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RE: Boosters -- Why They Are Bad For Steem and Steemit

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Thank you for starting this discussion!

MinnowBooster is currently trying out a blacklist program and will most likely soon check for cheetah comments. If there is any way how to programmatically check if a user is banned, that would be extremely helpful.

We want to make a useful booster and spammers using it saddens us. I hope that this discussion will continue and raise general awareness of the responsibility boosters should have.

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@reggaemuffin,
Programmatically checking the user status is still little hard! Actually it's not a problem of boosters! It's a problem of people who wish to abuse respectful systems!

Cheers~

Definitely! But Minnowbooster is sophisticated and is now watching cheetah flags, so abuse of it will become harder and harder.

@reggaemuffin,
That would be a great + mark!

Cheers~

The easiest way to look for cheetah I think is to just look for a cheetah downvote on that post. Should be possible to look for the comment too but I haven't tired either myself yet. I know others do check for the vote though. Has to be a simple command to list all votes on a post or steemit would take forever to scan the user history every time you click the voting history. I'll try to check tomorrow if I have the time. Too much spam to wade though tonight.

Edit: Forgot I still had the docs open. Piston has a get_comments() function that returns all top level comments so there you go. p=Post("@author/permlink"). If cheetah or steemcleaners in p.get_comments(). I would assume p would contain the list of votes as well.

That is a good idea! Thank you, I'll try that out in a minute.

Be aware that minnowbooster is pretty fast so if cheetah is lagging behind, this can mean we miss the vote.

Edit: @minnowbooster will now stop voting on cheetah flagged posts.

I'm surprised you didn't see this coming from the beginning, I applaud any efforts you're making to mitigate self reward abuse. Unfortunately you are profiting greatly from these abuses so I won't be holding my breath!

I'm surprised you did not notice that we were seeing this coming. We have a daily and weekly limit that slows down abuse. We have a blacklist for minnowbooster specific abuse. We are in contact with the steemcleaners and report spam we notice while checking minnowbooster votes. Multiple team members are even helpers in the steemcleaners discord. We disabled voting on comments as the first bot. And I am using a big chink of my personal voting power to combat abuse by flagging away rewards.

We may not be shiny perfect gods who see all but we are putting in the work. And I will gladly listen to any suggestion you have for us to improve in that regard :)

Meanwhile, you are still up voting @zer0hedge, the most notorious and successful scammer on the platform ... Thanks for your support on my posts in the past, but it's very hard to take you seriously on the subject of fighting abuse. Praying you don't flag me, but had to be said.

On what grounds do you allege @zer0hedge is a scammer?

For real? It is unashamed copypasta. New users are nuked for it day in and day out, but that account gets away with it because it has whale support and is too expensive to take down. I asked a friend the other day to help with some flagging Fubar sent over and the first thing he said said was "Why do these little guys get fucked on by everyone while that @zer0hedge guy gets away with it?" ... pretty much

I wasn't aware of that. Why isn't it getting picked up by @cheetah then?

I did a quick plagiarism check on their latest post which of course links back to their main website but it seems to be original writing, the check didn't turn anything up. In fact several other sites used them as a source.

Hi mate, apologies for the tone of my original response too - I thought it was a loaded question.

That user isn't Zero Hedge/Tyler Turden, as per the disclaimer at the end of their posts, that user simply copies posts from the Zerohedge website and pastes them here. I'm not sure as to why cheetah doesn't pick them up though.

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