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RE: Third Test Livestream; Steemit Update

in #steemit6 years ago (edited)

Ned, I watched your livestream today. You should know that I've spent a year (officially a year in 10 days) sharing daily on Steem blockchain. I've invested my own money and time and kept up with the speed of the dApps released.

The video reminded me of a relationship where someone has been giving too much and is angry at the other person, but the odd thing is that the other person wasn't asking that you do it all. I think you think we expect Steemit Inc to do everything, yet we really don't. One of the reasons I'm here is because I'm fucking in love with this community -- and you've never even replied to any of my comments to you. I say this to help you see that my experience here is on Steemit Inc's blockchain, but it has nothing to do with you.

You have no reason to be mad and edgy at us. I understand that's a part of releasing tension- to be mad at the other person, yet we have sat back and patiently waited for your releases, your updates, your communication and we've gotten little in return.

I thank you for today you spoke real talk-- last week you were playing your guitar and there was no freakin' substance to anything you shared. I turned it off halfway through. What is this, I thought. Yet today, even with your edgy tone, you communicated SO MUCH of what we have been longing to hear.... Plz keep it up.

We don't expect you to do everything. But, as in a relationship, we do expect you to clearly state what is yours to do and what we shouldn't expect you to do. You started that process of honest transparency in this livestream today. Please keep it up.

I have a feeling that even if Steemit Inc throws in the towel or is too fatigued to continue, this community will not die. I have made dozens of friends here and many of them have not only invested their time and talents, but also their hard earned money. These people are everything to me and I can't imagine my life without them. That is Steem and I hope you realize that. The power of what is happening here rests on your blockchain, but we will take it from here and we can give you a breather if you need it. Keep up the honest communication. We're all better with it! I hope you get some much needed rest and can hear some of the words I've shared -- As someone who loves Steem and wants it to continue!!!

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The problem is as @RichatVNS said "@Ned is not a leader or even a Boss" he is a guy that has an idea and followed it down an technical wormhole.

He has no previous experience growing and running a company for years. He was able to use his looks on social media to be the face of the product. And get buy in.

The same thing happened during the Internet boon of the mid 90s, which had the bubble burst in the late 90s. The gen Xers all thought they could run companies. They either: (a) learned to listen to people with more experience and affect changes to both themselves and thier business, bring in better managment or (b) essentially went belly up in bad ways screwing everyone around them investors, employees, users, customers, and most off most members of the management team who usually fall into multiple categories.

The question is not that they are down to a company of 9 to 12 people.
You should be asking why are there 2 employees doing the recording of the video while 2 others are in front of it. This is a waste of 4 resources time. doing a vlog takes a cellphone done.... .

One of the reasons I'm here is because I'm fucking in love with this community ...

Exactly.
It's great to create new DApps, hope for SMTs as a 'game changer' or to be 'proud' of having such a fast blockchain. Yes, technological progress does matter, BUT we schouldn't forget that the unique feature of STEEM in comparisen with all other crypto currencies is already existing: the community. The users who are building strong connections and friendships with each other, their dedication to STEEM, their investments of time and money and their skills!
Are popularity and high value of facebook resulting from any especially advanced technology? No! Only the huge amount of users being connected there with friends and family are the value!

Thus our main aim should be to allure (and retain!) new users!

And concerning this 'we' are simply just too 'arrogant' in my opinion!
Do potential users need us (STEEM) more or do we need the users? I think we need them, not reversed. So we should care more about that succeeding here as a newbie will be somewhat easier in future.
For example we should make the effort to seek more, read more, comment more (not only send bots) and upvote more manually!

Also, aren't there just enough STEEM to make it possible for smaller accounts to earn some decent money? As long as the user with the highest reputation in the whole STEEM cosmos earns more than 20000 dollar per month by self-voting (and he is not the only one), and as long as there are no serious efforts to restrict that kind of behavior (I have made many suggestions how one could do to do that ... but never ever got any reply from any Steemit Inc. member), I think we shouldn't tell newbies there were just not enough STEEM to reward them somewhat better ...

I think there is a similar discussion when it comes to the inability of new users to upvote and comment more than a few times per day. "They simply should understand that every transaction is eating resources."
Yes, maybe, but we should understand that new users simply don't need us. :)
If they are having problems to create a STEEM account, they will create one elsewhere. If they cannot comment here, they comment under their friends posts in facebook - simple like that.

Exactly.
If new users are not even able to comment on replies in their own blogs because they have no resource credits they will leave that platform, post somewhere else and steemit will not survive. There were many auction platforms, but in the end, ebay has prevailed, although the highest fees. Simply because someone who put something there for sale knew it was seen by many. In Germany there were f.e. "Who-knows-who" but they simply could not keep alive because people went to Facebook. In my opinion, Steemit will only be successful if it appeals to people and inspires them. If it scares them off and this is happening at the moment, because new members can not actively participate in the community due to lack of resource credits, the new members will turn their noses over and leave - they will be lost forever!

This info given to me by fellow member of the steeminati @richatvns

ebay is the largest because they cheated. They bought out there competitors, bidbay , bestbay, and then dangled a buy out in front of yahoo. Which made them change their auction listings from free and commission only at time of sale to charging a listing fee.
Then after the negative affect of the change destroyed the community, they pulled there offer back.

They did the same practice that Microsoft did with IBM related to OS2 and Windows 2.0.

Not to mention what Microsoft did with Windows 3.x/386 screwing over Lotus and WordPerfect.

I have been in the industry at the time of what was really going on.

The point is not that people use it, not because it was better, but because the management made smart moves to move the product line forward and they aggressively supported the User Base.

