A Question For The Steemit Community
I have been here 2-3weeks on steemit,
I came here because I was told this site is anti-censorship. I have watched a lot of people leave for getting flagged and I have been flagged a bunch. I try to ignore it and I don't flag back (trying to censor people is wrong). It is getting to the point where I am now thinking of quitting too. I don't want to quit but it is pointless to try to post stuff if idiots are going to flag me because they disagree with my opinions.
Is steemit for or against censorship?
If the community is not supporting censorship then why is nothing getting done about it? the people that flag out of disagreement of opinion do not feel bad for doing it (in fact they are proud of it) and they are not getting held accountable for it. Will the community just sit by and watch as everyone but the special snowflake leave because the sjw's are flagging anything they disagree with? when everyone is gone but the flaggers they will have nothing to do but turn on each other.
A couple people have told me I should self self-censor to avoid flagging. that is censorship if I have to self-censor to avoid getting flagged.
My main question is:
How do we stop the cunts that will go out of their way to flag all of your stuff because they disagree with someone's opinion, or should it just be accepted that this is worse with the censorship then facebook, twitter and youtube combined?
This is what I'm talking about.
@skeptic
why did you flag my post? because you disagree with my opinion?
@desmonid
because I want to exercise my power the platform has given me to suppress your shitty anti-feminist article.
@skeptic
ahh so you feel it is ok to censor people you disagree with?
Then silence from the bitch.
Simply put, Steemit is currently censored in a way ... it is by whale votes. The majority of posts are not seen or read unless they receive a whale stamp of approval.
They seem to be working towards ways to improve this moving forward.
One thing to remember is Steemit is still in beta and extremely new. I guess if people want to quit before seeing a final version even, that is up to them.
Personally, I only have time to loose at this point as I haven't invested any personal income into steemit "yet"
As to flagging, I don't think being flagged does a whole hell of a lot unless, again, it is by a whale vote.
@fat-like-buddha, my sentiments exactly. Except as of yesterday now I have time and personal income as I invested in some Steem power. With the price of steem this low I figure my odds are worth it....actually posted about it today. The odds alone make it a good gamble at worst.
When one single downvote makes a post transparent with no photos, it has a lot of effect. I understand its still beta but with the numbers of people I watch quit daily because of this crap it will not have new users when it is out of beta because word is already spreading about the flagging. I watched someone that has 50k followers on youtube leave after 2 hours on steemit because of the flagging. that's 50k new members that wont be joing now and she is going to put steemit on blast on her pod casts because of how she was treated.
I don't feel that the steemit community is doing anything about it eather. like you all are accepting it becaus its a whale flagging people.
I didn't say I accepted anything, just to be clear. I just eluded to the fact I personally will probably stick around and let Steemit grow a little bit before I jump to judgment or ship.
I have been lurking, reading and posting a little over a month now, and I think they have changed how flagging once or twice already in that time frame. It is a little bit of trial and error.
I firmly believe there needs to be either a flag option or a downvote option to hold people accountable. Implementing a system where people can't over use or abuse it would be ideal.
if not accepting it, then what can be done to stop it? waiting around while the flaggers get more steem power (to flag more) while the new members are leaving like flys because of the flagging isn't going to stop? by the time steemit is out of beta the flaggers are going to have so much more power then they do now. problem will only be worse by then.
I agree that the flagging must be reigned in somehow. I have seen where in cases of plagiarism posts have been flagged, and I agree with that. But to flag a post just because you disagree with it is narrow minded foolishness which goes against the Spirit of this Steemit community. People should not have the ability to flag until they have attained a certain number of respectability points. Certainly not until they have grown up. :-)
it is chicks with posts about how "monogamy is a lie" that are the whales that are flagging everyone. if they wernt whales their one downvote on a post with 6 upvotes wouldn't make it transparent. the girl I know that joined yesterday was dropped from 25 to 7 in less then 2 hours and she only posted 4 blogs and 2 comments.
Keep posting. Fuck the faggots!
So this why you haven't told people on Youtube your on this site? Make another account with your Youtube name cunt. Bring your subs and attack back bitch!
lol
Thanx roary, I see it as a waste now to promote this site to make others rich. doubt ill be making a new account or telling subs about it. the site wouldn't last long if we were to do on to others like they do on to us. maby if they keep demonetizing videos, but as of right now youtube does less censorship then steemit.
Don't quit just because some people don't like you or disagree its life you can't please everyone, It's what makes us stronger.
Rise above it and grow
not quitting because people disagree with me, quiting because of cencorship and no one in the community cares or they support the people flagging out of opinion. how do you rise above it when your gitting flagged constantly for no reason but someone doesn't like your opinion?
The thing with bullies and thats what it sounds like is happening to you is they only get something out of it if you react the way they want you too, deny them the satisfaction and they will get bored or explode with rage.
