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RE: A Way to Neutralise Bid Bots On Steemit/Steem - While Still Allowing Votes To Be Bought

in #steem6 years ago

This would make the Steem platform just another reflection of the pyramid/hierarchic system we see offline where the big banks control most societal activity to some extent - this is the opposite of decentralisation.

This is already the situation, and bidbots are not its cause.
They only introduced a new entrepreneurial socio-economical class to steemit - bidbot owners.
Most of them are corrupt, and a few are honest.

The 'ninja mined' Steem held in the @Steemit account is seen to be being used to solve the platforms problems. Ninja mining is a technique that is not respected in the crypto world

If the steemit account was the only account that ever had premined steem, it would have made more sense.
The delegations and tiny gifts to new joiners have to come from somewhere.

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This is already the situation, and bidbots are not its cause.

To some extent, yes - but they surely exploit the situation just like the banks and 'lenders' do offline.

If the steemit account was the only account that ever had premined steem, it would have made more sense.
The delegations and tiny gifts to new joiners have to come from somewhere.

My understanding is that the bulk of the premined steem went to steemit and related accounts (though I don't have any accurate data on that).

To some extent, yes - but they surely exploit the situation just like the banks and 'lenders' do offline.

They use whichever means available for them.
Same as any "rational" entity does.
You call it exploitation.
Is it any more exploitative than paying to some of these bots and enjoying some nice ROI?
Or renting to them and becoming a shareholder?
This is the game, and it would have probably evolved in a fair system too, which Steem is not.

My understanding is that the bulk of the premined steem went to steemit and related accounts (though I don't have any accurate data on that).

How did the whales become whales then?

They use whichever means available for them.
Same as any "rational" entity does.
You call it exploitation.

Some of what you call 'rational' is actually psychopathic in many instances - in fact, totally criminal - however, they use their 'whale' status to control the courts and government where necessary. This has been proven over and over again.

Is it any more exploitative than paying to some of these bots and enjoying some nice ROI?

Absolutely, yes it is. The former involves deliberately causing imbalance an in order to exploit it and limit the reach of others - while the latter involves simply using whatever methods are available to attempt to resolve the situation (Which will not work because it actually feeds the cause of the problem). To think that the two are the same is like thinking that a fisherman and a fish are the same in their level of exploitation.

How did the whales become whales then?

I don't have full data on that, some were developers at Steemit as I understand it - who presumably mined. Some joined later as I understand it who were not part of Steemit, but only once a large amount had already been mined.

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