In talks with @acidyo (one of the biggest manual curators I know) in steemit.chat. It is my understanding that at 30 minutes the it will be the proper 75%/25% split, at 0 minutes the author gets 100% of rewards. Every minute it scales in between those two numbers. Example: at 15 minutes it would be a 87.5%/12.5% split author/curator.
Hopefully that makes sense. The closer you get to 30 minutes the better curation rewards you get, UNLESS you have other big voters who vote before you.
As far as autovoters go its going to change for everyone depending on their other autovoters. If a whale votes @ steemituser at 29 minutes, its obviously beneficial to set it at 28. I see most of my small auto votes come between 15-20 minutes. Acid however rarely votes before the 30 minute mark
Exactly. Acid said its down to the second actually but to be honest I haven't confirmed. With my SP curation rewards are more of a bonus more than anything. I tend to vote undervalued stuff anyway (not big whale guaranteed curations)
This number is still precariously low! I'm sure if you lay off the voting, manually and with a pause of the steemvoter, in 3/4 days you'll be back on track!
The alternative is to lower the %'s on steemvoter to try and build your power up whilst still distributing votes.
Yeah, though most of my curation is done via @biophil’s bot, so not as easy to pause. No worries. Trust it’d equal out between not voting for a few days.
Hadn’t heard of Steemians until now though, looks like a cool service, so appreciate that share. :-)
One thing to keep in mind @rok-sivante when using SV: usually there are time delays between the number of minutes you set your vote to go out and the number of minutes that the vote actually goes out.
So, for example, if you set a rule to auto-vote an author on minute 25 after that author's posts are published, then expect the bot to vote on minute 27-28-29. Something along those lines.
For general speaking by experienced voters
and autovoters, they mostly start voting at 20 minutes to 29:59 seconds. Frankly speaking, I have no idea and didn’t test coz my low power of vote doesn’t make so much difference for curation reward.😅😅😅
Since I am one of those who concur with the idea that it's financially worth to manually votecontent more than using any blind algorithm or AI automatism out there @rok-sivante. I will share with you a couple of post links which surely will shed some light to start doing some calculations with greater success for yourself.
You can start reading this one to quickly enter onto the subject. And then, read this other post for further and additional ideas. :)
I curate manually so won't be able to advise but i'd love to see that list of quality content creators if you might happen to put up one in a form that is good to post. Missing a lot of good content in all that noise.
steemvoter allows to setup a list of account - NOT a blind algorithm.
anyone that'd be getting my votes, I'd be putting on the list because I've seen them demonstrate consistency in producing quality content and would like to support them. AND, I'd be checking up to make sure they're remaining consistent with their quality - and if not, they'd be booted off the list.
steemvoter allows to setup a list of account - NOT a blind algorithm.
In my opinion, whatever procedure, mechanism and action which means you are not actually READING. Reading thoroughly beforehand what you vote, it's more than painfully BLIND thru my eyes. }:)
as They say, “opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.”
Meanwhile, I could be selling my voting power, putting MY profit as a priority, upvoting shit for MY benefit. And yet the criticism for instead choosing to support authors diligently selected for their quality contributions to the community.
However, I still believe you're still on time and you may want modify the title of this post to be more accurate: "To Optimize Time/Profits Settings..."
Because frankly, I still had some doubts if this post was intended: To ¿Support one another? ¿Extract value from the authors? or Add value to the authors? }:)
@nnnarvaez, ¿How could you not find everywhere the 'consciousness-raising' humorous traces of an omniscient Cranky Gandalf who always stomps hard without fear to leave in sight all his footprints wherever he goes? LoL
In talks with @acidyo (one of the biggest manual curators I know) in steemit.chat. It is my understanding that at 30 minutes the it will be the proper 75%/25% split, at 0 minutes the author gets 100% of rewards. Every minute it scales in between those two numbers. Example: at 15 minutes it would be a 87.5%/12.5% split author/curator.
Hopefully that makes sense. The closer you get to 30 minutes the better curation rewards you get, UNLESS you have other big voters who vote before you.
thank you.
hmmm... interesting model. tough to figure out strategy, factoring in other voters.
IF that IS the case and the scaling is done EVENLY, this is what we'd be looking at:
As far as autovoters go its going to change for everyone depending on their other autovoters. If a whale votes @ steemituser at 29 minutes, its obviously beneficial to set it at 28. I see most of my small auto votes come between 15-20 minutes. Acid however rarely votes before the 30 minute mark
Exactly. Acid said its down to the second actually but to be honest I haven't confirmed. With my SP curation rewards are more of a bonus more than anything. I tend to vote undervalued stuff anyway (not big whale guaranteed curations)
Exactly the answer i am looking for. Although I am not sure if this is still the case now.
The key, outside of timing the vote as close to 30 but before a bigger fish than you, is looking at what the user usually makes on a post.
