Are the tribes the solution for steem or are we dispersing the force?

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The appearance of the tribes in the steem chain has aroused the interest of many people, there is a general enthusiasm in the participation in the different existing tribes so far, and surely, knowing the Blockchain economy there are other projects of this type that will be put underway in the near future.


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Given this existing reality, there is a debate that I would like to bring to the discussion, Do the tribes really favor the strengthening of steem and steemit? Are they bringing a beneficial contribution to this ecosystem, or are they becoming an alternative to the STEEMIT platform?

What are the tribes?

To try to understand what is happening and how it affects the proliferation of tribes to the chain, it is necessary to find some definition of TRIBU:


The word tribe is derived from the same Latin word and its meaning is “three,” since there were three tribes that formed Ancient Rome when its foundation was produced by Romulus in 753 BC, with a different genetic origin, and that they agglutinated in them a great amount of villages. It was apparently Romulo himself who, according to his different ethnic origin, grouped the population of the new city into the following tribes: that of the Ramnes, whose chief was Romulus, brought together Latinos; the Ticies or Titians whose chief was King Tito Tacio, were sabinos; and the Luceres, with headquarters recognized in Lucio Tarquino, were of Etruscan origin. This differentiation is currently controversial because modern authors assume that the distribution in tribes was not racial but that it responded to religious, military and institutional needs.

https://deconceptos.com/ciencias-sociales/tribu


Group and social and political association of primitive peoples and integrated by a group of people who share an origin, a language, customs and beliefs and who obey the same boss.


Returning to the context of steemit, for some time projects have been launched that aim to group a number of content creators and communities that make life on the platform, to associate them according to common interests, issues of publication and even the language of publication, using the powerful Steem Engine tool to create your own token that allows you to generate revenue for rewards and sustain each particular project.

The new tribes seem to be an appendix of steemit, since they have an identical interface to this platform and we can access them through our steemit keys, and with each vote you are rewarded with the native token of each tribe, claim it in Esteem Engine, burn them to increase your voting power and cure content or put them on the market to sell them and generate income.

Tribes that I know and in which I participate.

The best known for me at the moment are three:

PalNet.io

Palnet (PEACE - ABUNDANCE - LIBERTY) It began as a project to support the minnows, to evolve the tribe we know today, maintaining its healing project but creating its own token, all the information about PalNet I think we can find it summarized in these publications:

The simplest way to explain it is to think of it as just another layer on top of the Steem blockchain. This isn't a fork, we don't have a new chain, the witnesses etc. They are all the same. Everything you do on palnet will also reflect on steemit / steempeak / busy etc. That includes posting, commenting, resteeming and voting.


EsteemLeo.

From Palnet I believe that we can use the same definition to describe the tribes that follow, we could say that they are one more layer in the steemit chain, and that the actions performed in one interface will be reflected in the other, with the unlike the rewards will be in the native token of each tribe.

Something interesting to note is that steemleo is a tribe directed to investors and business issues are mostly treated, this makes people who publish in this space or with the steemleo label address investment-oriented issues, business projects etc.


HispanoHablantes

The same happens with the tribe of the Hispanic community, another layer to the steem chain, what makes the difference in this tribe is that here people are grouped by language in the publication and not by specific publication issues, all those that you publish in Spanish using the Spanish tag automatically your publication will be reflected in the interface of this tribe.

For more information here I leave the publication of the launch of this new tribe.


Conclusion

The arrival of the tribes to the steem and steemit chain, in my opinion brings a new hopeful movement to this ecosystem, generates new and more opportunities for content creators, making it easier to place each person in a specific niche what it was difficult with the great ocean of steemit, that is, the contents, common interests etc, etc. are organized in an organized way.

I really think that the tribes are an enhancer of the chain and steemit, since they are generating more interest in the creation of content, however, with all this the question that gives rise to the title of this publication arises and I want you to share with me your Opinion in relation to this debate: Are all these tribes being dispersed? if so Does this not affect steem prices?

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Brother @fucho80: first of all let me congratulate you on this magnificent post that you have brought us today.

The theme you have selected, caught my attention from the first moment. I consider it a reflection of great importance that all of us should do.

Do the tribes really favor the strengthening of steem and steemit? Are they bringing a beneficial contribution to this ecosystem, or are they becoming an alternative to the STEEMIT platform?

I believe that the tribes are enhancing in an unprecedented way the benefits, capabilities and reach of Steemit.

In my opinion there is no dispersion. On the contrary, we now have a concentration of users in the areas that are really matters of interest to each one. The tribes are creating "niches" that allow an audience to concentrate and search for the publications they like. Previously, with the use of tags, finding a specific publication was very difficult, now with the tribes we can go directly to a group of creators who maintain a common theme.

