My Response To @cryptoeagle And The New Paradigm That We Are Entering
I am going to start this post by stating that almost all of us have views that are a result of the experiences we had. Often, these are not conscience choices as much as simply beliefs that we adopted based upon the circumstances we went through. Many of these beliefs were forged due to emotionally charged events that left a lasting impression.
For this reason, especially if one never delved into the beliefs held, we have differing views about the world.
As many of you know, I am an American living in the land of milk and honey. You would think with all the benefits of this country, people would be happy. Instead, we lead the world in Rx drug addiction, have more than our fair share of domestic battery, and engage in all kinds of behavior to "not feel".
Sure there are problems in this country and we suffer under the banksters. However, make no mistake about it, compared to other areas of the world, this is a cakewalk. There are some who suffered, either themselves or their friends/family, under tyrants who make Donald Trump look like a peach. I cannot pretend to know what that is like and how it shapes someone.
That said, in one of my posts yesteday, @cryptoeagle posted a comment that took exception with what I wrote (I know the nerve of some people). In it, he expressed this....
Nothing is free. Free stuff is just an illusion designed to ensnare people into scams and socialist schemes that end up costing them valuable things such as time and freedom.
The very existence of money means there are limited resources. Money is just a way to transmit scarcity information.
All these schemes that promise unlimited resources for nothing are scams.
Be careful Task, you know I like you, so I gotta be frank with you in what I believe.
Maybe you can change my mind :)
So is he right? Do you agree with him?
Certainly this is a valid view, especially under the bankster system. We know the dual headed monster of corporations and government that is owned by the banksters will use every tactic in the book to enslave people. At the center of this is the monetary system.
To start, I take exception to this statement....
The very existence of money means there are limited resources.
There are limited resources because there are limited resources. It has nothing to do with money. Even without money, there would only be so much oil to drill for. We have only so much land. Only the gold in the ground is what exists. Timber and other raw materials are finite.
Going one step further, money itself is unlimited. At the same time, money is basically free. Yes, you read that correctly, money is basically free.
Fiat currency costs nothing especially since it was separated from gold. Fiat is nothing more than additional zeros added in a computer. Other than the cost of a bit of data entry, if it is not automated, it costs nothing.
It is also handed out for next to nothing. After the economic collapse a decade ago, the Fed handed out about $13T at almost no cost. How much of it did you get? If you are like me, none of it.
And this is where the crux lies....money is basically FREE and ABUNDANT to the ones who create it. The Fed decides to hand out money, it is given to the banksters. They, in turn, get it into circulation by having people sign notes i.e. debt. Ergo, they magically created something out of thin air and, presto, turn around and send the money where they get the best rate of return (read can charge the highest rate of interest).
You gotta love the banksters.
Which brings us to the crypto realm. Why do the banksters hate it? Because now there is competition. Money is abundant and free yet they controlled it. Hence, they were able to create the scarcity since the only way it went out is via someone taking on debt. This created limitation of the funds because without the credit/collateral, no money was received. And while they could create more zeroes on the computer, you cannot instantly manifest more assets to use as collateral.
Yet now we see a new economic paradigm being created. Cryptocurrency is magically created out of thin air just like fiat. Ironic that people attack cyptocurrency saying it has no value since it is based upon nothing. What do they think the US Dollar is based upon. "The full faith and credit of the U.S. Government". Am I the only one who does not get all warm and fuzzy at that thought? The bottom line is people do not understand where money comes from.
Cryptocurrency is the Internet coming to money. This is why I can state we are entering the Age of Abundance. Since its inception, the Internet has done two things.
A) It steamrolls the incumbents of any industry it enters
B) It creates abundance
I mentioned this in a few of my other posts. Newspapers and magazine use to be the main purveyors of information along with the nightly news. Since the advent of the Internet, information explodes while crushing many of these entities. We have more information than we can read in 10K lifetimes.
There was a time when it would cost me by the minute to call people outside a local geographic area. AT&T, MCI, and Sprint made billions each year in revenue simply by connecting people via the phone. Today, we see what the Internet did. I can interact with people anywhere in the world for nothing using a multitude of methods. Email, text, IM, social media, Skype, and cloud are just a few of the ways I can do this.
Now the Internet has come to money.
