Why not mining with four posts a day?
A smart routinier of the Steem, @uwelang, encouraged in one of his recent posts the people in Steemit, to try out new ways of posting. This proposals make a lot of sense but then he was questioning „Why not four posts a day?“ He asked in a way to enforce people doing this. At this point I immediately had a bad feeling in my curator's gut brain and I thought by myself: I can tell you why not, dear Uwe and you should know it, too.
Not a Bot
A curator is not a bot and the year has 365 days (and six hours). Every miner has the potential to write 1460 postings a year and by the way, as I know, the Inc. cancelled the 4 post restriction with the recent fork. I don't know why they did it. Curators can't seriously read 40 posts a day and I'm always happy, when the authors are good, experienced and made it quite short. If we all decide to be just miners, bot voting is quite okay and you can write nonsense, repetitions or variations of a theme ten times a day. You will get your votes from your network–bots, I'm pretty sure. By doing this the STEEM will be steady mined and the market as the miners are satisfied.
Variations in Species
But how much flower postings or sun pics a human can stand within a week? Monday tulips, Tuesday roses, Wednesday red weed, Thursday sunflower, Friday hurtsicle, Saturday stinging nettle and a collection of Sunday roses might be well done but after curating this the curator is well done as well, after a few weeks of this equal content. Well done in the sense of a fried steak. Next week you got the same parade in another order and if you are a lucky curator, you will get hopefully particular variations at least in species. Then you have to curate the insects parade, morning greetings, Friday sights, end of month and so on, and so forth. How do you think a curator can stand this stuff during one year?
Feeling of Variety
I know, you can repeat the postings from last year and nobody will notice not even a curator. I tell you a not often spoken truth out of my secret curator parlor. I can't stand more sunsets, sun risings, no more flowers and the insects are posted to death too. Sophisticated bloggers take insect eggs to spend the comfortable feeling of variety. And I have seen the sensational surprise of an injured insect this week. There is one important principle of blogging: Never bore one of your last curators to death.
It is not the sense of the Steem to „circle-jerk“. This is the reason, some of us try to be real curators in reading your product.
Bots and Gems
Hordes of Bot voters are following these readers and now I tell you my secret curator's principles: I vote max. two articles of one author a day. Two when the feeling of sympathy for the author is very high only or when the content is outstanding. But I wouldn't read and vote 4 Post of one author in 24h. Never ever. Even a high end writer would pass by my eyes because my brain is limited in absorption capacity. I'm not a bot and there are hordes of other unknown authors, too. I love to discover new gems. Because this is lightning the curators fire. Picking out the gems by chance. We can't read all authors.
Not a Judge
On the other hand, it is not my mission to judge one author's posting frequency or beloved theme at all. I don't want to judge this because my only mission is to decide if it is spam or if it is done well in the sense of Steemit rules. But I am human too. I cannot avoid some meta levels in thinking and four posts a day of one author, believe me, I will never read them all. You can rely on this and I can't imagine the other true curators are much different from this point of view.
Thank you for your attention.
Just a Frog in the STEEM of whales.
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I like that you always scrutinize things in a thoughtful way. Let me think about your points of view an then tell you my personal opinion about the different ideas:
First of all lets confess that people are different. I personally could normally never write four posts in one day (at least not four articles of a certain quality). I write about 3 to 5 articles per week (if it is not a very stressful week) and that will not change with the newe rules.
Others may have more time and energy to write more often - I cannot speak for them - but I agree with you that "mass" production of whatever only very rarely leads to high quality ... and more than four articles per day are really a lot!
Concerning the flowers and the insects I don't mind. Actually I like both, especially the insects. :-) It's just a matter of taste. Maybe you would actually solve four chess problems per day in case I offered that "service". :-)
Maybe in future it will help that the steemit content will be organized by groups of different topics (the insect group, the chess group, the crypto currency group, the gardening group, the science group, the memes ...): so you will be able to find "your" topics more easily.
