Red: Science Picture Challenge #3 : Draw with Cadmium Selenide 硒化鎘

in #sciencepic7 years ago (edited)



Self-study of pigment and do some notes and bookmarks here. Comments, suggestions and corrections are welcomed.
This is also my entry of the Science Picture Challenge 3 :
https://steemit.com/science/@mcw/red-science-picture-challenge-3-with-sbd-3-sbd

Basic information


Brand: Holbien Watercolor
Name of color: Cadmium Red Light (W014) & Vermilion (W018)
Pigment (C.I.)[1]: PR108
Original: artificial
Minerals: greenockite & hawleyite
Formula: CdSe

Both of them are come from same materials, varies in hue is the result of changing of formula.

The range of cadmium pigments, yellow, orange, red are basically cadmium yellow (cadmium sulfide) with some selenium added in place of sulfur (cadmium selenide). Therefore cadmium sulfide can be made in various shades ranging from yellow, orange to red. indeed, mineral pigment produced from cadmium sulphide when heated with selenium becomes red.[2]



The recipe of Holbein of making W014 and W018 can not be found, can't get more detail of the ratio and heating time or degree while making both colors.

Another discovery:

I searched the formula of Vermilion[3], also aka Chinese red and found the Holbein Vermilion is not exactly the same thing with the one I usually heard of.

Color: Vermilion
Pigment (C.I.): PR106
Origin: mineral and artificial
Mineral : cinnabar
Formula: HgS

Therefore, although Holbein named its red watercolor tube as Vermilion, it is not the "true vermilion". It can be considered as a color very closed to vermilion (in my opinion). It is also a factor of concern while choosing tube/pans. As a little conclusion, the name may not truly represent the color. The ingredient/pigment tells what it is.




中文的部份我簡單地總結一下,資料部份就不再寫了(懶)。這次是拿手上有的兩支紅色水彩來研究一下。兩支都用同一個PIGMENT PR108,然而硫化鎘加上不同量的硒加熱,可產生不同程度深淺的紅。 又,在荷爾拜因的朱紅色管上,標的是PR108。然而真正的朱紅色C.I.是用PR106,來源跟成份都跟荷爾拜因的不同。 所以小小結論是,選顏料時不是看名字,要看PIGMENT的標示比較可靠。

(非常歡迎指正,因為科學盲的我只是順藤摸瓜地瞎找資料的)



Reference:
Pigment list with brand
Holbein Safety Data Sheet
Cadmium Yellow/Red basic information
Vermilion basic information
PR108 basic information

Further reading:
Cadmium: The rare paint pigment faces a Europe-wide ban and artists are seeing red
Band gaps in natural semiconductors


  1. Color Index Interntional

  2. cdyellowred

  3. vermilion

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It's cool that you did a lot of research on the pigment and the history behind the hue names. It's a very beautiful picture, the red on white thumbnail was so striking I had to check out the post. Wonderful photo!

Haha, thank you! In fact, there are much more I need to write and to be discovered. But my chemical knowledge is almost zero, tried hard to understand the document. Here is only a summary of my little data collection of my research. I started realized these kind of pigment things while buying those expensive artist watercolor 😂😭

CdSe 要小心用,有毒的

包裝上面有警告,看資料說是用噴的問題比較大,但我還是會小心用的~

顔料總是很多化學!!!!這個突然讓我想起硃砂XDD

科學盲的我只是順藤摸瓜地瞎找資料
哈哈看到這句實在是太好的學習典範 !!

其實硃砂只知道古裝片口紅xDD
細想下去...美術的東西好像都是化學,繪畫、燒陶、玻璃、染布...(頭要爆炸XD)

口紅?!
不是圖章的印泥嗎 XDD
細想下去...什麼東西好像都是化學XDD

And it is very good that there are such safety data sheets that everyone who deals with chemicals are required to do, thanks to this we can now see and verify all this https://sdsmanager.com/us/ ! A huge number of companies that sell chemicals need to fill out these mats and SDS management for eCommerce that helps with this!

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