Thought experiment: SBD-only rewards at high SBD price

in steem •  2 months ago

The Steem blockchain has an interesting feature when SBD debt is too high. If the SBD debt exceeds 2% of Steem market cap, author rewards split starts deviating from 50% SP + 50% SBD, producing some Steem instead of SBD. At 3.5%, it is 50% SP + 25% SBD + 25% Steem. At SBD debt hitting and exceeding 5%, all SBD production stops, and author rewards are given out at 50% SP + 50% Steem.

So why not have the reverse? If traders are going to pump SBD ignorantly, we should fully exploit the opportunity. Let's say if SBD hits $2, SP rewards start diminishing, replaced by SBD. At $3.5, if it is 25% SP + 75% SBD. At $5, it can be 100% SBD rewards.

Of course, this is far more complicated than the SBD debt balancing feature, as it would need witnesses to signal SBD price, and a rewrite of the code to decrease SP production. If feasible, this could even extend to witness and curation rewards.

This will have several benefits -

  1. Authors will earn more, fully leveraging the opportunity of highly priced SBDs. It should also attract more people to join Steem.
  2. Steem production will reduce significantly, thus reducing the expected rate of inflation (supply increase). If the high SBD price is sustained, it's going to start putting buying pressure on Steem due to a lower-than-expected supply. In short, higher Steem price.
  3. On a related note, I see a lot of authors sell SBDs and buy Steem. This would also be accelerated two folds, again leading to a higher Steem price.
  4. A way to try and achieve a better SBD peg. Of course, this won't be very successful as even if doubled SBD production is too slow to retain the peg. It will happen eventually, but not fast enough to call SBD a stable coin.

It'll basically be a win-win situation for everyone. Well, except those ignorant crypto traders who were buying the SBD highs.

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Thank you for the reply

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Not even sure what you are getting at.

I agree with your idea...

Very interesting. That was new to me. Where can one read about the feature when SBD debt is too high? In the white paper or blue paper?

Maybe I have an intersting chart for you. I made a post about SBD price, SBD supply and inflation. https://steemit.com/steem/@sevenseals/new-chart-steem-dollar-price-and-steem-dollar-supply-calculation-of-sbd-inflation

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Thanks @liberosist

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Was your offer adopted?
Is this why I see miniscule SP rewards when choosing the 50%/50% ?

Is 100% SP always as beneficial as a 50%/50% in the moment of reward redemption?
Only difference being the same USD value distributed only in STEEM?

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SBD is slightly keeping or losing its price, while Steem is hitting new hights today. Steem is at around 50% of SBD. Remember when it was worth 14% of SBD and all traders were hording Steem?

Mhh, I think you are too hard on those "ignorant crypto traders". After all the high SBD price is not really hurting the platform (maybe the 3 merchants we have here), quite the opposite we get 5x our rewards in USD.

There might also be the case that SBD provides certain utility through its properties (scarce, limited mining, 1-Dollar floor) that give it an additional Use Case that was not originally intended.

I dont think we should fight the SBD high, just enjoy it :D

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I agree. The "ignorant" crypto traders are just doing their thing -- and it's not like we're not benefitting from it. Sometimes, we Steemians can claim unnecessarily hard that the money doesn't matter to us. Well, it sure as heck matters to me and this SBD pump has been a literal lifesaver this holiday -- and I use the literal meaning of the term "literal".

@liberosist, the issuance ratio is actually dynamically adjusted based on the witnesses signaling. 100% SBD issuance sounds tempting, however I think this is unsustainable as it would break the 5% "debt-to-ownership" ratio that is outlined as a balanced state for the STEEM economy in the whitepaper.

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At this stage, it is less than 0.5%. It would take years of high SBD pricing and a collapse of Steem for this to happen. Point taken, though. If the debt exceeds 2% of course it should switch back to producing Steem.

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Yes agree that all reasons dropped by you will surely improve the steem blockchain, but having a 100%sbd would probably lead to converting of sbd into other crypto coin with the fear of the price dropping down overnight and thus creating less conversion from steem to steempower, due to the absent of steem been generated anymore and users not willing to convert sbd to steem.

Which I believe is responsible for the reward we see today.

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On the other hand, if that's what users were doing, the Steem Power will later be sold off as Steem. So might as well get it done with while SBD price is high.

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I guess thats the truth

This is such a briliant analysis.

Great job bro

I think it makes sense

When I was last posting on Steemit some months back wasn't the price of Steem was suppose to tend towards being worth $1? I guess I have a lot of catching up to do. Thanks for the carefully laid out info!

Since you only bothered to downvote my comment, at full power, but not leave a reason, would you care to do so here?

Why does the truth hurt your little feelers?

The Steem blockchain has an interesting feature when SBD debt is too high. If the SBD debt exceeds 2% of Steem market cap, author rewards split starts deviating from 50% SP + 50% SBD, producing some Steem instead of SBD. At 3.5%, it is 50% SP + 25% SBD + 25% Steem. At SBD debt hitting and exceeding 5%, all SBD production stops, and author rewards are given out at 50% SP + 50% Steem.

Where did you find out about this? And shouldn't their reward splitting selection thingy have this disclaimer on it?

Its very difficult to check it on daily basis, as already SP and SBD concept designed to reduce the speculations and SBD requires a combination of a reliable price feed.

"On a related note, I see a lot of authors sell SBDs and buy Steem. This would also be accelerated two folds, again leading to a higher Steem price."

I do that, I think steem can have a big rise next year

So I guess this is up for the witnesses?

I agree with your idea thank you

This is a great idea @liberosist Steem has allowed for the unique opportunity to balance its own economy through the use of the three different types of currency, I would like to see it fully utilised especially with the latest increases in value

I think it's pretty interesting and a good idea. I hope this decision will be made.

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I think it makes sense and it would help people at SteemIt obtain more Steem power at an accelerated pace at least during times of inflated SBD values.

I agree with you. My understanding is that Steemit users represent about 15% of total steem supply. The speculators betting on Steem Dollar are ignorant fools (or else genius market manipulators playing some game way beyond my understanding). My guess is Steem is still underpriced at $7-$8 because eventually the Steem Dollar speculators will smarten up and switch that money over to Steem. I still think the system should allocate some rewards to SP because SP represents a long term commitment to the platform.

Good post you...

I know that 10 days is a long time in Crypto land, but according to coinmarketcap STEEM is 1.53 billion and SBD is 45.6 million market cap. That puts SBD at almost 3%. Shouldn't we be seeing STEEM payouts now according to your understanding of how it works?

A very good read. I am learning more about SBDs day by day.

Regards,

@jhezontheroad

This is interesting suggestion and analysis of SBD / Steem price behavior. But I am confused as to what exactly is SBD debt? This is the first time I've heard of SBD debt.

nice profile pic! the eye of god! :)
I wonder how is people getting so much money on steemit?
I'm doing, at least from my perspective, pretty good posts and putting a lot of time and effort but not getting so much out of it... maybe if you have time you can check my profile and give me some advice!
I would really appreciate it...
thanks!
good luck!
Lucian

Each day when I think I've got a fairly good idea of steemit, a new area of development emerges out of nowhere

All I know is I enjoy the sbd rewards :D