The biggest failure on Steemit: Mr. Bilal HaidersteemCreated with Sketch.

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

I thought i'd write about Bilal since I have a somewhat unique window into his existence.

If you aren't aware of him, here's the story summed up:

  • Sad little man followed 25,000 people
  • Comes to chat asking why he's not making money
  • Gets angry and abusive (F*** you in the ass, you an ugly b**ch etc) when told his content is plagiarised
  • Gets downvoted for plagiarism
  • Gets downvoted for being abusive
  • Reputation crashes down to 9

The reality is, he would never have made it here. Even his original content was utter garbage.

Seriously, One post might be a picture of a butterfly stolen and not credited, with inane, unformatted junk which a 5 year old might write:

In and of itself, that's pretty cute, but not from a grown man talking about raping people on the chat. At this point I decided there was obviously something wrong with him, be it culturally for living in an oppressive country like Pakistan, or mentally for having little to no medical care for his deranged mind.

So I approached him in private messages. First, I trolled him for fun with a lovely short story:

As the internet troll looked at himself in the mirror, he noticed the yellow pus oozing out of his cheek. He quickly wiped it with his finger and rubbed it over his penis.

Oh yeah that feels good

@mobiletower walked back into his bedroom, where 3 naked men were sucking each other off in a pyramid formation. @mobiletower went back to his corner, where the best view of the three in action was, and started touching himself.

He directed the three men to go inside each other with their throbbing shafts, which made him go wild with passion. In his mind, he could see himself in that triangle, praising allah for the bliss that was gifted to him, but his small penis prevented him from gaining enough confidence. He would have to stay in the corner until his penis pump arrived. For now, rubbing pus over his genitalia would have to suffice

I feel like this would upset him since he started getting abusive in the main chat because the word sex was mentioned which goes against his silly religion.

But then I started to reason with him by telling him that he has caused enough hate that these people could easily flag him out of facebook with 10 or more flags, as well as the destruction on Steemit, and even his YouTube channel.

So we got talking, finally:

And over time, I managed to convince him to at least add credits for one or two posts. Additionally he had to promise never to come back to steemit chat, and in return I would convince the others to unflag those posts accordingly.

He pretty much kept to his word, with some idle threats on the side, and I got some downvotes removed.

He more or less kept to his word. He did stalk the general chat, but without saying anything. Like a little kid, he became saddened when people were talking about him:

I managed to keep things as they were, but then things got a whole lot worse.

@kafkanarchy84 made a post that showed Bilal Haider stole his identity among other things, and there was a campaign to flag Bilal into the ground for his crimes.

Notice the stolen account name and picture.

He went on a campaign to deny everything he did and say somebody stole HIS account, but the evidence was so obvious that it was, again, like a little child trying to lie about the paint on their hands.

Well, his reputation was shot, down to -1, and rightfully so.

At this point he had nothing left. He lives in a crappy little field with his crappy little computer and his worthless YouTube channel and his boring mind and his restrictive belief system, he had nothing left.

He decided honouring a promise was no longer worthwhile, and decided to spam the chat, which continues on a daily basis to this day across numerous chat channels:

Although the sentiment of having sex in a loving fashion was nice of him, copy-pasting over and over on 20 accounts a day makes the chat a little difficult to handle. Thankfully we have our own secret chat he can't access, but for new people, this is not helping.

He then sent me this:


I cut it short, told him it's his loss and finally blocked him.

For now until new preventative measures are taken, he will continue to sign up with 20 accounts and abuse the chat whenever he's awake. Ah well.



For me, it's sad. There's clearly something very wrong with him. Here in China, I know first hand the difficulties of people with mental instability. There's almost no precedent for help of this kind in the entire country. You might get some experts that have prestige by helping some famous rich person, but they turn out not to really be experts at all.

From my experience, the best of the best sat down with one of my students and after a few minutes said 'oh, he has BiPolar disorder. Take this traditional tea'. Needless to say, the kid suffers to this day.

Being in a tiny little village in an Islamic country, learning to hate women and criticism with nothing but a little YouTube channel and obviously absent parents, it's hard to expect them to be anything more than a raging 10 year old.

It's sad because, when he does eventually get bored and goes back to his old life... what does that entail? Taking photos of his little hamlet, standing around, waiting to grow old, vengeance against anybody who didn't make him rich growing every week?

But the saddest part is how wonderful a person he believes he is. A quick look on his Facebook shows:

Notice the following contradictions:

  • I am a man
  • I am a man of my word
  • I don't bear disrespecting woman
  • I am humble

And so on.

