Steem Improvement Proposal, Minimum threshold for being notified of transactions / memo messaging.steemCreated with Sketch.

in #steem7 years ago (edited)

(The Attention economy)

In order to avoid spam using memo in micro transaction I suggest a UI change with new account data field recorded on the blockchain. 

Users would be able to specify a minimum in STEEM/SBD to get notified of a wallet transfer.

The default could be set at 0.01 SBD, making it cheap for everyone but relatively expensive for a spammer without much to say of value.

Some popular users who are more often transferred funds just to get their attention could set the minimum amount to 1.00 SBD to be notified.

There has been attack in the past of users and there will be more so why not turn this "loophole" into a feature ?

This feature could be implemented right away by any front-ends without any indication of threshold stored on the blockchain.


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As far as steemit.com goes, we are in the process of creating a UI for the new notifications service/system we have built. It's going to be integrated into condenser in the next month or two. It's really spiffy, including things like email or sms or mobile push notifications for savings withdrawals, power downs, key/password changes, et c.

This is a neat feature that we will consider implementing once we ship the first version.

That's very good news!

cant wait for it, this is going far. new things are about to come to open our minds and find the best solutions to fix every bug.

This is awesome news to hear. Excited to see what is to come. A solid notification system will be great to help others engage with the community in a more real time manner.

Great idea! That would reduce the blockchain size a little bit too.

I think it should be .1 , .01 is still too less

Nah, each person should be able to set their own. That would mean you would have to pay to actually send me an unsolicited message.

But what if that message if for the greater good of yours or the community as a whole? Messaging should be allowed on steemit. I am against on this 'transfer money while you talk through memo' thing. there are many things, some urgent as well, which need to be discussed. So, I guess there should be a message option with a block option so that you can block those who are spamming your message box.

Messaging is of course allowed. But people should have ownership and control of their own attention span. For a person who has a thousand people seeking their attention every day, that person should be able to filter out those who weren't willing to pay for their attention. That same person could lower their price to allow access to their attention if they personally want to make it more accessible so that they can better the community as you say.

But that should be a choice.

The idea I read a few years ago was to only charge for unsolicited (advertisement/spam) messages. Everyone else on your preapproved contact list could message at low/zero cost.

Users could earn money this way, or shut off spam completely.

I absolutely agree with this. I once reached out to a very well respected whale on Discord, unsollicited, but with a good reason and the response was very positive. But, once again, as a user you should be able to set from who you'd want to accept direct messages (only followers, everyone, or maybe even other settings). We do not want to force our most esteemed community members to suffer huge amounts of spam.

Great idea

Good, idea. I think too, that it should be 0.1 SBD. With the increase in popularity of steemit, this will attract more and more spammers in the future. Therefore including the UI with new account data field and record them on the blockchain will definitely not stop but at least refrain spam on steemit.

Even though you flagged a post of mine in the past months at the same amount of payout for excessive rewards, I will upvote this cause there is a real problem with the spam messages on the blockchain. I'll re-steem it as well for maximum exposure.

I like it. This is similar to my suggestion that posters should have the option to set a minimum required reputation level in order to comment on that post.
(Past payout)

Seems like a good idea to me... since we can't "legislate" spammers out of existence, the next best approach is to adjust the code to where any and all forms of spammish activity is disincentivized. That way the platform remains "censorship free"... but you basically have to be a complete idiot to engage in the behaviors that would otherwise have to be "regulated."

I think you are right there. You can't do this manually and you can't count on ethical behavour codes etc. You have to make it structurally unattractive to spam. The upvoting system as it works currently is too easy to automate and abuse. And that might be designed so on purpose to be more efficient but... makes it possible to abuse

Makes sense!
Good idea, I Vote YES!

Good point @transisto and In addition to my comment, and in support of your fight against spam here, I posted about the issue and mentioned you on the blog post. Feel free to check it out..wish you a blessed weekend

The answer is simple. Reduce how much content you can upload. I recommend one a day until they can remove all of the bots. They need to get on it, before they infest the whole system. Steemit is dancing dangerously in Viacom territory. A service that tried to rip off YT, lead to a lawsuit and their inevitable exit from Gametrailers.

What kind of content? Do you mean data on Steem or pictures on steemit?

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