have not built up a community following yet? Was it possible that the writing was difficult to follow or the argument difficult to understand? Who was your target and how do you know if they saw it?

In a world of information overload, it is easy to be missed or misunderstood. If you don't get views, I would start with title and followers. If you get views without replies, then I would look at the readability and comprehension. And if you feel you have nailed all of those, I would suggest you think about who your audience is and how to best approach them.

Hope that helps!

"In a world of information overload, it is easy to be missed or misunderstood."

Sixty-three views; no replies. Does everybody understand postmodern epistemology very well already, or or they uninterested for one reason or another?

Of course I forgive you, yvesoler, for your attack on my character. I understand what you were thinking, and I believe that you meant no harm (just sharing your opinion!) but I'm naturally hurt by your broadside ad hominem accusation. Obviously, I'm not seeing any beneficial effect of that particular remark.

"Misunderstood" is the story of my life, but I believe that nobody can understand anything completely, and that my discourse is anathema to most people. I came here to learn how to ameliorate that phenomenon (if possible...).

Whatever the reasons for my failure (we can't know them for sure!) I'm disappointed in myself. I've spent my life learning stuff, not just for myself, but to support others in figuring things out, and I've found that the most important aspects of coherent thinking and social flourishing are of interest to a very small proportion of educated people, who aren't terrified of being wrong about their most precious beliefs. Others are cognitively paralyzed, stuck in their closed worlds of meanings.

Nothing personal! I'm stuck; we're all more or less stuck with our histories, and some of us are working more or less hard to dig ourselves out of our holes and into a better (more fulfilling and more flourishing, but as yet unimagineable) future.

Thank you for talking to me again. I appreciate what you've said (most of it!!)

I do appreciate all the support I can get, if someone wants to support my work, but I'm wondering who might be interested in discussing the principles of comprehension, analysis, and explanation.

Apparently steemstemites have been immunized from those conversations.

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