The banksters are the most powerful group on the planet. Their reign the past 100 years have placed havoc on the entire planet. Nevertheless, they have as much power to stop what is going to happen as the newspapers, magazines, record labels, and video rental stores did...none. That is why the idea that the banksters can stop Bitcoin is so preposterous. The only way to stop this is to turn the Internet off.
Where the challenge comes in is people still want to act like the banskters. It always baffles me that we want to become what we hate but I guess that is how powerful envy is.
At this point, few are aware that we are entering the Age of Abundance. Even those involved in cryptocurrencies totally miss that fact. We see it on the STEEM blockchain. Here we have one of the leading blockchains which utilizes a contribution concept yet people still have to behave like they do elsewhere. They are afraid there is not enough.
This cryptocurrency arena is attacked for being nothing but scams. The bankster controlled MSM loves to point that out. Of course, the truth of the situation means little to them. Are there scams, especially in the ICO realm? Absolutely. Many are still stuck in the old paradigm of needing to cheat others. That said, most ICOs are not a scam. In fact, the majority that fail are not scams as much as people in over their heads. Let's be honest, blockchain expertise is still lacking since we are in an industry that is only 9 years old. It is a lot easier to find someone who knows Windows inside and out than a blockchain coder (it does appear IOS programmers might be as rare). There are a lot of challenges bringing a successful ICO to market while also overcoming the issues with developing a blockchain all the while having a business idea that is feasible and faces a good chance of success.
The challenge we all have is we were reared in the world run by banksters. They controlled the minds of people with their continued propaganda. The Protestant work ethic I mentioned in my last post is a prime example. Somewhere along the way we embraced the idea that working oneself to the bone is noble. Of course, we know the elite do not do this.
We are going to see the nature of work changing. It really is that simple. Technological unemployment is a real thing. The reason why some of the giants in the technology field talk about this is because they know what is coming. They are the ones creating it. Automation is coming hot and heavy, at a pace unseen in human history. This is going to put a lot of people in a position where their means of sustenance is eliminated. I wonder when white collar people start losing their jobs in droves if the label "lazy" is placed upon them.
Unlike the bankster controlled currency, which is really debt, cryptocurrency is freedom. It is a breaking away from the control mechanism to enable people to live a much different life. We are at the early stages with many still operating from the scarcity mindset. Yet the entire world is changing. Not only is information, communications, music, and video plentiful to the point where we are overwhelmed but we are seeing moves in other areas that denote abundance. Renewable energy is making great strides. Many of the things we use are becoming digitized reducing the need for physical objects. Ideas and innovation is starting to kick into overdrive since people have a venue to start to express themselves through their creations (and nobody needing to approve of it).
What this all means is that some see what is coming. The new paradigm is rather obvious to many who follow what is going on. Technology is advancing meaning that while there will be disruption, it will also create a host of benefits for humanity. The existing power structures are under attack whether they realize it or not. Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, STEEM and a host of other cryptocurrencies are only going to get stronger. With each passing day, there is more development on each blockchain. This does not bode well for those institutions that are standing in the way of what is taking place.
In spite of all the abuse we all suffered at the hands of the banksters (and their cronies), the majority of the people do care. One of the reasons I believe humanity is about to be uplifted is that, once the whipped dog syndrome wears off, people will have a way to assist others. The challenge right now is the bankster system does not allow for those in need to receive help. Since the system is centralized, it is open to theft somewhere along the way.
Today, we are seeing the advent of direct assistance. Anyone with a cell phone that connects to the Internet is now part of the economic system. Via an app (or a web based wallet), they are now involved in banking. Thus, instead of funds being absconded, assistance can go directly to those people in need.
Those involved in crypto have a wonderful opportunity before them. The fact that we can help to change the lives of millions of people is upon us. I believe 2018 is a year to acquire tokens via as many means as possible. There is no way of telling which tokens will succeed versus those that will not. For that reason, I feel it best to do all one can to get tokens. This includes buying with fiat if one has it, bounty programs, airdrops, posting on here, and, yes, basic income programs using crypto. Many of the tokens will be garbage. However, the ones that are not, if one amasses enough different ones (along with a good amount of STEEM in my opinion) will find they are quickly at an economic level where they are living proof of abundance.
And because of that, we can also simultaneously help attack this poverty problem the banksters created.
The new paradigm is two fold....