I completely agree with you, that it makes no sense if someone who is followed by many bots creates 10 posts a day and gets automatically rewarded for every of them. I think an upvote should count more if the voter actually opens an article and stays at least 5 minutes on the site (I know it is not so easy to detect who really reads an article, because bots can be programmed to imitate this behavior - one should think about how to detect if a real human was reading an article).
If one should upvote all posts of ones followers? Of course not: as soon as the number of followers is getting higher that is impossible anyway. I try to spread my votes on many different authors and especially also on new or not so well known steemit users whose content I feel to be undervalued. Some really famous users put an image and add some short text (where most of it just repeats the source without any own thoughts), and within some minutes get 40 - 50 dollar, whereas a newbie may write a really long and creative article and only gets a few cents. I try to balance that a little bit.
That doesn't mean that I never vote for well paid users: if I like what I see they get my upvotes. If I like a person and want to encourage her, she gets my upvote as well: I am not a robot and my evaluation is subjetive of course, too. But normally I only vote for articles which I did open and read.
So far, we agree. Thank you @jaki01 for your reading and this detailed answer. I'm glad you spent such a great attention for my work. Have a nice evening and a great Sunday with sunrisings, bundles of roses and insects. Pardon butterflies. You can get this all in Steemit. And don*t forget to post a chess problem.
Very good points.
Nobody is able to post regulary, daily more then 4 hq articles. Not writting nor taking pictures.
I vote maximum 2 articles per author per day but that with 100% as I only have 25 k steem power but even if I had 200k I would do the same. This is the way to give power to the people and not bread crumbs.
I vote people which I want to support which I like and do their best to produce origin good content.
Thanks for sharing @afrog
You are welcome @lichtblick. Your posting is very useful in fork–times and must be spread to all the miners. Unfortunally most of them doesn't read a lot. We have a very poor readers rate of approx. 5%.
Thank you for your positive feedback. I was a little bit afraid to post this content because the one or other blogger will recognize himself in the mirror of my writing. Maybe I will lose votes or followers. But the truth has to be spoken.
Of course, the 100% upvote is the sincere expression of respect for a blogger. I have no understanding for these percent ghost voters. No power but fiddeling the slider. Maybe this is a kind of substitute satisfaction because of the lack of power. The only what they show with their zero votes is not understanding Steemit at all.
Thanks for sharing your pont of view .
This gives an better understanding of such complex situations.
To the point of the slidermoving voters, my guess is that they vote so much as they can with the hope that the others will vote them back. Anyway for me not problem even thanks for that small vote.
Hopefully we will gain more active readers. I have to admit that I read not every post- espacially as i am supporting people from venezuela- that is my charity/ crowdfunding aspect why I am on steemit ;-)
But to speak the true I am here for the money too and I am not feeling shamed about that ;-) Keep up your good work.
Thank you very much for your kindness, @lichtblick. I'm here for the STEEM as well. Who for heaven sake is not! But I immediately loved the role of curators in this serious earning game. Curating, as a center point of the White Paper, makes a lot of sense because only curating brings soul into this earning–job. A curator has a kind of responsibility on the Steem and I take this job very serious. I'm also proud and thankful to be enabled doing such an important job for the miners community.
Thanks for highlighting me and my post. Just to clarify - seems you misunderstood a bit. I said why not trying more as 4 posts on one day if you feel it, if you want to have fun. New rules should be tested too but no one is forced to do that.
I talk about community feeling and some posts if it is an interactive series need more as 4 posts to get it alive e.g. if you plan a dance night (which is not easy and maybe nothing for this platform in the current set-up).
I did not consider this from a voting point of view but from a community point of view. Personally I hate every Flower post simply as I never liked them no matter on which platform - but everyone has different interests. Also judging quality of posts is a very subjective thing too. I get your thoughts on voting and reading for sure - probably they must change a lot in that aspect too if they plan massive marketing and get millions of new users in - now it is still small.
