I took my time to read all the comments in order to get the details of this interesting discussion. The only thing I can blame you is a mistake when communicating the conditions about the project. People may have their opinions (valid or not I dunno since I don't know how to code) but you are contributing to the ecosystem none the less. Therefore, you should have taken your time to explain in detail what the percentage that you are keeping for yourself as well as the reasons for you to do it.
Instead of raising disapproval you might even get support from more steemians. Full transparency if something highly valuable in every project for our community. I still think that you are doing an overall great job.
I have one final question, how is your profit scheme from the voting club? I intend to do something with 1k SP but I have not decided yet what to do. I want to do the math properly in order to fetch the best option available.
hi @joelsegovia, you are correct hiding fees and cost is deceptive and unacceptable, but that's the small and excusable point, you're actually more correct about how this could be really positive, but i'm not seeing their interest to get the best from the situation but instead they just continue to push their unreasonable agenda
you look like an active curator, and you should be earning curation from you efforts and upvotes, how would you feel if I told you every single one of your upvote reward is permanently set to 0% earning, how would you feel?
that how steem-forever is currently working, it not just taking away 51.25% of the entire upvote from Curator and Author (the low payout price of 65% from the total Author 75% Reward gives 100%-0.65x75%=51.25% lost),
Additionally steem-forever also upvotes the steem-forever comment immidiately with the user account (Voting at 0-1min gives about 0% Curation reward), it seems all Bounty's Steem Forever is concern about is getting the 35% of the Author Rewards as profits
I have already address this with the business owner in the comment above, and they really need to fix this before letting they code run again....they can do this in a few hours if they have good script coders (of if they are using python code they can just copy from another developer who posted a code and solution just below)
As for ideas on how to earn from you 1K, You're probably better of:
selling your upvote via @smartmarket or @minnowbooster you will get 85% cash payment back and easily 10 - 30% curation depending on your luck and your position and how big the post that you voted on, it could sometimes be even higher if you got in early to a trending post
OR
you can make a little more if you want to experiment with steemauto fan follow and find popular poster who consistently earn >$30 to $100 and try to position yourself between 5-14mins (before 15mins) to avg get >90-120% ROI. Yes this can be done, especially for smaller accounts around the few K mark.
There are many other ways to earn that will beat voting club will likely always pair you wth equivalent small to medium account which reduces your curation earning, surely smaller on avg compared to the 2 ideas i shared with you
Thank you for your feedback, I want to benefit while at the same time contributing to the overall well being of the platform. I totally agree with you that any type of abuse is self-abuse, we all are (in different proportions) stakeholders and we will benefit more if Steem reaches 2$, 3$ -50$ why not? And that is exactly what we should be working for. The flaw seems to come from the team of Steemit.inc because they should use their delegations to fund projects that could potentially increase the inherent value of Steem... But, if we don't assume that this task is our also doable for us, we tend to behave like scavengers trying to earn as much profit from the platform before it collapses.
Your argumentation is pretty solid, the figures support most of your claims. So far, I think that you were so upset that you wrote too violently (I understand that because when I feel that someone is trying to abuse I react similarly) and @knircky is not receptive even if you changed your tone and apologized for some of your statements (I understand him as well since you openly pointed at him prior giving him the chance to explain the situation, everybody makes mistakes even when their actions are well-intended).
I think that @knircky may or may not accept your apology, it is up to him. He apologized for its poorly communicated details about the economic features and I think that he is smart enough to gather valuable information from what you already have extensively commented. I really want since you seem to be protecting the common interest of us all.
Let me know what you feel about my answer.
I took my time to read all the comments in order to get the details of this interesting discussion. The only thing I can blame you is a mistake when communicating the conditions about the project. People may have their opinions (valid or not I dunno since I don't know how to code) but you are contributing to the ecosystem none the less. Therefore, you should have taken your time to explain in detail what the percentage that you are keeping for yourself as well as the reasons for you to do it.
Instead of raising disapproval you might even get support from more steemians. Full transparency if something highly valuable in every project for our community. I still think that you are doing an overall great job.
I have one final question, how is your profit scheme from the voting club? I intend to do something with 1k SP but I have not decided yet what to do. I want to do the math properly in order to fetch the best option available.
Thank you for your quick response, best regards.
thx for your feedback. Agree shoulda communicated this more clearly. I am sorry about this.
Anytime you have a question like this go to our FAQ:https://steem-bounty.com/FAQ
Or click the "?" icon on the website. It has all that stuff.
The voting club votes for you have given and received 10 full votes it will upvote a steem-bounty post or comment with 1 full vote.
hi @joelsegovia, you are correct hiding fees and cost is deceptive and unacceptable, but that's the small and excusable point, you're actually more correct about how this could be really positive, but i'm not seeing their interest to get the best from the situation but instead they just continue to push their unreasonable agenda
you look like an active curator, and you should be earning curation from you efforts and upvotes, how would you feel if I told you every single one of your upvote reward is permanently set to 0% earning, how would you feel?
that how steem-forever is currently working, it not just taking away 51.25% of the entire upvote from Curator and Author (the low payout price of 65% from the total Author 75% Reward gives 100%-0.65x75%=51.25% lost),
Additionally steem-forever also upvotes the steem-forever comment immidiately with the user account (Voting at 0-1min gives about 0% Curation reward), it seems all Bounty's Steem Forever is concern about is getting the 35% of the Author Rewards as profits
I have already address this with the business owner in the comment above, and they really need to fix this before letting they code run again....they can do this in a few hours if they have good script coders (of if they are using python code they can just copy from another developer who posted a code and solution just below)
As for ideas on how to earn from you 1K, You're probably better of:
OR
There are many other ways to earn that will beat voting club will likely always pair you wth equivalent small to medium account which reduces your curation earning, surely smaller on avg compared to the 2 ideas i shared with you
Thank you for your feedback, I want to benefit while at the same time contributing to the overall well being of the platform. I totally agree with you that any type of abuse is self-abuse, we all are (in different proportions) stakeholders and we will benefit more if Steem reaches 2$, 3$ -50$ why not? And that is exactly what we should be working for. The flaw seems to come from the team of Steemit.inc because they should use their delegations to fund projects that could potentially increase the inherent value of Steem... But, if we don't assume that this task is our also doable for us, we tend to behave like scavengers trying to earn as much profit from the platform before it collapses.
Your argumentation is pretty solid, the figures support most of your claims. So far, I think that you were so upset that you wrote too violently (I understand that because when I feel that someone is trying to abuse I react similarly) and @knircky is not receptive even if you changed your tone and apologized for some of your statements (I understand him as well since you openly pointed at him prior giving him the chance to explain the situation, everybody makes mistakes even when their actions are well-intended).
I think that @knircky may or may not accept your apology, it is up to him. He apologized for its poorly communicated details about the economic features and I think that he is smart enough to gather valuable information from what you already have extensively commented. I really want since you seem to be protecting the common interest of us all.
Thank you for addressing this immediately. Important Feedback Given Above:
https://steemit.com/steem-forever/@dj123/re-dj123-re-knircky-we-are-launching-a-new-service-called-steem-forever-20181104t015811647z