A) We help ourselves by helping others
B) The only reason we help ourselves is to help others.
This is a radical shift from the bankster instilled belief system yet I see it occurring many times a day when certain people hit the upvote button on Steemit.com.
They are doing what they can to lift the ones around them up. It is an attitude that I see spreading.
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I only hope you find it informative, which is you did, an upvote and resteem is great appreciated.
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Hi Task,
Finally had a chance to read your response. The twins have been specially active today... One of them just had a nosebleed, he is now fine and licking a lollipop, all good :)
In the introduction you could have said I'm from Cuba so readers understand better where I'm coming from and why I'm so distrustful of anything "free" or promising of unlimited supply
Yep, "land of milk and honey" is a good description. There's another one I have seen applied to America and Americans "Rome" and "Romans" and there's a good reason why. After 240 years of an exceptionally stable democracy most Americans have gone soft and many take for granted what they have around them without realizing the stability and wealth of America is the exception, not the rule out there. Late stage Romans acted the same way until the barbarians came knocking.
See, 200 years is nothing in historical terms, cruel dictators, starvation, fear, mass murders, oppression, theft etc are the norm in history and still are for most people living on earth. What you have lived is extraordinary, an exception to the prevailing rules. Check out this Global Rich List and look yourself up, it'll give you a very good perspective.
I love America and Americans very much. You guys are very nice, welcoming, hard working people, love to have fun, always smile. America is still a land of opportunity and freedom compared to most other countries. I'd give my life to keep your way of life as it is.
So, because of this love, I have no qualms telling Americans all this in their face because I want them to get really tough and appreciate what they have and understand how simple it is to lose it.
I have no particular love for Trump (I'm a libertarian, would have preferred a libertarian candidate) but I did like it when he called African countries shitholes, which is what they really are (granted, not all, most). My own country, Cuba is another shithole, a really crappy communist one. I just wish people would stop the PC culture and start calling things for what they are so they can finally start to change.
I know, my love is tough, but it is true love, not appearances and adulation like so many of the comments below!
Now, back to the subject at hand. I believe you are referring to the wealth disparity created by banksters and government, I couldn't agree more with you there. I believe crypto currencies will contribute to changing that paradigm and give more power to the people, hopefully banksters and fiat currencies will become extinct in the future!
Now, in regards to ever inflating crypto currencies and UBI, I do have a problem with those because, yes, you can print as many of them as you want for virtually no cost, but, real life resources are limited so, rather than creating wealth, they just create pernicious inflation. I'm a more of a fan of deflating currencies as I explained on this post.
I guess this is where we differ the most, I love deflating currencies, not so much inflating ones... But we can agree to disagree, this is one of the things that makes America so great. We can (still, hopefully for 250 years more!) talk about it and have a great discussion, both gaining in knowledge, without one of us or both going to jail or getting stubbornly mad with each other like we latin people tend to do. I learn a lot from your posts all the time. You know I'm a fan and read you all the time, but, you now know me, I will speak my mind every time!
My best regards,
@CryptoEagle
To start, I presume when you say shithole you are referring to the environment created and not the people. And those places are shitholes because of the tyranny from ruthless dictators who raped and pillaged the countries over the years. You can correct me if I am wrong but that is what my understanding is of the situation.
As for Americans, spoiled and ungrateful is what I think is more accurate. Suburbia problems compared to the rest of the world yet we will still blow them up to be the end of the world. Even places that are a step above shithole, like Greece or Spain, are not places most would want to live. Those countries are being destroyed by the bankster debt which always falls on the population.
With the crypto, most are inflationary to start before leveling off and going down. Even Bitcoin was produced at an accelerating rate for a few years....now the rate is decelerating although more is still being created. The difference with a crypto is that as long as the rate is programmed into the blockchain, one cannot simply print as much as wanted. The rate is set..like STEEM is...9+% is a bit high but it is not going to deviate from the creation schedule.
The inflation situation takes us a bit off topic but we just witnessed central banks around the world (we still are since there is about $200B a month of easing still taking place) engage upon easing we never saw before. Yet we didnt see inflation. Where was it? The Fed was shooting for it for most of a decade and couldnt come close to their target even with QE1-1000. Why not?
