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RE: Idea: Reputation should be based on the Steem Power of your followers

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Rep based on followers. An interesting approach. Though it could create the hunt for followers; Such hunt could go into: I give you Steem/US$/Euro and you follow me; ie Gaming the system. But I guess many technology only algorithm has its flaws and leave room for gaming. Also, do you think minnows will start de-following others, eg Whales, when such Whale is posting 'wrong' and 'bad' posts and comments, and when a Whale is flagging? Keep in mind, the flagging by some of the Whales are sometimes good, and sometimes not so good, it really depends how you look at things.

In the science world the number of references to your article establishes a kind of reputation. Google uses similar way of ranking search results. I know it is not in our culture on Steemit to reference articles, but maybe we can start doing so when we build article references into the rep formula.

I opt for a supervisor board with enforcement tools. I know this goes against many of our fellow Steemians, but I think any new system should take the good things from the old system and use it. Supervisor boards may not be always implemented in a correct way, and can also be corrupted, but I'm sure we can come up with a way of implementation that will work better than technology alone: Think of members being voted for by the community; Think of limited time for each member in the role as supervisor; Think of rotation of supervisors.

Some will say: this is a police force. My argument is: When that is a police force, then all the rules implemented by technology is also a police force. The only difference is that the enforcer is either human or technology. Such supervisor board could get tools to ban certain users, or to mute a certain user for some time, or whatever measurements we as a collective decide upon shall be taken to whatever misuse of the service, the community etc. Some of us think that we shall have all the freedom we want, but in a world where we live together with others we have to respect each other. When someone is not respectful anymore in such a way it is damaging the community we are part of, some measurements should be possible to take to prevent further damaging the community. To decide if someone is going to far, some judgement needs to happen and some enforcement shall follow. I do really see no harm whatsoever to involve humans in such process; I actually think it is better, since not all situations are the same, even under the same conditions. In the end we are humans, and humans are not robotic in the sense we are all alike. Any situation is also unique, some maybe similar, but rarely they are exactly the same. At this stage technology is not able to make the nuance required to determine what is good and what is damaging for the community.

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Wow you sure wrote a lot. I'll just give a few quick thoughts:

Supervisor Board:

  • could be witnesses, but
  • i prefer the ability for anybody to become member to make this as democratic as possible and to increase acceptance level for such board

It's actually not that hard to be a witness. Just takes a little technical know-how. Getting voted on is another matter.

If supervisors are not witnesses, then I'd still want them to be stake voted.

Why not having a mix, some members with higher stakes and some with lower stakes. In the end it shall be objective and IMHO that does not have anything to do with the stake itself. In fact, when only hogh stake holders are allowed, we do bot solve the situation we have now where whales are fighting with each other and the power is at a small top of the entire community. That situation really has to change, otherwise no suistainable uptake for Steemit I'm afraid.

some members with higher stakes and some with lower stakes

I think you misunderstand. A witness doesn't have to have a large stake at all, they have to be voted on by those with stake.

I was mentioning more in general.

Witnesses require technical knowledge, excluding a whole bunch from the community, which is not prefered.

A supervisor board shall not be for a few, but shall be for everybody to reach. Otherwise the community will have hard time to accept; I would for sure.

Ok, I'm totally fine with the idea of supervisors who are voted on with stake, but not required to run or maintain witness nodes.

Thats the idea! :) How can we make this happen?

LOL just read your post on Rep Repair Service; super! You had a lot of clients back then?

I had two. One I decided not to help and the other I did help. I (and many others) helped @ltndd1 get his reputation back. He went on to post for a few more months until leaving for other reasons.

Though so little of us; Cool service anyway! :) Time maybe for a new service, something like "Flag Undo Service" and "I Don't Let You Leave Service"?

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