Out of the pool

in #steem6 years ago

I had many conversations over the last week talking about apps and user rewards and one of the things that is often an issue is that the focus of most rely on payment to come out of the inflation pool.

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Many of the apps fall into this category as many are inward facing but for mass adoption, they have to be attractive outwardly and should be compelling enough to be of interest to external investors that are willing to buy into the project itself, not just Steem. @steemmonsters falls into this category currently and I hope @chibera will too.

The pool is a limited resource and no matter how many staked users there are, it is distributed proportionally through the vests that draw upon it. It could be through votes or interest earned and of course the 10 percent for witnesses but, it is always limited.

The fastest way to gain access to the pool of course is to buy stake on the open market and currently there is about 53 million Steem up on exchanges at ~60 cents each. That makes a 3 dollar cup of coffee worth 5 Steem but because people have an expectation that Steem should come from the inflation pool, they drink the coffee and complain their post doesn't earn enough whilst at the same time say Steem needs more investors.

Yesterday, I bought some Steem after selling some EOS nonsense I have been holding. EOS might do great things in the future but, I don't really care enough about it to learn what it can do. I am spread too thin in life already. Holding some more Steem even to sell later makes more sense to me at this point.

But, why is it that there is an expectation that Steem must come from the pool, why do so many think that in order to earn here it can only come through posting or buying votes. Everyone wants Steem price to go up but that requires but pressure but if no one is willing to buy, the exchanges keep filling with sellers.

What many don't recognise though is that people are buying, and they are happy that others aren't because that would increase prices. Those who are often buying on the exchanges are the same people who already have draw on the pool but want to increase their investment. Those who only plan on earning from the pool are going to be pushed out of the draw and those who sell what they earn are going to always be reliant on others and at some point, the tap stops altogether.

Of course not everyone can buy on exchanges but it is interesting that people who could think that the pool Steem is somehow more valuable than the exchange Steem. They believe Steem will increase in price but not enough that they will forgo the coffee or chocolate bar. The Steem in the pool is not free either, it comes at a price to earn and a risk cost to holders to distribute abd while people talk of greedy big fish, they forget that there is a large risk if the project fails the more one holds.

I sometimes look at my purchases in the real world in Steem and consider how much work it takes to earn it from the inflation pool. A hundred euros on groceries is about 200 Steem and would take about 50 hours work to earn from the pool. I watch what I buy carefully a5 the moment. A drink at a bar in Finland is 8€ which is about 12 Steem or something like 3 or 4 hours writing. Finns drink a massive amount of Steem in a night.

When we change the perspective and reframe our view of the world, we are likely to change our behaviours to match our new paradigm. What happens when rather than expecting Steem from the pool we find new ways to get it on the exchanges like a part-time job or selling useless items that clutter the garage, would it be so bad?

One thing that tends to happen when people get 'free Steem' from the pool is that they don't appreciate it in the same way as if they bought it with fiat. How many people here have never bought Steem with external worth? I'd say quite a few and it is interesting to consider why.

Whether bought on exchanges or earned from the pool it takes work to get hold of Steem so the question becomes which is the easiest way for each individual and for many at these prices it is likely buying externally.

A hundred, thousand or million Steem has the same vested draw on the pool no matter where it comes from but ones attachment to it can differ significantly.

Taraz
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One of the things that always irks me ever so slightly is the claim made by many when steem is worth multiple dollars, is that it's too expensive to buy or they missed their chance and that were it to go less than a dollar they would snap it up.

Then it gets to less than a dollar and they don't. They just complain about the price yet it is a perfect buy point. I am certainly not saying anyone has to buy but there are a large group of people who just plain shit to seek approval and never follow through. They just complain when it's high that is too late to build their account by buying and complain when it's low that the platform is doomed.

If everybody bought a little it would certainly be reflected in the price.

so the cycle goes

Lol, very true!

A coffee a day into crypto for a year would make most people millionaires in ten years at this point.