My view simple is that inflation, long term, is no problem as things become digitized. Being in the field, you know the components that fall under the laws of IT (processing 50%, storage 33%, and software 16%) have anywhere from 16%-50% annual deflation rate. Right now 4% of the world economy falls under this with 8% in the western countries. With the advancement of AI (software) we are only going to see this accelerate.
Right now the three biggest expenses most people have are housing (3D printing), healthcare (personalized medicine/automation), and transportation (autonomous cars/ridesharing). Each is going to see a massive deflating over the next 10 years (housing might take for 3D printing to fully affect that).
Hence a great deal of the scarcity you refer to is going to be negated by both renewable energy and the digitization of many things we utilize on a daily basis. Take the automobile for example. In a decade, most like, you will be driven around by an autonomous car that is a DAO on a blockchain which is paid in some token specially designed for that. You can take as many rides as you like, even in lieu of sleeping, and it still wont inflate things.
By the way, I am glad the twins are doing well and I am sorry about the bloody nose. That is what happens though. Kids are like cats, you never know what the heck they will get into.
I agree with what @cryptoeagle said. Two things that scares the shit out of me:
When people say something is free forever;
When a company or a country doesn't value meritocracy
When a company doesn't value meritocracy... it will fail sooner or later, believe me.
Did you guys read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand?
Do you know what happened to the USA in the story (politicians didn't recognize entrepreneurs, artists, writes...) ? The goverment just stole everyone's work and the productive people started to disappear, so I don't even have to say what happened.
Speaking of meritocracy, did you catch this recently?
Also, if Ayn Rand is your jam, I recommend reading this as well.
Thanks! I'll read it soon. I also believe luck and opportunity are very important, but they only help the ones who are trying hard to achieve their goals. Having talent is important but just talent itself won't make anyone successful.
The most successful people I know achieved success because they were obsessed with it.
I had upvoted this my standard 50% to save on VP but had to undo it and redo it at 100% because if there ever was a post that deserved a 100% upvote, it's this one.
If I tried to highlight all the things in what you've said that I am in complete agreement with I'd basically have to rewrite your entire article. This is spot on, and what I'm always trying to teach people about the potential of crypto.
And it's not just the pro-bank lot that are defending the current system and utterly prejudiced against crypto.
Not too long ago I was at an international gathering of people at the forefront of socially conscious investing. There were some very wealthy do-gooders in there, and I truly believe they had good hearts. Yet when my turn to speak about my work came and I started talking about my work you should have seen how they responded. You see much of my work is helping people who come from families who've endured generational persecution (pogroms, internment, enslavement, etc.) heal from that trauma. This includes transcending the mindset of "suffer and sacrifice to earn your keep" and using things like crypto to heal from the financial legacy of oppression.
They loved the idea right up to where I started talking about crypto and its values proposition, how it is a version of money that doesn't have to serve the military or corporate interests. Then you should have seen how they hardened. Why? Well consciously I think they just think of crypto as a scam. But unconsciously, because it threatens their own dominance.
They have done quite well with the system of money that measures the value of a person's labor by their contribution to the military or corporate power structures. They've done so well that they now get to be philanthropists, doling out alms to the poor in the form of giving grants to non-profits trying to heal those harmed by the system of fiat currency. They have a lot of identity tied up in being "good people" who are responsibly using their unearned power. All and well, until you say, "well what if we could take that excess power off your hands, to that poor people don't need to appeal to you for alms?" Yeah, not so hot about that one.
Anyway, I think you and I could talk about this at length. There's so much to this. Great to find your article and will resteem it later.
Indeed, when one brings up the revolutionary concept of cryptocurrency to those who have established their wealth and power through the current system of commerce and debt their eyes do glaze over, and their minds seem to turn to concrete. Admire your courage to breach such a subject amongst them. I once spoke at a similar gathering of the very-well-to-do regarding the origins of the Fed and fiat money. By the end of my presentation one could see ice forming in the air!
LOL. You know the experience!
Did they pull out the pitchforks?
No, but they did call my employer (The Freemen Institute) that had published a book on the origins of the Fed, to try and get me fired. Didn't work. And one bold soul, after the meeting, tried to harass me into submission. That didn't work either.
You are absolutely correct. That is why we just need to carry on with pushing crypto ahead each day. That is why I am so involved in Manna and post the link at the end of my posts. Screw the people who are ingrained in the system. Lets go to the people who were left out of that. Two weeks and we distributed to 20K people. Give us a year and we might well be to 10M.