As you mentioned, the tribes have their own interface very similar to the steemit interface. They also have their own tokens.
We can see these tokens as pure STEEM, in fact they are. So, we are facing a marketing of STEEM itself. This can only favor our native currency and increase its value since we are now having more investment.

Brother @juanmolina thank you for those wonderful words, coming from you are very important to me

I believe that the tribes are enhancing in an unprecedented way the benefits, capabilities and reach of Steemit.

Although there are many things to analyze yet, just as you think that the tribes are improving the platform and awakening a new interest in this ecosystem, I see it as a kind of a new direction in the direction of this project.

On the contrary, we now have a concentration of users in the areas that are really matters of interest to each one.

This was one of the things that I noticed when developing my research, which was once very difficult when we arrived here, the tribes are simplifying it, you just embark on the project that you most fit or like and you will surely advance without major problems, due to that you will meet a group of people with similar interests to yours, for me that is very good.

We can see these tokens as pure STEEM, in fact they are. So, we are facing a marketing of STEEM itself. This can only favor our native currency and increase its value since we are now having more investment.

Wooo friend, we all hope that these projects will benefit our currency and have a positive impact on prices. If what is said about crypto is true, that the price or success of a currency is based on the interest or confidence of the people, I believe that the tribes are awakening an important interest towards the steem.

Thanks friend!

Hello @fucho80.

I really like your publication the way you describe the opportunities offered by the new tribes for the strengthening of steemit is very easy to digest and you are very right when you say it is hopeful, and of course it is because you have diversity to identify with any of them and best of all you can have more interaction.

greetings friend.

Hello my dear teacher @lanzjoseg, thanks for coming.

I really like your publication the way you describe the opportunities offered by the new tribes for the strengthening of steemit is very easy to digest and you are very right when you say it is hopeful, and of course it is because you have diversity to identify with any of them and best of all you can have more interaction.

It is interesting, and one of the strengths of the tribes is the diversity of options for grouping by locating in the niche that best suits you or the one that you handle best since the interaction is much better when those involved know the same topic.

Thanks brother.

Tribes tend to heal the steem system that has been poisoned to its core.

Let's take how difficult it is to even have a successful blog on Steem now: even if you manage to have 100 STU (which is among the best I've seen recently) you're only in for what... 10 cents. Nice, but you won't be feeding yourself with that. Tribes have tried to get away from the control that's been pressuring Steem's price so far, and in some ways, encourage bloggers there.

Then there are the downvote whales. By creating their own tribes, many have thought of it as a way to get away from the whales that downvote you just because you dared to say something against their own ideas. It's not a complete censure (posts are still there) but it's a moral attack & even a personal attack in many ways, that depress the newcomers who arrive in steem.

So I'd say that we're not dispersing, but in many cases, dodging problems. It's a good thing that people react & regroups... however, I feel like it's also dangerous because it kind of means we have somewhat abandoned making the steem blockchain a friendlier and fairer place.

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Hi, could you tell me a little more about those downvote whales? Sounds a bit worrying and, yes, that's a kind of censorship, very much like YouTube demonetizing creators just because they express certain opinions.
Are the downvote whales guided by a particular ideology? Leftist progressive?

If any ideology guides them it would be a "myself-ology" if they catch you having ideas they don't have, they will downvote you. There's also the downvote bots, which put you on their lists for reasons that you don't always know. Never happened to me personally, but you can see these bots on some people's comment, they will just downvote because they have the power to do so.

This Post is quite right.
This one explains how to fight it

The simplest search on google gives lots of results of "flag war" like the ones I've put in in the example. steemcleaners is a "grey zone" and some are already thinking of doing downvote bots for after HF21... so meh, that's kind of scary to me.

The simplest search on google gives lots of results of "flag war" like the ones I've put in in the example. steemcleaners is a "gray zone" and some are already thinking of doing downvote bots for after HF21 ... so meh, that's kind of scary to me.

Well, the situation is really worrying, it is necessary to know more about it, I really had not read anything about it. Thanks for the info.

While it is worrying, it also explains why there are so much communities & tribes, and why circles of "people who know each other" are being formed. The natural response to A-rank bullies is more often than not to group with people who have equivalent power.

So more often than not, these tribes start with a whale that decides to protect their own friends (normal) and extend his protection to people who are like-minded to him/her.

In many aspects, it is a really human attack, and very human response, and why I say that tribes heal the system that has been poisoned. By selling their tokens, the tribes acquire the steems and power necessary to "counter-vote" the downvoters.

