Steemit took down @thedarkoverlord
Here is the fact about which our community is very quiet. Steemit removed @thedarkoverlord. I wouldn't go into discussion about ethics and moral of @thedarkoverlord endeavors. But what is the most painful here is that Steemit by removing @thedarkoverlord also removed our comments and upvotes. This, together with last @ned's fiasco with dismantling STINC up to the point where he almost screwed everything is enough for us as community to start thinking how to get rid of STINC and Steemit.
The only question now is are we up to the given task?
Steemit front end was created and ran by steemit Inc, they can take what action they like and they will reap the consequences.
Why should they risk years of litigation for someone who is basically acting like a digital blackmailer. If their content is so great, do a Snowden and share it.
Luckily, there are many other front ends available. So it's no real news at all.
Please stop the fud. They were not removed from the blockchain.
Where did I write that they are removed from the blockchain?
If you don't like it, present us with a better option. Otherwise you're wasting everyone's time.
Steemit Inc hold millions in funds that can be used to develop the blockchain.
You want the community to cut them loose and turn to who? You?
It's easy to pull things down, much harder to build something
You didn't answer my question? Isn't that waste of time?
You didn't need to write anywhere that they were removed from the blockchain for him to VALIDLY point out that they aren't removed from the blockchain, you only needed to post a diagram of blocks in a blockchain for anyone to have a valid reason to point out that they weren't removed from the blockchain.
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Totally agree. See my comment below.
They risk years of litigation anyway if they don't curb accounts like DSJ. Why go after 1 and not the other? Too many accounts are not who or what they say they are and it's getting a little thick here.
Have a good one @kabir88!
I am no fan of steemit Inc, but when you operate a business that has a legal presence in the real world, legal considerations do matter.
I don't know the reasons for the inconsistency. It will just be another one of these mysteries I guess.
You can get rid of them at anytime you wish by choosing not to log onto THEIR site. Not sure who "we" are that you are referencing.
I have seen several posts lately suggesting a fork take place that would rob the founders of their stake. Maybe that is the we you reference. That would be suicide, not only from the public scrutiny on the sidelines, but for any potential future investors who would rightly worry their holdings would be what, stolen from them if they failed to meet your approval? Not sure what else you might be implying by getting rid of them.
To date, there have been zero forks that have performed better than the main chain. When forks have happened, it has damaged both sides. Not a smart move and one that should only be taken as a last resort.
"We" is the community. And "getting rid of them" implies combination of marketing, code development and infrastructure development in purpose of diminishing Steemit importance, especially for the new users, to the point where nobody will regularly use it. Is that too hard to comprehend?
No, you don't represent me, OR the community. As far as I'm concerned you speak ONLY for yourself and whoever else is idiotic enough to consider your nonsensical bullshit of "how fraudulent steemit is" or "everything the blockchain stands for" as intrepid and not idiotic nonsense as it's evident this action STEEMIT took has nothing to do with the blockchain OR everything it stands for.
Yeah it's hard to comprehended that you are some kind of voice for the community or that what Steemit did requires that they get tossed to the curb, only an insensitive idiot will "ride or die" for these tools being removed by Steemit, maybe if it was something that didn't directly violate Steemits TOS or if you could successfully make an argument that their TOS are unfair or very restrictive or at fault somehow then people might consider it, but seeing as you still haven't removed the misleading diagram and still persist with nonsensical "this action is against everything the blockchain stands for" trying to justify it.
It was always clear to me that Steemit Inc. is able to delete accounts (access via steemit.com). Did anyone ever read the TOS (Terms of Services)??? It clearly states:
So, there is no reason to complain or fuss about it. The moment you apply and get a Steemit account (or busy, whatever, the TOS are similar) you agree to the Terms of Service.
STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM STEEMIT IS NOT STEEM
Of course we know that Steem is not Steemit. But why are you fogging the fact that Steemit is the most known interface for Steem? And that Steemit is first resource for potential new users? Lots of users left because of Steemit wrongdoings.
Why do you say he's fogging up "the fact" of steemit.com's popularity by making emphasis of the fact that STEEM is not STEEMIT?
Simply because comments weren't about steem not being the same as steemit. Why are you asking stupid questions?