Then people will start to take notice.
I also have been getting people involved with Manna. I love how you include them at the end of all your posts. Btw, instead of resteeming you, I'm going to reference this post in the one I'm working on now.
Thank you I appreciate that.
Yes Manna is a wonderful project. The post that elicited the comment was another basic income one that is no where near as advanced as Manna. Nevertheless, the essence of what Manna is seeking to accomplish is amazing. I am so excited to see where it stands after a month. The grow is amazing.
And people are not even able to move the tokens in and out of their wallet yet due to security and firewall issues being completed. Wait until that happens and some people in third world countries start converting the tokens and actually using the money received for basic necessities.
Then you will really see things explode.
Wow, what a wonderfully expressed post! You've nailed it here. This is a new dawning. Once invented, there is no going back. You can't stop this juggernaut from gathering steam/steem ;)
So ridiculous that one group can print, then sell money for things of actual value
Still waiting for people to realize that cooperation is the way, stop taking, start giving. Abunbdance has always been available, we could easily start replenishing the land to make more food and start building more houses and working on infrastructure. But it's only if we work together instead of competing.
Obviously the utopian world is not realistic yet, we still have the mindset to get out of, we have to stop thinking things must be this way and see they can be much better for everyone.
Blockchain is almost 100% the way we can do this, decentralized systems will prevent abuse, and systems where everyone benefits will become the new normal. We can just change our concept of normal from competition to cooperation and we're there. Let's start here on steemit! There will be problems, let's work through them and get it done
I agree with you @jakeybrown.
The bankster way is divide and conquer. They are the ones who promote competition like it is natural. The misinformation out there about nature shows this. Nature values cooperation even among the most ruthless beings. The two at the top of the spectrum are man and ants. Man is the only one who competes. Ants are cooperative....that is why such small creatures can create such havoc.
Do you think man learns from this? Of course not. We believe what the banksters tell us that competition is natural. Hence that is how we behave.
Exactly, we've been experiencing programming through propaganda and media out entire lives, it's time to wake up to this, it's happening right under our noses. Once it's discovered we can determine why we believe what we do and decide if the things that come with those beliefs are things we want in this life.
As I was reading this I am reminded of the idea in quantum that talks about the fact that the particles do not stop until the observer is present. Hence, the act of observing is actually the act of creating.
We do determine what we focus upon, hence, stop the particles in the quantum field. Since most of what we do is programmed, we operate subconsciously. It is only by concentrating upon what goes on in our heads, what we believe and why, can we alter that field.
Short of that, we keep operating on the same belief system which creates the same negative results (because we were programmed by banksters).
Isn't the national debt supposed to be backed by the national lands (national parks, etc)? Maybe that's different than the backing of the dollar as the dollar is issued, not by the US government, but by the Fed, which is a private organization.
I agree that there are a lot of opportunities in crypto. Overwhelmingly so. That means failure is bound to happen because so much is going on, and it's all so new (like you said). It also means that it's important to only invest money that you afford to lose, because the risk is high. But having your money in crypto rather than in a traditional system could be the difference of getting by and getting wealthy.
Or, the government (We, the People are the government) could Constitutionally just print 21 trillion dollar coins to "pay off" the debt and tell the banksters to go take a hike!?!?!
I'm not an economist, so I can't tell you the effects of printing $21 billion. But I can tell you that this isn't the first time I've heard the idea considered. It would cause massive inflation and hurt people who already have money. One of the things I've heard is that the government could print enough money to pay the debt, plus enough to give each person $30,000. It wouldn't be worth as much because of inflation, but it would be something. And it could stimulate the economy to get rolling. A lot of wealthier people would be upset because the inflation would lower the amount they're worth. I doubt it would ever happen though.
Maybe we could just elect @AdamKokesh not-POTUS.
The only people who would be hurt by printing Constitutional money, would be those holding FRNs.
Current US population = 326,055,074
x 30k as you suggest
= about 10 trillion.
That would mean we the people would hold half the value we just gave to the banksters.
leaving the banksters 10%...
It would seem like inflation, since we are talking much larger numbers,
but in actuality it wouldn't be...
and in the process removing control of the banksters from 90% to 10%...