Both are in your favor just show some restraint and watch the implosion.
I ignored it till today, today is the first time I have mentioned im getting flagged like this. not saying anything about it did nothing but make the flaggers think they are getting away with it. basically all im hearing from everyone is "well it sucks but nothing can be done to fix it and we hope it will eventually stop". it isn't going to stop and everyone is going o leave. this place is promoted as censorship free, but has more sjw censorship then any other site because the snowflakes have been given the ability to destroy accounts.
you keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it does.
Not being censored is not the same as not being held responsible for what you say. Go ahead and call people "cunts" then prepare for the consequences of discrediting yourself. You have less credibility now. I wonder how many people 'mute' you.
who wants to listen to a potty mouth?
wow, this is the shit im talking about.
Not being censored is not the same as not being held responsible for what you say.I never said it was, are you defending the people flagging out of opinion? besides people cencoring me im ok with consequences.
Go ahead and call people "cunts" then prepare for the consequences of discrediting yourself.how is my use of an australian slag for a "person" discrediting? how are their consequences for it if your not talking about cencorship?
You have less credibility nowso people that use the word dude have no credit too? its the same thing retard.
I wonder how many people 'mute' you.I wish they would just mute me like an adult, instead they go about destroying someones account because they disagree with something they said.
who wants to listen to a potty mouth?a lot of people, not everyone is a stuck up bitch that is offended by words.
this is the fucking shit im talking about. cant back up anything with reasons just feelings.
learn something so you don't make the same mistake 2 times.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/outrageous-words-that-are-said-every-day-in-australia?utm_term=.xdy79oMmBV#.oteM786KGg
Oh come on plenty of people don't care about a potty mouth. Fuck!
that is one of the fools that flags peoples posts when they are something they disagree with. notice how they did nothing but talk about how it is deserved and stuff. they feel proud of flagging post out of opinion. its fucking bullshit.
So a post that does away with this 'revenge flagging" you are disgusted with also is a source for attack.... I think exactly what you want, is to be the victim. Congratulations, I bet you will always be successful.
lol.
are you for censoring people on steemit or not?
I am not looking for sympathy or playing victim I am pointing out a huge problem with steemit and trying to come up with a solution.
I will put anyone I see flagging people out of opinion on blast to the steemit community. it happening to me was just the moment I realized it needed to be brought up.
so fuck your victim bullshit I don't play that shit. I take responsibility for pissing people off, fuck them if they cant handle words and get so emotional that they flag something to try to censor it. would be a lot better if they posted a comment saying why im an asshole or why im wrong. trying to censor people is a bitch move.
You need to learn to troll better son. you didn't even add a meme. :/
your trolling is pathetic at best.
Hardly trolling, just seeing someone on both sides of the fence crying "poor me" on either side. You have no footing on either side. "send me money or your part of the problem" approaches are juvenile and I can watch you flounder awhile, thats not the same as trolling
lol
you just love proving me right don't you?
my comment on your other post still stands. does not matter if you said it once or 10 times, at the beginning of your post or the end of it. if you really believed the money aspect of it doesn't matter like you preach to the people that don't have a nice stack of steem like you do then you would let your actions prove it. but your actions prove your full of shit.
how are you not trying to troll coming to another post I made about the flagging problem on steemit to say im playing victim? like I said im not looking for sympathy and second of all you still haven't answered any of the questions, just dodging the facts.
how do I have no footing?
Im prity sure I made points you have no rebuttle to and all the questions I have asked you have dodged.
the shit your pulling is just like the shit the fake whale accounts pull when called out, "your just jelous" lol fucking red harring bullshit.
so, your attempts to troll are pathetic at best. maybe come back with an argument to prove me wrong? but im sure you would have done that already if you could.
I have read your other posts, your other comments. Wether It's upvote or I kill this bunny or give me money if your serious. It's someone who's a victim and blames others.
Maybe try a "should I quit steemit?" post again..... You asked no questions by the way, just asked I send you money to prove I am serious. Good luck here, I don't have to do anything for you to fail.
Yah, I figured you would dodge again.
good job proving me right some more.
it was not begging and if you actually looked at my other posts like you said you did you would see I told a person wanting to upvote another post talking about problems with steemit where I told them I wasn't posting stuff like this to get upvotes, I am trying to get information.
I hope at some point you realize how pathetic you come off as.
you might do yourself a service to learn from situations like this.
I have noticed your post was flagged by R4fken, well known steemit hater.
I am for justice and I am here with all my Steem Power to help you resist his hate downvotes and let your post be visible for steem users. Upvoted!
Yeah, I think he has a crush on me. 8D
https://steemit.com/censorship/@skeptic/i-think-r4fken-has-a-crush-on-me
Thank you very much for the upvote.