Hi Uwe. No need for any defense at all. I'm still suffering since weeks because of this kind of posts and a lot of followers are maybe suffering as well not being voted by me on every post. At least this guided me to an point, where I had to decide how to behave in the future. Shall I vote all their stuff because they are followers? Is there existing a special steemiquette to vote by routine and in a special manner? I was in doubt about for weeks . Your post is very okay for me because your question forced me to think about multi blogging instantly and gladly I've got a real result, everybody is able to notice by this article. First I'm a curator, second a follower and third a blogger. This is the result I've worked out and it means: I only vote when a product or a blogger is touching me.
this is perfectly fine @afrog - think the more followers you get the more difficult it is to make all of them happy (or the voting code will be changed).
Great analysis - following you criteria i might be First Blogger, Second curator, Third Follower - but difficult to say. Have an awesome Weekend!
Thanks Uwe. wish you a great dancing weekend, too.
no dancing for me - my old knee is killing me :-)
poor boy. get a new one from the spare part store.
not yet, need to earn more Steem or Steam Dollar before lols
Very good points, indeed.
I've been mainly shitposting, since I make more from 4 quick memes, than I make from 1 well thought out article.
In fact, a single meme or photo generates me just as much as any thoughtful piece does.
Meanwhile, obvious spammers and networkers (lol) overtook me in SP and rep.
Guess that's just how it works, but I sure as hell won't vote for that shit.
Thank you. Every coin has two sides, @felixxx. Who knows. Maybe one time I'm just posting short blah too. It depends on the network of bots following. They doesn't really proof what you do after the head of the gang decided to vote your stuff. In this case it is easy to generate STEEM for nearly nothing. But on this way the quality of Steemit would be surely destroyed and the Inc. will once advertize: „Like Facebook but you get payed for posting.“
Ein sehr guter Post @afrog! Und auch die ganze Diskussion ist beiendruckend tiefgründig. Desshalb will ich da jetzt nichts weiter hinzufügen und schließe mich der Antwort von @jaki01 voll an.
Da hast du Recht. @jaki01 hat die volle Bandbreite abgedeckt in der wahrhaft perfekten Kür einer SteemiquetteTM, die wir alle leben können.
One big advantage of posting more than one time per day is that you can enter different sections of interests (tags). That´s at least how I´ve done it in the past, and it was really successful :)
Thinking about the future and the community concept this might become an even more important issue. Then traffic will be driven much more from the outside of steemit´s borders, too. Currently most of attention is generated inside the network, but hopefully that will change in the future and we´ll start blogging for an even wider audience :)
Hi @surfermarly. Thank you for reading and commenting. You are right. There are advantages for sure. But I've wrote from the sight of a curator who is searching for new blogger–gems and this multipost possibility is not very helpful when the best content is hidden in one of 10 postings. Our reading capacity is very limited.
What is a curator from your point of view? On steemit we can be all both creators and curators :)
Curators are mentioned in the White Paper as a central instance of keeping up the high quality of the blog. All Steemians should be curators but unfortunally most of them doesn't read what they vote. Curators read and vote. Today mostly bots are voting and just approx 5% of the people are reading. Bots have not been considered in the setup of the Steem. They are a kind of a cheat. Sure we are both. Curators and Creators.
If you create engaging content, people will read it. Believe me :)
Bots help to bring content up on trending pages and provide them with more attention. Even though I curate manually, I am not completely against bots. Carefully used they can be a smart additional tool. I don´t see any cheating here. I´d recommend you to read that post to get a different view on bots :) https://steemit.com/curation/@merej99/steemvoter-and-the-organic-curator
Thank you for the link @surfermarly. It is very interesting to read @merej99 but I don't use bots. Your faith in people is really pleasant and this may concerning your articles and sometimes mine too. I have very often a higher readers rate as well. But five percent is the average and this is poor in a community of curators. But my view on bots is changing anyway. Without them we wouldn't produce as much STEEM the market is asking for. I have to admit there are some reasonable situations to use them.