I want to save the reward pool from scammers, so please give me all the votes

in #rewardpool6 years ago (edited)

Here is my snarky post that I will regret:

There is a message coming from several witnesses and whales that they are somehow saving the reward pool by taking it.  

I will not call out specific names, because mostly it is people who are doing mostly good things, who probably have good intentions.

When you punish the abusers by taking the rewards for yourself, you are taking rewards from the entire community,  those who are trying to create excellent content and those who are trying to scam and spam are equally impacted.  Maybe consider upvoting other good Authors would be a better solution?

If you want to use your stake and position to earn, I respect that.  If you pretend you are doing it as some type of service, it's a turn off to me.

We have the tools to fight spam and abuse, and they are upvotes and downvotes and curation.

@whatsup 

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It's all weird and in-reverse thinking that's ultimately only serving personal interests. At least that's how it looks.

I mean, if you have all that SP, instead of creating some damn upvote bot that can be used to rape the system, why don't you just lease that same SP in 50K blocks to known and trusted manual curators? OK, so you might make 20% less, but at least your efforts will go towards the long term stability of the platform.

Yeah, "Protect the reward pool via Me" Is the newest strange thinking on the site.

Meaningful comment...excellent. Looks like you " pull the rope"

We don't have effective tools to police abuse. Current tools require high resource cost from policers (time, attention and network resources). People can try to create bots to police abuse, but it's a perpetual cat and mouse game with the advantage to abusers.

Even those willing to dedicate their stake to policing abuse often end up giving up as a result. It's one thing to dedicate your stake to it, it's another to dedicate all your time and attention on top of it.

It doesn't make the argument make sense. Build tools, support those who are doing the work or building the tools.

You can use your stake how you like. I support that. Pretending you are "saving" anything just hurts your creditability.

I'm not "pretending" anything. I also never made the argument you described in your post.

Yeah, my comment did sound like it was directed at you.. I didn't really mean for it to sound like that. It was more a yelling at those saying that.

I've heard that message too. "Since I'm powering up then the reward pool is going back into itself" but you know what? I wish I was one powering up some of that money. Maybe instead they should distribute that money to all of their followers instead of powering it up.

I am fine with them using their stake how they want. The "I'm doing this for you" Sounds like a drug addict telling me they snorted the last bit of coke, to save me from the dangers of coke.

snort

The same thing I wanted to talk about repeatedly and repeat here we in the community on us I move forward and work hard and intelligence and tire me to be the final results satisfactory All of us cooperate to advance me Steemit it is the future O leader
We have to fight the nuns and the slugs and do as much as we can to bring us to the top @whatsup

I know, ain’t that something of a delima, dear one?! I’m slightly ( a sensitive) so that has created a bit of an obstacle for me because as much I’d want to invest times to creating good or even great contents, there’s a part of me that says that doesn’t always matter. The inner conflicts on Steemit has left me all spread out with one foot in while another foot out.

With that being said, I can’t take this platform seriously but then sometimes I want to. I dunno.

It is an interesting experiment. I used to guess a lot about where we would end up. As long as we continue to increase our traffic and have at least some members of the community creating content and trying to build the site the rest is mostly just noise.

I have an inability to shut up sometimes. :) I just want them to know I know it is BS. I think some of them have started to believe themselves.

I really do not think it matters. My "vision" is that investors are going to be interested in the product and the audience. They will not care about our politics.

What I appreciate is that you publicly ask these questions and raise awareness of the BS @whatsup. Myself and others believe the same thing but as minnows, all it takes is one miffed whale to crush us and blow us off the platform.

Well, I always think I am going to get smashed also. I try to be fair, but I find when something is ticking me off, I can't hold it in. :)

Good news, If I ever get crushed... It was fun while it lasted.

I'm more inclined to raise my minnow pitchfork and charge (with the rest of my fellow minnow peasants) into oblivion if I'm being courageously led by a whale. With all the pokemon fury I can muster... "whatsup, I choose YOU!"

Well, our words are our pitchforks and for every person they please they offend more. ;)

When you punish the abusers by taking the rewards for yourself, you are

a grumpy cat

lets face the truth, everyone is here on steemit to make money and most don't care about fair distribution of the reward pool but how much one can get from it. its sad

Well, not everyone... there is deeper community stuff going on too.
But for the most part, your correct. Everyone cares too much about what they can take personally... i guess thats true with life.
Steemit is a good social experiment to show human flaws and our selfish nature

Agreed, it isn't everyone.

I completely support you and you are the person who is not afraid to say about the abuses on the platform, it's worth the vote and respect! Thank you @whatsup

@whatsup,
Obliviously this is a good thing! I am in, if whales (good ones) decided to perform a killer whale against rapers then as a dolphin I will join too! I already told you about this nah :D Good idea friend!

Cheers~

I don't see the whales as bad, in fact I think most of them have good intentions. I don't get the impression many of them have been in business or had money before. I don't know of course.

I try to call out the action vs. the "people".

@whatsup,
Not all of them, but few of huge SP holders! After all this is money, we all love that!
adopt a minnow, my sister was busy with her studies (it's really hard to be a medical student in Sri Lanka) but she said she will try to be your minnow this time! I will meet her today and hope she will contact you today!

Cheers~

personally here just want to work and earn income from my work. But what you say I also understand, because I have not really understood with the way of stock or so. I am also still a beginner here, with your writing this can be my motivation to know more about this. Thank you friend.

That makes perfect sense. The abusers must get punished for what they do and not additionally for the anger of the author. These abusers are present in each and every system and STEEMIT is not different. It's has its defense mechanism.

Good job @whatsup.

Steem On!

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