And that would still leave the likes of me four more coffees a day to enjoy!

I think that more of the community needs to think about this as we have come to that point where it is more accessible to many. While the thought of growing without investing money is great and welcomed if you can, it is part of the problem as it tends to be part of the entitlement issue we have experienced. What they don’t realize is that the time invested is just as important and if it is spent not only focusing on earning but instead adding value to the community it would not only improve the price over time but also the experience.

What they don’t realize is that the time invested is just as important and if it is spent not only focusing on earning but instead adding value to the community it would not only improve the price over time but also the experience.

I think this too and often a lot of the people who don't find community here are the ones who are waiting to be fund. It takes effort to be in any community.

I just purchased 59 STEEM with fiat today. It might not seem much for most but considering I do not have a lot of money to spare it means a lot to me.

At 0.57$ it is definitely a steal in my opinion and I just could not wait anymore.

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Depending on circumstance it is a little or a lot and at the next bullrun it is likely to pay off well. At that point, you could sell a bit and take your initial investment back and still be up by many times.

I've probably bought 99% of my Steem. I'm far more interested in getting "my stuff" adopted than any monetary return, which of course requires people to read it at a first step. As a noob I thought it would be a good idea to have over 1000 SP, so bought that. It made no obvious difference except for a few pennies here and there. I was curious how some people who posted rubbish had reps of over 70 (not you tarazkp!). After 7 weeks of careful posting and commenting, probably a few hours a day, my rep was 35. It seemed that pretty much everybody had a rep of 60+, and that was the starting point to not be ignored. Part of this must be from early participation in Steemit etc.

Then I discovered bid bots. Whammo blammo, instant rep increase from 35 to 60 in a week, at a cost similar to my initial 1000 SP. It still doesn't mean anyone actually reads my posts, let alone uses my (free) stuff in their lives, but it seems like getting to square one.

And it's not even really a sunk cost, money down the drain. The money just moves from one asset class (fiat, ethereum etc) to another (SP essentially), and it can be slowly recovered through powering down again if desired.

Then I discovered bid bots. Whammo blammo, instant rep increase from 35 to 60 in a week, at a cost similar to my initial 1000 SP. It still doesn't mean anyone actually reads my posts, let alone uses my (free) stuff in their lives, but it seems like getting to square one.

Often the people who use them don't engage in the community and expect eyes on. It can help with eyes but if one doesn't concurrently put the time in, it means that there is very little value other than the financial ROI. I think that as communities become a feature in the next 6 months there is much more chance to develop niche content areas.

And it's not even really a sunk cost, money down the drain. The money just moves from one asset class (fiat, ethereum etc) to another (SP essentially), and it can be slowly recovered through powering down again if desired.

For most, it is going to pay off very well in the next run. There is an opportunity cost of other investments but that also has to be placed alongside ability to earn on top here relatively risk free too.

It is rather cheap but can't take advantage at the moment unfortunately so it is blood , sweat and tears route for me for now.

Nothing wrong with out of the pool but it has to be tempered with a reality of how it functions rather than expectation of receiving. You know that though so there is no problem in the approach.

I bought a bit of STEEM weeks ago because I promised myself 'if STEEM ever gets below one dollar...' - It's just too big of a chance to grab some of these valuable tokens.

For me it worked the other way around by the way: I never spend my earned STEEM (time is the most precious thing in the world! I don't spend the STEEM I had to hand in my time for!) but I could suddenly spend a few STEEM since they were only euros 'the day before'.

Anyway, we talked about this before, the STEEM economics are an interesting thing and I've never thought as much about money, value and rewards as the last year. Every time I can choose between spending a euro or spending a STEEM I choose euro - they only lessen in value and don't give me inflation rewards while I let them sit in my wallet ;-)

I never spend my earned STEEM

I am the same, it is more valuable than gold to me. I think it is the work I have put in to have it.

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