Ned does not understand that! The best asset he could have is his user base, they would champion his product and the underlying technology, the SteemIt Platfotm is the way to spread the word. He should drop every developer except a maintence staff for the Block chain. Then go out the community and offer future locked up spd's (version 2 and very small stipends) to programmers, designers and project leaders to work in an agile Open Source Group to improve SteemIt and the Steem Blockchain. I'm sorry but being a witness in most cases are admins, not programmers, social media experts, system archs and developers, qa and documentation writers.

Groups of stakeholders could easily be created to oversee the spec and direction of both STEEM the blockchain and SteemIt the community app. The same way android, OSA, Ansi, Mozilla, and are all done.

Then way later (many years) the Mozilla team could give up on Netscape which the took over from AOL, and then a couple years later the Netscape. Because of the Existance of versions which use it's engine that exceed the user basis and capabilities like firefox, chrome, and safari.

But the team at Mozilla never said they were going to drop Netscape as the other browsers were starting to use the database, they partnered and built a strong vibrant community.

Instead of the FUD he has done, This is a path of a CEO

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thanks calvin....We will wait and see if @ned gets his head out of the clouds...The idea is good otherwise I would not be here, but I'm seeing some things that need to be addressed.

Yes, right, the idea of ​​Steemit is very good. But from my point of view some things have to be changed, e.g. At least allow answering replies in your own blog and if you say that you need 1-2 weeks to set up a new account, then it should be ready after latest 2 weeks

I think you see it right. Steemit is giving away a lot right now. I know, for example of new users who registered more than two weeks ago and was told by Steemit that the process needed to be controlled would take 1-2 weeks. The two weeks are over and the users are still not released. For other sites you can start immediately if you have registered, with Steemit you have to wait for 1-2 weeks according to their own statement and then they do not keep this maximum of 2 weeks.

It is not only the onboarding process, I think there is a whole lack of business administration and a fundamental understanding of economy. The blockchain and Steem(it) itself is an ecosystem and a very special one.
Ofc there are great minds in the company itself, but the main part is the community and for that we should include and develop it. Ppl claiming this is the era of decentralization, then every1 has to put effort and his skills into this, not only post, also cleaning and think about how we can make this system better togehter(also the witnesses have a high responsability here!)
I hope and dont want this to end(at all), but there should be clear informations about what is going on and what is going to happen.

stay tuned for the next episode of... survival of a community :P

We don't expect you to do everything. But, as in a relationship, we do expect you to clearly state what is yours to do and what we shouldn't expect you to do. You started that process of honest transparency in this livestream today. Please keep it up.

Yes, those are very true words. I know not all that is being said and done is visible to @ned, but 'behind the scenes' I see many people willing to take on challenges, tasks, costs - but clarity on what Steemit Inc will be doing is going to help tremendously in understand what Steemit Inc will not be doing which in turn will make people realize/understand/start embracing where they can 'pitch in'.

Todays livestream felt like some tension had to be let go, which is okay, and understandable, but by doing them regularly I believe we can create a very healthy way of understanding where Steemit Inc stands and what 'we' as a community should do to contribute to a thriving Steem (network).

yes @soyrosa, very true words. and i really was inspired by your post on taking the lead and seeing oneself as a leader. i've been sitting and ruminating on many of the "goings on" since this announcement and I've been enjoying seeing leaders emerge. Thank you for being one and for raising a potent war cry of sorts that many of us can respond to.

this "pitching in" of which you speak is really the core strength i see from this community. i am completely understanding of their tension and i'm happy to see the energy move. for too long i feel we've been kept in the dark. we all have some stake here and i continue to believe we are a part of a radical and amazing community concept that has been rewarding so many of us in real life terms.

by doing them regularly I believe we can create a very healthy way of understanding where Steemit Inc stands and what 'we' as a community should do to contribute to a thriving Steem (network).

I love this... and I say a full YES to it! let us be very clear with what our roles are and how we can empower one another and ourselves to move into the future with wise and skillful action!! thanks!

This has been a thoughtful comment that I wish I could replicate. I'll just ride the waves on this comment. Great one @mountainjewel!

I'm almost completely lost when I saw his update about laying off 70% of his employees and he followed up a post mostly playing his guitar. I got a bit more worried because for a year and 5 months now, I have been spending almost all of my time Steeming.

I have not finished the video today and I'm positive to look forward to it :)

I got a bit more worried because for a year and 5 months now, I have been spending almost all of my time Steeming.

me too, man... and there are so many of us who are similarly invested. if i can say one thing, however, it's that the rally that i've seen as a result of this announcement really lets me know that everything's going to be okay. it's clear the community is strong and really won't let this blockchain experiment die easily.

this video and the information therein is long in coming, in my opinion... but at least ned has finally said the true words hiding beneath the surface. i think we have a bright future. this is just a reassessment phase!

thanks, i really appreciate that! i'm glad @ned addressed many of your excellent points during the vid. it's a time of reckoning, to be sure, and i'm glad there are so many intelligent longstanding community members with not only the historic perspective, but also a grounded vision.

Well, I for one quite liked the guitar :0)

:) i did too... but i was looking for a bit more substance.. or at least felt a little confused as to the point of the livestream...

I thought it was just me that thought about that "lacking of substance".

One thing more, why the call to subscribe in Youtube really when this account can just stay here ? Well, I can't help but think, it's abandon Steemit ship already. I just wish there's an assertive announcement to that and a clear plan of what's next.

It’s Steemit, Inc.

Glad that’s all you took from it.. i changed it, but what about the rest of the post?

I so agree. I had the same impression of the edginess and resentment that comes from worrying about the expectations people have of you and being unclear on them yourself, and the same relief seeing some real communication about the vision, values, and strategy of steemit, inc.

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