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RE: The Evil Steemit Whale Bot Conspiracy: An Elite Crypto-Agenda For Minnow Domination, OR Sound Investment Strategy For The Community's Success...?
ok, i mean i feel like this is a good explanation, but at the same time it still seems unfair that its the early adopters that stand to benefit and i can totally see why some people are pointing fingers and saying that there is a conspiracy. @rok-sivante can you really put your hand on your heart and claim that all of your posts were worthy up generating as much steem and upvoting as they have received?
I fail to see how it is relevant how @rok-sivante may feel about his own posts because others have found value in them and have rewarded the posts appropriately.
Early adopters in Bitcoin got their coins for tens of dollars. Are we calling unfair the advantage this has given the risk takers who believed in BTC? I mean, I guess you could make that argument, but I'm not sure it would hold much water.
I enjoy @rok-sivante's writing and I often upvote his work. Are all of his posts worthy of generating that much steem? I can't answer that, but I can definitely say he writes well and overall I don't think he's overcompensated on this platform.
I'm definitely not trying to be harsh, but this isn't a free money give away, it's a social network. I'm of the mind that he'd be as popular on another social network as he is here, based on the threesome story alone... Those who think he's getting over somehow should study his work and let it inspire them to improve their writing skills and to build their reputation.
Agreed. Early adopters always have an advantage. It's not fair but it's the way the world works. Nobody has come up with a better way of doing it. It is no different from if you invested $1000 in a share of Apple when it was operating out of Steve Job's garage - by now it would be worth billions, whereas if you invested $1000 dollars now it would get you a couple of shares. In this case Steemit is at least giving out mini-shares to everyone.
Some yes, some no.
But taking ego out of it, I can see why some got more and some less. And thankfully, I've had posts where the bots DIDN'T vote, for which I'm grateful.
And at the end, its a humbling blessing - one that's made me take it even more seriously about what type of content to produce. It's a high degree of accountability, and a certain pressure to live up to the higher standards - which is cool, because creating value for others is what it should be about; though also stressful at times because sometimes there is stuff I might like to write about that I don't think would be worth that much - but then the ego's gotta go out the window again, refocusing that the effort is better spent focusing on what IS of the highest value...
link please? because it doesnt look that way.
Also, ftr this is the same guy who said that the reason most authors don't make any money here is that theyre so stupid they dont know theyre stupid. just ftr... so the leave the ego at the door thing.
https://steemit.com/writing/@rok-sivante/how-neilstrauss-changed-the-game-my-life-and-impacted-millions-through-his-writing-why-this-man-deserves-a-standing-ovation-and
https://steemit.com/steemit/@rok-sivante/the-top-seven-tips-for-steemit-newbies-to-overcome-discouragement-keep-your-head-in-the-game-and-get-on-track-to-earning-top
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@rok-sivante/the-ico-of-icos-the-raw-dirty-low-down-on-ronny-boesing-s-decentralized-conglomerate-s-latest-crypto-catalyst-icoo
re: " this is the same guy who said that the reason most authors don't make any money here is that theyre so stupid they dont know theyre stupid. just ftr... so the leave the ego at the door thing."
can you please provide the direct quote and link to where this was stated?
lol the game. its worth noting that not only did you make more money than most ppl do, you did so in spite of tag spam, which is probably why you got no sweet sweet bot love.... the two top ones were when they started cracking down, then after that the UI started stripping off the extra tags.... then it stopped and that was the ICO one. I only note this because us mere mortals get flagged for that.
ill look for the article it was the one about the dunning kreiger effect though... i know you made the glib little disclaimer that "oh im not talking about you" but the point was clear, and also shitty imo.
can you please provide the direct quote and link to where this was stated?
goddamnit. im HOP today
https://steemit.com/smallpost/@andrarchy/why-your-post-isn-t-getting-any-love-the-dunning-kruger-effect
though it wouldnt be so easy to get all you guys confused if you didnt hit up the same talking points.
hmm. thanks for the head's up on the tag issue.
I wouldn't view it as spam, as kept the tags relevant to the content. though very good to know if there's been some changes to crack down on using too many tags.
that dunning kruger article also damn good. kinda got my head spinning. (a good thing, really - breaking down some ego). :-)
I think your ego-out the window approach is very sound. But I must say, in the extremely short period I've spent on Steemit, lots of content that hit trending was honestly sub-par and NOT deserving of the value it made, from a business and marketing point of view.
Since trending seems to be the be all end all to a post being visible and 'sticky', a few authors dominating it through pure SLOTH on the bot owner's side seems like an absolute failure of the system's integrity.
Thanks for replying and this post, its helped me to see a more human side to things and show that its not just about $$$
That's one of the things I love most about steemit. The draw is initially the money, but it really is so much more than that, and at the end of the day the money becomes secondary to helping others who have become your friends. Just like the whitepaper says, it is a sort of reverse crab in the bucket analogy where each crab helps push the the other up and the crabs that have made it out reach back and help to lift up those who helped them in the first place. If you can name another site where this occurs, I'm all ears, but I doubt one will be found.
YES.
I did go through my own phases of being swayed by dollar signs. But as I persisted through the discouragement of seeing some intro posts getting thousands of rewards while mine got $32 and kept refocusing on creating VALUE for the community, something shifted in my brain and I began seeing much greater possibilities for what can be created here, that is totally separate from the financial side of things.
Many people will bitch about not making money and how unfair things are. But if you dig into their post histories, you will find a very predictable pattern that such people do not understand the fundamental principle that VALUE is rewarded. nothing else.
there are essentially five types of value. you could analyze posts all day long and break down why the highly rewarded posts get what they do, based on how highly they rank in the 5 different types of value. it's not chance. it's a science.
and in the end, the finances flow to the VALUE - value that enhances users experiences, is informative, inspirational, entertaining, original, and is well-delivered. in the end, it's all about providing VALUE. ;-)
I'm leaving Steemit as soon as my account is powered down over this crap.
Right now due to the way everything works, Steemit operates like a ponzi scheme for enriching the early whales and their friends.
It also causes the entire platform to be stagnant - the same threads from the front are still there from a week ago. Due to the way vote-weighting works, only the threads that whales upvote are even seen at all.
It's completely broken and irredeemable.
your pessimism will not be missed, once you do leave. :-)
and your honest feedback IS still appreciated. pessimistic perspectives do have their value, too.
It's the same with everything though. The first people who mined bitcoin are multi-millionaires for running what at the time was a relatively low power app on their laptops.