Now I'm worried about where that leads, but it's also not that bad. Because both downvote bots, and counter-measures will need to buy steem to escalate one against the other. Means that the buying pressure will rise.

Thanks for the info and the explanation. It's very very important and I knew nearly nothing about it. !tip

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Hi, it is indeed important, but as I've said just above, tribes are an effective system that counters this. You may see my full response above if it can give you a bit of hope :)

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Hello dear @djennyfloro, thanks for your comment. I think a great analysis of the current situation of steemit and maybe you're right.

So I'd say that we're not dispersing, but in many cases, dodging problems. It's a good thing that people react & regroups ... however, I feel like it's also dangerous because it kind of means we have somewhat abandoned making the steem blockchain a friendlier and fairer place.

Your approach makes a lot of sense, it is possible that the creation of the tribes is an escape valve against how sufficent it is to have to create content, do the best, make an extraordinary effort and not see it re-reflected in the rewards, that is frustrating, although it seems that we forget the fight, however, it is possible that the fight has evolved.

Thank you very good contribution!

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Great article my friend @fucho80. Voted & Resteemed :)

You explained the concept of "Tribes" very well. I am sure many people don't know about this. I also didn't know about #palnet and #steamleo - thanks to our friend @crypto.piotr , who introduces these platform to me.

I didn't know about HispanoHablantes. I will surely check it.

Thanks for such a nice article @fucho80. It is informative & interesting as well.

Thanks friend @flash07 for your comment.

You explained the concept of "Tribes" very well. I am sure many people don't know about this. I also didn't know about #palnet and #steamleo - thanks to our friend @crypto.piotr, who introduces these platform to me.

Friend thanks for those encouraging words, I knew something about Palnet but Steemleo knew it thanks to our friend @crypto.piotr and basically embedded in these tribes thanks to his advice, in short, the tribes are an excellent alternative within steemit.

I didn't know about HispanoHablantes. I will surely check it.

This tribe is recent, now they are launching an aidrop, you must make some investment if you want to eat well and if not only using its label and content in Spanish, you can token for healing.

Thanks friend, it's nice to have you here.

I am using the new tags for some of these tribes, but really have not investigated further. I have at least 30 tokens now in steem-engine and also have not looked into that too much.

I like the idea of separating into groups based on our interests and also using dApps that might pay for our posts on them with upvotes. Steemit is such a mess that I abandoned it for posting almost one year ago and stopped using it entirely a couple of months ago.

I feel like the steem blockchain is the strength here. Good dApps and tribes will succeed and thrive and the bad ones will disappear over time. I am not an early adopter and so I will wait a few more months to investigate which ones are the winners. I have some friends in discord who are really excited about all of this and pay attention when they mentions good tags or places to post. But I am not going to be the person to help it all get sorted out.

Hello my dear @fitinfun, thanks for sharing your comment.

I like the idea of ​​separating into groups based on our interests and also using dApps that might pay for our posts on them with upvotes.

I believe that as long as we separate into groups and there is a true commitment in all the members of the group we will succeed, but if not then we will fail. Discipline and commitment I think is the key.

Steemit is such a mess that I abandoned it for posting almost one year ago and stopped using it entirely a couple of months ago.

Unfortunately, many people have been the same, they were disappointed of steemit and stopped publishing, I was tired of trying without success I was about to leave the platform, then I met @crypto.piotr project hope arose and here I am working hard, I believe that many projects such as #PROJECTHOPE that support the creators and thus avoid desertion are needed, I am sure that resources exist but the will to support others is needed.

I feel like the steem blockchain is the strength here. Good dApps and tribes will succeed and thrive and the bad ones will disappear over time.

Many people are going to the dApps to stay in the chain, hopefully the tribes contribute and avoid the departure of many here.

Thank you friend, it is really good to be able to read your comments, they always bring something interesting. Go ahead and consider rewriting in steemit

Dear @fucho80, it is very interesting post, but you can find more info about tribes here:
https://steemit.com/palnet/@intellihandling/what-we-got-from-these-scot-tribe-steemit-clones
I am doing my checking, anyway please be aware that on the steem-engine blockchain, if you send some coins to a not exisisting account, the coins will be lost, not like in steemit where the transaction will be aborted....

Hello my dear @intellihandling, thanks for your comment and for the information you bring us, I will surely visit this publication that you recommend ...

I did not understand well about checking the coins, if you can explain it to me a little, I appreciate it.

Dear @fucho80, i mean that i would like to see how they are going to reward in order to make in future other post with description of every tribe, you know now i am in seven of them...:))

@fucho80, If we see the idea 💡 of Decentralisation then in my opinion Tirbes will going to play effective roles because in a way in Decentralised Ecosystem if we see one Flow then there will be no space for the diversification in distribution, but due to Tribes or Communities, many are getting the opportunity to engage effectively and to be part of the distribution, which will going to add long term effect on Steem Blockchain in my opinion. Stay blessed.

