RE: If We Want to Slow the Use of Voting Bots, We Need to Meet a Market Need - Here's a Possible Solution
Seems interesting enough and quite doable, with some tweaking...
By the way, I just nominated you to take part in the B&W Photo Challenge. I mention you in this entry: https://steemit.com/sevendaybnwchallenge/@binkyprod/black-and-white-7-day-photo-challenge-day-1
Back to finding solutions, I never look at the Promoted Tab and the problem with it is if your budget is 1SBD, no one will see your post at all. But the things that platforms like Fb have, is that, there is no guarantee either.
If we have those promoted posts be at the top, then people we follow will be buried under them. We could have a recommended area, where it's promoted content, but it will show up on that page to people with similar interests without being buried.
What COULD be done is for each SBD, the post is brought back to the top of the page every said amount of hours, until the budget the creator put in is spent. Sort of like Kijiji does things, but without leaving it at the top.
For example: I spend 5 SBD on a post. Then Every 4 hours, it's brought back to the top. So then that happens 5 times, and then it's done. So for one day, every 4 hours, my post is back at the tip, automatically. If I spent $20 SBD, then that goes on for four whole days, about.
This way there is a constant rotation, because it's every four hours from the moment you originally posted. It's not a refresh where everyone is posted back up at that same time. It's if you posted at 7:53:56 (I was going to put frames in haha no frames in time outside of FCP lol), then 4 hours from then your post is reposted, and then 4 more hours from then.
I can be 3 hours or 5 hours, but I think enough time should go by between each. 4 hours seems like a good number to me, for some reason.
Let me know what you think. To me that would seem a bit more fair and gives everyone a chance. But I think a new tab should exist for it so that these "repeated" posts do not take away from the already busy New tab or People I Follow tab.
I think your solution would definitely be an improvement on the situation than what is implemented as of right now. However, it would not solve the issue that the 'Promoted' page will still always be non-relevant to anyone in particular, rather just a hairy mess of whoever is paying to have their content seen.
It is by human nature to rather focus on the things that interest them. As such, once again no one would visit it often enough for it to be effective.
I have created 2 in-depth posts with a ton of similarities to the issues and solutions @raised2b has written in this post and believe it to be an effective solution to solving the problems facing Steemit right now. You can find them here :
Growing Unhappiness with Upvote Bots on Steemit
Proposal for New 'Promoted' Function
If you do give them a read, it would be really cool if you could also resteem it so that more Steemians may know about it in a rallying effort to have a better solution implemented.
Thank you!
Sure, of course. I'll have a read and see if it ignites some additional ideas. Thanks for sharing them with me. We definitely needs solutions and definitely need ideas to help these solutions come to fruition.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This would definitely be a possible solution. I think that we're both in agreement that something needs to change in order to make the promoted feature actually worth something.
There has to be some kind of underlying metric that you're getting as a return for your SBD, that's what makes promoting a post actually worth it. We shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, Google has been perfecting pay per click/view advertising on the net for years. We just have to fit it to our platform and it's an instant benefit for all involved.
I'll have to check out the contest, thanks for the nomination :)
Yes, and that metric that will make it worth, has to make it worth it even for those with little budget and who spend the bare minimum.
Exactly! There has to be something to help everyone at every budget level so that the ability to promote is always there and the return will always have a guarantee that makes it worth the investment.
So who is in charge of these things and is there a group where we can discuss ideas? I'm sure if we put our heads together with some of the people who can make these changes, we can implement something that can please the majority and test a few features as well. We can even have a transition period where we put in place the new feature, but keep the old feature and allow people to test out the new feature so we can fix bugs to it and what not.
I'd be down for joining a group of thinkers to help the development of such a feature.
Honestly, I'm not sure.
I'd recommend starting by posting on the recent Steemitblog roadmap request post and then following up by visiting Tim Cliff's recap post. I'm sure someone on either of those should be able to give some kind of suggestion?
Thanks, I went and wrote a nice long comment lol about the 3 main things I'd like to suggest: your idea with my additional thoughts, my guardian idea and the Steamitboard upvote reward idea.
Nice, go you! I'm glad you went and commented, I think it's important that we all give our thoughts and feedback. Who knows what they'll actually take from it, but at least our voices are being heard.
Exactly. Someone will see it and think about it at worst. That's a good start.