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RE: That's not Science, that's Religion
You disagree that posts should be rewarded based on their quality?
You use your vote politically far too often, and considering a great deal of users came to this site to escape the injustices of politics and make use of a supposedly better model of self governance, I am bewildered by the fact that you are unable to see the damage you are doing after all of this time.
Rewarded, yes. Excessively rewarded no.
It's easy for someone with a $280,000 account value to determine what an excessive reward is?
Not everyone has a quarter million in the bank. Some people are trying to eat, or feed their families, and one trending post can make a huge difference to them.
The $0.01 that gets added on to everyone else's posts when you downvote a trending post makes absolutely no difference to them. You always attempt to justify this shit by saying that you are helping others by the downvote, but the hurting far outweighs the alleged helping. So perhaps you could find a better way to be of assistance, like actively finding posts that you think deserve higher rewards and upvoting them.
You're far too quick to use the hammer and far too inconsiderate of the potential consequences of its blow.
I think we have engaged enough times now to be sure that we are likely never going to agree on anything of importance. Not when it comes to the use of flags at least. I just wonder how you are able to find joy in this platform from doing what are doing. Do you really feel no remorse at all for the rewards you have stripped from hardworking authors?
He's only making $21 now! The last time I looked it was at $40.
How is $40 an excessive award for an EXCELLENT POST?
Can't you at least give a smaller % flag?
He/she have been only posting for a month, with very few followers, and yet managed to put out such extraordinary content that it attracted all those votes!
Also, 11 people Re-Steemed this post!
That means that it was considered exceptional to do so.
I do know that I am very selective in what I resteem.
If that many people value this post that much, than $40 is not at excessive reward. It is insulting to lower his payout to only $20.
https://steemdb.com/science/@blindsite/that-s-not-science-that-s-religion/reblogs
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That's not how it works. When rewards are redistributed other posts gain proportionately. So tamping down on the excesses at the top can make a real percentage-gain difference (likely at least 20-30% if enough Trending posts are brought down to size a bit) to posts earning a dollar or a few dollars. It likewise proportionately increases the power of smaller votes. It does not spread out as 0.01 per post across a thousand posts.
You are missing my point.
You said the following;
All other upvoted posts earn more? No. Not really. Definitely not enough worth mentioning. As you said, it is distributed according to current payout, so really the only people who benefit from it to any level of significance are the few top trending posts.
Speaking of the top trending post, it is your friend. A post that has concentrated whalevotes beyond belief, but I don't see your downvote on that one. And he benefited from you downvoting this post more than anyone else did, but surely that was not on your mind when you downvoted... Just a happy coincidence.
All other voters have more influence on deciding rewards? No. Not really. Definitely not for the 95% of voters who's upvote means absolutely nothing. Perhaps their vote might be able to add on a few cents to the trending posts... ie, your friend. But, to anyone else, their vote would have no effect.
So, no. Any time you downvote a post. You're not helping everyone. You are helping the top two or three trending posts. I should probably pay more attention to who is currently trending or heading there whenever you do downvote a post like this in future.
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You are incorrect. There are hundreds of posts earning a meaningful amount. Just scroll down Trending (it isn't one page). You can go pages and pages and see posts getting rewarded. Those users are no less deserving of a fair change for a larger share of the reward pool than a few whale favorites at the very top.
Other than the very few at the top of the trending list, the amount added on to each post will be insignificant. Less than $0.50 for many, and less than $0.10 for most. This is not worth mentioning, but the $20 you stole from this author is worth mentioning, because you can actually do something $20. You can't do shit with $0.10.
Edit, it's really more than 20 you stole from them, because you impacted the following upvotes as well as reduced its visibility.
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We will have to agree to disagree, both numerically and in terms of the impact. One of the most-heard comments from non-stacked users on Steemit is "I only wish my vote were worth 0.01". That $0.50 or $0.10 (even if they were correct) that you dismiss as insignificant is nothing of the sort for the people earning it. Get out a little.
I too wish my vote was worth a penny. But, that is not because someone I upvote will be happy as fuck to receive it, they wouldn't be. That is because I would at least feel that I'm giving something, rather than nothing.
I feel that everyone who wishes they could give a cent say this with the same sentiment, not because they think anyone needs or can possibly do anything with a cent.
I think you're aware of this. I hadn't yet seen @krnel's post and realised just how often you have been using this excuse before I pulled you up on this. Now I realise that it is a waste of my time, because you have no intent on correcting your behaviour. I no longer believe that it is because you think you're in the right, though. I think it's become very obvious that there is an agenda at play here. I won't be wasting any more of my time trying to talk sense to you. Either you see the damage you're causing and just don't care, or you will never see it and continue to convince yourself that you're doing good, even when everyone other than arselickers who want whalevotes are telling you otherwise.
Enjoy the rest of your night.
And that is indeed among the results of reversing some of the excess concentration of rewards at the top. More people have votes worth a penny, and feel they have accoplished something. i.e. more happy users. We will have to agree or disagree whether that is more valuable than a few posts already earning a lot more than most of the others earning even more than that. I personally think it is.
If this is how you feel, then why did you not downvote atsdavids most recent post which was trending at $200+ dollars, and basically consisted of things he had already said in comments, which you are aware of, because you upvoted a ton of them. So he should be getting another payout for something he was already paid for sharing, but this guy shouldn't because there was concentrated whalevotes(that came at the hands of a curation trail)?
You should rephrase your excuse to "concentrated voting of whales I don't like." Or better yet, come up with an entirely new excuse because this one is illogical and I don't think anyone with a bit of common sense is buying it.
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Because as this exchange illustrates, improving the incentive structures on Steemit is extremely important and, as such, effective presentation and discussion of these issues adds more value than any routine personal blog post. Especially more so than paying concentrated rewards to a large number of personal blog posts day after day, week after week. That is my opinion, and I'm entitled to use my vote power according to my opinion as is anyone else.
This does not explain why you haven't downvoted many of the trending posts that are saturated with whalevotes in spite of the content being far from deserving.
Yes, @smooth. You are entitled to use your voting power in whatever you like. But, you are certainly not entitled to my respect as long as you continue to use it in this way. If you had an ounce of morality, you would send the author of this post the 20 dollars that you took from him, as neither you nor I know how much they may have needed it.
Chances are, they might not have. But, they just might of. Everyone of our talks has been on the same topic. Consideration. You have none of it, and someone in your position ought to have a lot of it. I hope, I really do, that you will take some time to reflect on your actions and think of the potential afflictions your flags may be having on users who are working hard for the hope that they might one day get rewards deserving on their time and efforts.
Now, I mean not to be rude. But, I am busy, so I would rather not continue this conversation as it has proven itself unproductive.
Good night.