Dear @fucho80

Tribes are surely on the rise right now and it's so very hard to figure out if we're actually on the right direction or will those tribes "disperse the force".

Definetly steem-engine tokens and tribes brought some fresh engagement, however I wonder how long will it last before we will stop paying attention to them.

Let's have a look at PAL or LEO. Selling pressure on both is increasing faster than new demand is being created. Their marketing strategy based on free airdrops created to many "bad actors" who's mindset is simple: milk that cow as long as it's alive.

Upvote on the way :)

Yours
Piotr

Hello dear @crypto.piotr, thanks for such a valuable comment brother.

Definetly steem-engine tokens and tribes brought some fresh engagement, however I wonder how long will it last before we will stop paying attention to them.

Exactly, at this moment we are living a crush at first sight, as if it were a fashion but you do not know how long it lasts, it takes the commitment of many people so that projects like these fulfill their mission, we have to wait to see what tribe It is successful or if all this set of projects comes to a happy conclusion.

Let's have a look at PAL or LEO. Selling pressure on both is increasing faster than new demand is being created. Their marketing strategy based on free airdrops created to many "bad actors" who's mindset is simple: milk that cow as long as it's alive.

Everything depends on the "Actors", I think that the success of a tribe or a community in this ecosystem will depend on the commitment of all those involved, while, less opportunists join is much better, the problem is that it is very difficult, if not impossible control that.

Very good friend your observation and very relevant your comment, thank you very much for sharing with us your time and knowledge.

As you say, the main thing it brings is organization.

Also authors who see the opportunity to be taken into account and that their work is valued better.

The price of steem was already low before the creations of the tribes. Maybe there are other reasons, I think many know them.

Hello my dear @yonnathang, thanks for coming.

Also authors who see the opportunity to be taken into account and that their work is valued better.

Okay, the fact that the tribes group people around private interests makes people write for a specific community that knows how to value the type of work this person does.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Tribes are a wonderful addition so long as we keep the strength and independence of individually driven content. I can not say I have ever known this on Steemit without coming in as a whale or some fame, so collaboration might be our solution.

Hello my dear @machnbirdsparo, thanks for coming.

I can not say I have ever known this on Steemit without coming in as a whale or some fame, so collaboration might be our solution.

I believe that the key to success in this platform and in each tribe is collaboration, mutual commitment, if we sail in isolation we have little chance of success, unless you are a whale, otherwise we need to unite more and climb together, for this , the tribes are a great help.

I was a big fan of Steemjet. Now I wonder what happened to it.

Hola @fucho80, la idea del uso de la etiqueta #spanish es para promover contenidos en español, digamos que el tema principal del post esté en ese idioma, esperamos y consideres la idea del comentario para próximas publicaciones.
Entra a la lista de tag para que escojas las más apropiadas dándole click aquí.
Puedes indagar algo más sobre las etiquetas entrando por https://steemit.com/trending/ y agregando después de la barra oblicua ( / ) la palabra que desees usar como etiqueta para ver si existe.
En este post puedes leer algo más sobre el uso apropiado de las etiquetas.
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Hola mi estimado amigo @acostaeladio, gracias por tu participación, muy buena acotación hermano. Bienvenido!...

Entiendo algo acerca de las etiquetas, solo que use esta deliberadamente porque en la publicación estoy haciendo referencia a las tribus, y dentro de ellas la de los Hispano Hablantes. Gracias por la información y las recomendaciones que me haces, las voy a tener en cuenta hermano.

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I think tribes are a positive step in the right direction but only time will tell for sure. Great post best one on tribes I have seen

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Friend @steemingmark, thanks for visiting this post.

I think tribes are a positive step in the right direction but only time will tell for sure.

Yes, I also see the tribes as something positive within the chain, it is necessary that all the actors collaborate so that these projects are maintained and can grow.

Great post best one on tribes I have seen

Thank you for the appreciation brother, this drives us to continue working hard.

Yes exciting that they are still in early stages anything could happen. Thanks for your reply

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They are great but I just think too many of them will make the whole thing useless. Too many tribes coming out and at the end, users become confused

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Than what is Weku? It was there long before the tribes popped up. There are so many by now I can not even figure out where to find what or good information about it.

About Weku so many complained as it used the same interface...🤔

Perhaps the tribes save Steemit or Palnet takes over because of the better conditions and it's variety. All the others are more specific and to be honest I doubt if that is a plus. The content is not better it's all the same and most is bad or copied from somewhere.