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RE: Today I Learned How The Price Of Steem Dollar (SBD) Is Made - You Should Know About That Too

in #steemit7 years ago

Yes I read the first one and looked at the voting. I didn’t see any justification for that downvote.

I really haven’t been following the flagging, between several well known steemians, not do I see who is getting in the crossfire.

However, I was interested to see that someone called @ned had hit your biggest downvoter hard with a downvote on one of his most popular blogs.

I hope someone has posted a blog explaining how this started.

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I guess you've noticed the cultural fight between @haejin and @bernie (I won't write his full name so he can't come here and start flagging again..).

Haejin makes a lot of posts with very accurate technical analysis about cryptocurrencies. He started at zero a few months ago and he managed to gain extremely many followers and has >10k vists on his ~5 posts per day.

Per post he makes around 100-1000 SBD which was deemed too much by some whales who started flagging his posts to reduce his payout. They called him a fraud, overvalued, a spammer and as someone who's running a cult with only idiot "fanboys" following him.

These fanboys vehemently defend him because they trust his analysis and although I don't read all his posts, I defended him as well when I see someone attacking him, because I know he is good and recently I also analyzed a sample of his predictions plus a 2nd sample to confirm the first one. Conclusion: He is really good, although of course the entire market is a bit crazy and not too hard to predict because everything goes up. Haejin is definitively not a spammer of worthless content. (<- this statement can get you flagged.)

Anyway, while defending @haejin I caught the attention of @bernie and also had an encounter with @marky mark who is a witness and bernie fanboy who didn't like (or I think didn't understand conceptually) that someone could come to the conclusion that random extreme flagging isn't a good idea and instead a system level approach would be better. I tried to outline a couple of viable solutions for the perceived problem of payouts that are too high, but instead of a discussion, @bernie came over and flagged my post into oblivion. Because of this kind of behavior I came to the conclusion, he's an idiot with mental problems. (just look at Haejins post and comment section. Bernie and his Stalinist thugs are really thorough.)

Every time this happens, I promise myself to shut up and just play nice in the future, but I honestly think @bernie and the handful of witnesses (I think bernie is one himself) might harm and destroy Steemit and the Blockchain with their erratic and non-regulated/uncontrolled behavior.

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Can you give me the link where @ned downvoted him?

Thanks for explaining what is going on.

I know lots of people - like me - are confused by the flag war between these two Steemians. It does seem there is a screw loose by @b.......... to put you in the crossfire for taking sides.

I always enjoy the posts by @h.......

What you wrote above could be a good blog, but I wonder if you have the courage to post it as a blog? I would upvote it.

I used this website https://www.davidkevork.me/steem.php to find out who hates you. Then I looked at the hater with the most power @oz..... to find out who hates him, and there I saw @dan, not @ned. Sorry for confusion on the names.

It seems to me that many ( including you both, and maybe myself too) has a very little understanding what is cooking "behind the scenes"
Just do your own little research.
Go to http://www.steemreports.com/incoming-votes-info/
and enter @h.... in the first window, for various time spans.
Then get a proof, that ~~74% of SP @h...... is holding, is delegated to to him by the same happy lucky TA review post reader @ranch.... ( who makes no posts, no comments, no curation, no ....anything.
Plane game with ...... "money", and nothing more then that?

Then ask yourself one simple question:
What underwater ties exist between @h.... and @ranch....???
WHO drain the reward pool? Who gets the rewards?

Do not answer to me. Answer to YOURSELF.

With full and proper respect to you @doodlebear and @swissclive ....

Thanks for the link. So far I was convinced that @ranch belongs to @haejin. It's just the account where he stores his SP. A move that I intend to do as well when my account starts being worth something, because risk management. When you follow haejins devlopment, you will see he had a curve and at one point when it was enough, he started to move out the surplus. Apparently, he shifted it to this ranch account to have it out of the way and now he upvotes his main account with it.

I don't see a problem with that. Others do that too.

I could give you several whales with there upvote/saving accounts and when you look at @bernies compadres who flag with him you will find plenty of zero-post accounts with millions of SP.

Overall, I find it very shady of the flaggers - who are obviously well known whales - to hide behind proxies. This @ox account for example that downvoted me is a zero post account* as well. You can't tell them something, they don't tell you what's going on.

The only one who openly says what he thinks and why he does it is @marky. That must be respected, although I don't find his insights particularly useful.

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*not zero, but last post is half a year old.

What you wrote above could be a good blog, but I wonder if you have the courage to post it as a blog?

I thought about writing something too. But I don't think I have the full picture. Maybe later when bernie cooled down a bit^^

I used this website... Then I looked at the hater with the most power @oz.....

That's a good approach. Thanks. This oz guy is a perfect example for the inexistent transparency and non-predictability of this whole matter. There are anonymous accounts with zero posts (resp. half a year old), no communication is possible, not even announcements or delf-declared rules, just x-thousand SP and then the flagging begins.

My opinion: This is Wild West style but not a sustainable approach for Social Media/Blogging platform with two(!) supercharged currencies in the background. I really hope, the witnesses will implement rules to tame this phenomenon.

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