Some people are just beyond help.

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We gave Him multiple chances...

he just couldn't "ConTroll" himself...

It made me a little sad, but then I realized he was doing it because he thought it was funny. Then he realized how SteemIt works and it was going to seriously effect his blog... that's when for maybe a few hours he thought he may change.

... but he decided fuck it, I have YouTube and don't need SteemIt... I'll continue to troll.

Little did he know that I and some of others of us, are bigger trolls 😂

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We were able to troll him out of the chats a few times... including post promotion lol.

Me and Eliiot had turne post promo into an actual chat room when we got him out of there the first time...

it was truly magical... and for that BilalHaider will always be remembered here on SteemIt lol.

post promotion as a chat room? I no longer trust you, troll. Such a thing is impossible.

But yeah. silly little boy he is. If fun is 'signing up with 20 accounts and pasting a chunk of text for days on end' is his idea of 'fun', then I don't know what to believe anymore

In Balil Haiders world...
fun is much different then ours 😂

Funnily enough this is not the first post I have read out this user. I remember reading about how he would impersonate other users in steemit.chat for some reason.

It must be a pretty huge culture shock to come from a small village in an isolated country, to getting on Steemit or other social media platform where you can communicate with people from all over the world. In some cases this can be a wonderful experience for both sides, but it other cases we end up with upset users like this that just acts as children when they get confronted about their behavior.

Yeah, with the openness of completely contrasting ideas, no matter how mainstream your beliefs may be, you really have to have been raised in an open society like this in order to not stress out and go insane... It's a tough world out there

I mean, the guy is a spammer. But what does that have to do with country/beliefs?

Lol I was just reading about you getting nuked too lol. Hi there.

Anyway, he made numerous remarks about women being less than men, was incredibly misogynistic in general and complained of cultural differences being the reason people don't like him. The very mention of sex in the chat is what caused him to become abusive in the first place, saying it was sinful to mention it and sex makes people fat.

Low income countries with low levels of education and oppressive beliefs in things such as Sharia law tend to breed people with bizarre beliefs like that, further exacerbated by the confirmation bias effect of those around them, patting each other on the back and no outside influence to correct them

Yeah, I pissed somebody off really good with my post. But at least my points got exposure in the end.

But on topic...

I don't know man. I've seen plenty of people come from 1st world countries that provide pretty decent public schooling and they still have some strange beliefs.

I think this guy just had a tizzyfit cause he wasn't making any money on his low-value posts, not because of his background.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's purely because of his background. I just think, based on the pictures of where he lives, the way he described his beleifs, these things probably tie in with his issues. As I said it could also simply be a mental problem, but he isn't normal, of that I'm sure.

But for example, in China where information is strictly regulated, it's not that some people in good education believe wacky things it's that they all typically believe in the same false things together, like acupuncture. Likewise, when you strictly follow a set of beliefs in a small village, you become close-minded to anything that contradicts what you've been brought up to believe.

But for sure I'm only speaking subjectively here

Yeah, fair enough

Holy bacon ....

I am having a similar problem with a guy from Pakistan @mobbs. Although not as crazy as this episode with Bilal sounds. I just flagged him for frequent posting in misleading catagories, plagiarism and posting porn. That dude got angry at me started writing on my posts.
I just left him like that for the community to see him and flag him down.

Sigh. Vengeance is a tricky thing to deal with.

But, in fairness, Porn is acceptable here, if it has the NOT SAFE FOR WORK thing hiding the content. Not sure how they plan on making it family friendly in the future but yeah. no excuse for everything else, obviously.

Hmm..I realised about porn later. I still don't think sharing tasteless and random porn videos brings anything productive into the forum. Maybe the admins will look into it someday.

Agreed. Any of the crap where they just copy news or something is worthless. They think they can succeed if they put the source at the bottom but... no contribution whatsoever

Exactly what I'm trying to say. Hope things get better.

There's no admins.

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Fuck that, fuck his facebook account, he can't get verified again. From one troll slayer to another, fuck em proper.

Haha... Myabe it will come down to that. I haven't actually seen him for a couple of days. He might have worn himself out... we'll see

Sounds a bit sociolpathic. Steven syndrome. heh. I think it's really kind and sweet of you to go that extra mile and try bring some reasoning to him. The power of the majority won on this case, he was too bothered about what everyone else thinks and could not let go of his past deeds and man up. It is sad when you realise some people cannot be helped, but you tried and that is what counts... and no bad real vibes between you and him which is a bonus :)

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