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RE: Where do we take STEEM from here?

in #steem4 years ago

IMHO ; ) If we continue to focus on:

The quality of the pictures: are they blurred or are every details crystal clear visible?
The number of pictures: is there only one photo with a line of text or made the author the effort to deliver more? (I know at times also one single picture can be great.)
Formatting of the post, orthography and grammar.
Does the author make his posts interesting by offering own thoughts, ideas, photos, paintings, music etc. or does he only uses external sources (if photos or ideas aren't his own ones, then of course a source is still better than none at all)?
Does the author give sources to support his assertions (which is especially important in science) or just claims anything without sources and logical explanations?

We are sunk.
The idea is to let people engage at whatever level they are at.

If we flag due to disagreement of rewards, we are sunk.

If we allow flags for differences of opinion we are sunk.

Flagging for plagiarism, stolen identities etc is necessary.
@ haejin and @ ranchorelaxo were berniesanders creations for the purpose of normalizing flags.

With all the drama he started using the haejin account again so I made a comment with my joe.public account saying what the fuck are you doing bernie lol. He replied with his berniesanders account with a ''haha you are a mother fucking retard'' It was nice to get another confirmation without any flags.

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If we allow flags for differences of opinion we are sunk.

I agree that flagging for differences of opinion is detrimental.

I disagree that Haejin Lee is a creation of @berniesanders.

I dont mind the disagreement : ) He has had that site for a long time!

How do you feel about disagreement with rewards?
We still have themarkymark flagging steembounty because they get $3
https://steemworld.org/@themarkymark he last flagged them 3 days ago

How do you feel about disagreement with rewards?

Hm, I am currently flagging all trending posts on HIVE with a pending reward greater than 80 dollars to send some of that money back into the rewards pool. :)
In case of @haejin I also disagree with his rewards, so yes, to a certain degree I am in favour of these kind of flags.

The mistake bernie made was after I was commenting on ALL of his abusive spam, he decommissioned that group of accounts but started flagging the same people with the ranchor and haejin accounts the next day.
I keep a very close eye on things when i think the situation calls for it.

https://steemit.com/newsteem/@joe.public/pyzmt9

That is the link to the first public comment I made about it to preparedwombat. here is the txt in case you have trouble getting to the comment with the info.

Hey @ preparedwombat this may be amusing or of interest to you.

You may want to take a look at @ transisto's posts.
I was aware that bernie loved to taunt him so I went looking for when he last flagged @ transisto
Then I looked at who started flagging him after that day. Guess who started flagging him? lol yep @ ranchorelaxo and @ haejin

This is the link to the last flag by bernie of to the @ transisto's posts
https://steemd.com/bitcoin/@transisto/great-ressource-by-pieter-wuille-to-learn-about-and-test-bitcoin-miniscripts

and it took a few more posts before he was being attacked by @ ranchorelaxo and @ haejin
That on its own does not mean anything at all, but it is an interesting coincidence don't you think?

Check it out if you want. The original post was:
https://steemit.com/newsteem/@preparedwombat/the-haejin-and-ranchorelaxo-travelling-fun-show

My comments are not visible but if you click the link to my my comment without opening in a new tab it should work.

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Bernie had previously been flagging preparedwombat
I made a mistake it was not the next day, it was two or three I can not remember exactly.

@transisto had flagged @haejin quite often, and I think that explains the retaliation flaggs of @ranchorelaxo and @haejin well enough ...

I know I am right and if you can be bothered to go back six months and look who Justin (bernies real name) was flagging with his prominent attack accounts and who took over after that, you would would know for sure as well.
But I was thinking that ranchorelaxo was one of his accounts right from the beginning when it was initiated.
But people will believe what feels comfortable. I am ok with that.

bloom is a retard in this department....

you can use my downvoting for purely malicious/personal reasons, as an example!

Maybe it would be better just to attack his alt account?

I have a cunning plan.....

Are you going to share it with me?

I would if it was properly formulated....still ironing out some wrinkles...lol

I have not read the terms of service on hive.
My guess would be that they are exactly the same as here.
That being the case you may be able show that he is fact in violation of the terms of service and appeal to have those terms of service enforced. There is clearly mechanisms on both platforms to prevent certain accouts from flagging. As an example the joe.public account is unable to flag the murky mark on the Steem blockchain.

If you went down that road, you would probably need to demonstrate having clean hands, so to speak.

yeah....er no....
I've never appealed to authority before for doing what I'm doing, I'm not starting now...
Maybe by bringing things to light in my own,way, will let others do the bureaucracy required to stop the cancer.

I've never appealed to authority before for doing what I'm doing, I'm not starting now...

I would see it more as gaining consensus by building a case against his accounts. He runs a lot of very small accounts on Steem I have not done much poking around on hive as yet.

If you started flagging accounts he votes for, there is a big chance that it would backfire on you in a very bad way.

I am happy to help you bring things to light but not flagging other accounts to do it. I know first hand how the chain of command works here and how extensive it is.

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