I've yet to see a treatise done on how crypto is completely outside of any economic thought of the past.
If there is such an animal, would someone please point me to it? TIA
it simply means the pie is going to get bigger.
I've studied a lot of Ron Paul, Mises, etc. and was a firm believer in their teachings about gold and silver being money.
I think I agree with what you are saying in the post.
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I love the idea of complete decentralization, but with this thought I also feel fear. You talk about the noble part of helping ourself to help others, and that is were all could break down.
A decentralized community, for instance like Steem, is based on trust in each other. It’s based not only on receiving, but also paying it forward. But the weak point in this chain is, that it can be abused. It can be used for only self gain. It can be used for enrichment without giving. Also, who controls blogs that are deceitful or even against the law ( like child ponagraphy?). Yes we have steem cleaners, but they are actually a kind of centralized police. And when the platform explodes it could get pulled down by its own success, as the amount of posts will be so high, it can’t be cleaned.
But let’s take it into the real world. Certain aspects of live are cebtrelized for good reason, and are government controlled, and I can’t see another option than the centralization of control, for instance: Heath care, schools, road maintenance, public libraries, any public facility. And in that same line, pharmaceutical development is completely controlled by pharmaceutical companies and the approval by government law. The approval process is centralized. Actually many quality systems are centralized, as the previous anarchy on products, including medicine and food ( 100 years ago) , was dangerous. It’s breaking my brain, to see how decentralization could be implemented into these systems, as there are flaws in it. Fit instance in pharmaceutical companies it is the pharmaceutical companies that choose which medicine to develop. Diceases that effect rich countries are on the list of pharmaceutical companies to develop, because it pays of to sell them, while there is hardly any development in specific poor country diseases. In my opinion an example of central power. But I can’t see how decentralization could work in this case. How the future could be brighter. I need to sleep on this one. Maybe some things will not or cannot change?
What do you think @takmaster4457
I hope you will read this, as it’s boggling my mind.
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This takes me back to the 5D mentality! Real change is difficult for many to foresee because this is the way it's always been... or so they think. Do you remember when 'home computers' was just an idea?, and people said, "oh, that's crazy to think every one needs a computer in their house!" If you look at how much has changed even in the last 50 years, why is it so hard for people to imagine another huge change or shift in the way money is used, created and/or distributed?
I imagine a better future like you...it's easy if you step away from the "me" mentality:)
I agree completely. People do not realize the energy shift that is taking place and what is going on. They believe they can continue as they always have. It is not true. There are too many forces which are going to change how people operate and interact. The dawn of another age is coming. We are leaving behind the struggle, turmoil, and selfishness of the past. And violence, that will be heavily frowned upon in 100 years.
I guess like most big changes, there will be those who are prepared and expectant, those that will be shocked and unbelieving, and those that will resist until they have no choice, but to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Brave New World :)
Well as we enter this age, it is bringing out both the best and worst in humanity.
We see people concerned about the environment, gay rights, care for the elderly, solving world hunger, etc...
At the same time, we see isolationist movements, tariffs, border control, thievery, racism, terrorism, fundamentalism....
Change does not come easily...many people fight it.
So true! I often wonder why the dichotomy in our world? Makes me sad really, because it's so simple to just be kind, caring and open to possibilities. I'm glad I met you here; it's reassuring, especially on steemit, to see so many like-minded, caring selfless people. I know the others are here as well, but I can distance myself from them, just like in the 'real' world.
Nice chatting! Have an awesome day:)
The paragraph on not needing physical objects really resonated with me, I've noticed that, compared to my parents, I have way less papers than they do. However, I have more computer files than they do. It's also quite apparent because they have more shelves and boxes than I do.
Part of the reason I think Steem is not catching on as fast as one would think is because of how unbelievable it seems. Beyond that, once someone thinks about it and joins, lots of people leave because they think it's too hard, when it's easier to make money for content on here than other places. They also might only see the value with money, and not the learning potential. I've talked to about fifteen people, and only two have joined, and one stopped being active all together.
They will be here at some point.
The point will come when your account is too much for them to handle.
There was a book You See it When You Believe it...
For most, it isnt until they see it that they believe it. The people you introduced to this, when you have thousands upon thousands of dollars from posting, then they will take notice.
I believe you. I think then, they will try it out. It's king of like the point when they can't not notice what's going on.