For example, a 50% vote (25c) with my 5000 SP, is going to yield a different result than a 50% vote (4$) than your 100,000 SP account.
Also, your vote power (20%) means you need a 4 day break from casting votes.
I suggest taking a look at @miniature-tiger's work on curation if you are really into the numbers.
Cool.
Though I’m a bit confused by what you mean by, “your vote power (20%) means you need a 4 day break from casting votes...”?
Hey
This number is still precariously low! I'm sure if you lay off the voting, manually and with a pause of the steemvoter, in 3/4 days you'll be back on track!
The alternative is to lower the %'s on steemvoter to try and build your power up whilst still distributing votes.
Cheers (for mine recently!)
https://steemworld.org/@rok-sivante
https://steemworld.org/@abh12345
Compare our voting power (top left) and amount we can currently cast with a 100% vote.
If you were at 95% power then your 100% vote would be 20 times (5000 sp here, 100,000 for you) larger.
It will take about 4 days to get there I think.
hmmm, not quite sure I fully understand, though is interesting that my voting power is only about worth double yours, while 8x the Steem Power...
You have Steemvoter enabled?
Hit the 'Pause' button for a few days if so.
If you are following any trails on Streemian, you'll need to disable those too.
Then keep an eye on the % in the top left here:
https://steemworld.org/@rok-sivante
Hope this helps!
Yeah, though most of my curation is done via @biophil’s bot, so not as easy to pause. No worries. Trust it’d equal out between not voting for a few days.
Hadn’t heard of Steemians until now though, looks like a cool service, so appreciate that share. :-)
Maybe get in touch with @biophil and ask for a pause there?
I see he's at 25% so it looks that that's the issue!
You want to get up into the 90%'s, your vote will be exponentially more valuable.
Although, make a note of your curation rewards for the past week, and then when you have more voting power, make a note after a week at that level.
Phil's bot could be doing you no harm at all :)
Mmm... so say I pause voting for a few days to get back up to 100%...
Do you know how long it’d take for the power to drop back down to what it’s at now? / How long would it stay up there until started dropping again?
One thing to keep in mind @rok-sivante when using SV: usually there are time delays between the number of minutes you set your vote to go out and the number of minutes that the vote actually goes out.
So, for example, if you set a rule to auto-vote an author on minute 25 after that author's posts are published, then expect the bot to vote on minute 27-28-29. Something along those lines.
For me, there's usually a delay of 3-4 minutes.
Ah k. Thanks for the tip. 🙏
goood question!!! i want to know as well :)
buena publicación , good =)
Interesting founding. 20 minutes rule🌈🌈🌈
What do you mean by “20 minutes rule?”
For general speaking by experienced voters
and autovoters, they mostly start voting at 20 minutes to 29:59 seconds. Frankly speaking, I have no idea and didn’t test coz my low power of vote doesn’t make so much difference for curation reward.😅😅😅
cool. thank you.
Good quistion
Since I am one of those who concur with the idea that it's financially worth to manually votecontent more than using any blind algorithm or AI automatism out there @rok-sivante. I will share with you a couple of post links which surely will shed some light to start doing some calculations with greater success for yourself.
You can start reading this one to quickly enter onto the subject. And then, read this other post for further and additional ideas. :)
I curate manually so won't be able to advise but i'd love to see that list of quality content creators if you might happen to put up one in a form that is good to post. Missing a lot of good content in all that noise.
steemvoter allows to setup a list of account - NOT a blind algorithm.
anyone that'd be getting my votes, I'd be putting on the list because I've seen them demonstrate consistency in producing quality content and would like to support them. AND, I'd be checking up to make sure they're remaining consistent with their quality - and if not, they'd be booted off the list.
In my opinion, whatever procedure, mechanism and action which means you are not actually READING. Reading thoroughly beforehand what you vote, it's more than painfully BLIND thru my eyes. }:)
as They say, “opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.”
Meanwhile, I could be selling my voting power, putting MY profit as a priority, upvoting shit for MY benefit. And yet the criticism for instead choosing to support authors diligently selected for their quality contributions to the community.
Ah yes, the “most undesirable follower...
Well, I warned you in advance!! LoL
However, I still believe you're still on time and you may want modify the title of this post to be more accurate: "To Optimize Time/Profits Settings..."
Because frankly, I still had some doubts if this post was intended: To ¿Support one another? ¿Extract value from the authors? or Add value to the authors? }:)
How come i find you every where hahahaha!
@nnnarvaez, ¿How could you not find everywhere the 'consciousness-raising' humorous traces of an omniscient Cranky Gandalf who always stomps hard without fear to leave in sight all his footprints wherever he goes? LoL
Lol. :-)
Well, constructive criticism can be valuable. And, that is a good tip. Acting upon it, as does create greater clarity.
goood question!!!