No they(comments) weren't about steem vs steemit but since when wasn't that a valid distinction to make to the above comment concerning "deletion" of accounts by steemit?
The only stupid one asking questions is the one who resorts to questionable questions like "why" I'm asking about something that is completely invalid and false like saying that by making the distinction that STEEM is not STEEMIT in response to the comment regarding the TOS, that it is somehow fogging up "the fact" of steemit.com's popularity. They made a distinction because they thought it needed to be made, and it's readily evident so don't act as if they weren't relevant or were "fogging" up anything, especially if you don't want people to ask you why you say so.
You basically demand that Steemit, a registered commercial company, should risk prosecution and elimination to publish a blackmailing hacker. No sane CEO would do that, and if @ned would, I would seriously question his management abilities.
Steemit inc. has the full rights to remove that content and to banish the user. As others pointed out, it'll still be on the blockchain and other frontends can decide otherwise if they want. The game is called free market... If there is more gain than loss in publishing that stuff, there'll be publishers. If not, not.
I don't demand anything. I'm just pointing out that STINC looks the same as Facebook, while they are claiming that they are different.
@ned already proved incompetent in his recent fiasco.
I'm not discussing STINC's rights, I'm pointing out that they are creating gap between Steem and Steemit. But somebody already wrote, that's actually good thing. That's one more step in Steemit not being #1 interface to Steem. Like right now, I'm writing this from Busy.org.
"You basically demand". Vs "You demand". facepalm.
You basically demand that they shouldn't remove blackmailing hackers. Nough said.
To you, removing blackmailing hackers from the front end is the same as the censorship FB does, as you indicate that there's no difference. Nough said.
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Thanks a lot to all fellow steemians upvoting this post! Thanks for saving it! Thanks for fighting against SP bullies! Thanks for fighting for freedom of speech!
Freedom of spreading FUD.
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You'll be okay...
Here is what I recommend: Use a different front end. To be fair, I didn't love the decision to remove their posts either.
Also, these are the lamest hackers I've ever heard of. So, there is also that.
Does Busy take percentage from rewards?
No, they do not. And they give a nice upvote based on your followers.
That's great! Thanks for the info. It also has nicer UI and UX.
Hey, I forgot to mention that you should use the tag... busy in the first tag place for the upvote.
Doesn’t have to be first tag. I’ve often used it as last.
Oh, thank you... :)
Thanks!
Agreed.
There's no need to get rid of steemit. Just use whatever alternative you like. Fortunately, there are several. You could also create your own. It is the blockchain that is censorship resistant, not any individual interface. If I were to create an interface, i could choose to censor it or not however I want. I don't necessarily agree with Steemit's choice here but it is their's to make.
That argument would be OK, if Steemit wouldn't be #1 interface often confused with Steem blockchain by common users. Steemit and STINC affect whole blockchain and the community by their actions and irresponsible behavior.
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No they don't affect the whole blockchain at all. It does no justice to further confuse people on the issue of STEEM vs STEEMIT by making this about the blockchain or using misleading graphics to indicate that this SOMEHOW has anything to do with the blockchain when it has NOTHING to do with it, so you're clearly spreading fud. It was not irresponsible to delete a blackmailing hacker group from the frontend, it was clearly and completely irresponsible to imply this had anything to do with the blockchain while basically saying that their action has anything to do with the blockchain in the comments attempting to justify the FUD spreading diagram. It was also completely irresponsible to speak on behalf of the community. It was also completely irresponsible to call people names, talk about their ability to comprehend or throw shade on it. It was also completely irresponsible to deem this act, as damaging to the community or as the equivalent of what Facebook is doing.
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Thanks for giving me all of your attention! I'm very happy that you commit hours of your time just to me. That's very flattering. :*
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You mean "all this attention", but then again what to expect from you if not more attempts at turning this about me so keep on mocking me and ridiculing "how I spend ALL my time" because clearly you haven't anything meaningful, thoughtful or insightful to share.
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I'm sorry man, but I think you should go seek some professional help. I'm telling this for your own good.
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As I was saying. You probably tell people "ask for Neptune wages" for their own good also.
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Very concerning indeed. Even more so with the outrage of some users in the comments and the flags which made the post "invisible".
Still there are lots of good people here saving the day. Thanks everybody for your support!
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