I am really afraid, this week the accepted destruction of our nation really really frightens me....

in politics •  5 months ago

I was born in 1963 only 14 years after World War II.
I learned at a young age (8 years old) about the Holocaust from my Jewish studies.
I know that half my grandmother's family had been killed in the Holocaust or right in the aftermath.
There were many people in my temple whose family members were killed during the holocaust, and some experienced it directly.

It was important for my community to teach us never again so they showed us books about it with graphic images in them.

And when we were older we took classes on it and read about it. Such as the Diary of Anna Frank, Night by Ellie Wiesel, History how Hitler came to power, and how important the USA democracy to protect us from these things with villigence
and problems american war time doctraines were.

I learned:
"About 85,000 Jewish refugees (out of 120,000 Jewish emigrants) reached the United States between March 1938 and September 1939,
but this level of immigration was far below the number seeking refuge. In late 1938, 125,000 applicants lined up outside US
consulates hoping to obtain 27,000 visas under the existing immigration quota. By June 1939, the number of applicants had
increased to over 300,000. Most visa applicants were unsuccessful. At the Evian Conference in July 1938, only the Dominican
Republic stated that it was prepared to admit significant numbers of refugees, although Bolivia would admit around 30,000
Jewish immigrants between 1938 and 1941.

In a highly publicized event in May–June 1939, the United States refused to admit over 900 Jewish refugees who had sailed
from Hamburg, Germany, on the St. Louis. The St. Louis appeared off the coast of Florida shortly after Cuban authorities
cancelled the refugees' transit visas and denied entry to most of the passengers, " ~ WikiPedia

Essentially sending to their death 100s of thousands of men, women and CHILDREN!!!!

Every time I have nightmares in my life I see these images.
Every nightmare had me Literally scared of:

  1. someone like the SS coming knocking at my door while I was sleeping and taking me to the a concentration camp stripping my parents from me,
    as I try to hide from the lines going to the gas houses.
  2. being placed in the cattle cars for the trains, where they were stopping and taking people out and shooting them into mass graves.
  3. stuck in a ghetto as they go from building to building rounding us up,
  4. me escaping and me running across multiple countries that I didn't know hiding and hiding and hiding to escape.

Real scary hell was already there so
I did not need:

  1. fake monsters in my life i.e. scary movies, haunted houses
  2. people carrying guns
  3. treating others as not having a right to be there because skin color or land of birth.
    Those things were taught to me young.

It also taught me not to accept Bigots.
Either you can teach them why they are wrong and they can change their ways
You need to identify the Evil drag it into the light of day, to have people fight against it.

The only way that great country like the United States can we mean free and unfettered was the fight bigotry at any level.

And be viligent:

Hitler rose up by frenzying up a large minority of a minority party, and driving the moderates out or scaring the rest into following.
At a time when the Democratic Party had the majority but did not have a strong unified vote.
He then demonized the press.
Placed control with military leaders that supported him.
Got rid of civilian due process.
Hid the evil he was doing by constantly obfuscaing.
Kept rallying his base had his own radio and newspapers, that vilified everyone except him and his strongest followers,

he then started by rounding migrant civilians (gypsies and migrant workers) and putting in camps.

Separating families at night under the cover of dark by using a quasi police force with no direct oversight by legislative branch.
Illegal taking monies allocated for other uses to fund actions not approved by the legislative branch.
These camps were run by the military and kept journalists and even there elected officials from access.
Images were staged and lies about what were going on were constant.
Prior to the election he was sure to lose, he declared Marshal law on a trumped up emergency and eliminated his version of the Congress.
From there it was history...

Does this sound familar? This exactly what is playing out again under Trump.....

I am extremely afraid.

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Although it may be tempting to make Trump/Hitler comparisons, a Mussolini analogy is perhaps more accurate.

It’s the buffoon factor.


The problem is he much more cruel then musselini. and his father was a member of the klan.
His actions early on In his business practices had him losing in court on wide scale discrimination in his businesses preventiing African Americans From renting in his apartments.


his father was a member of the klan.

false. He also won two Rainbow Coalition awards, there was no finding of wrongdoing in the lawsuit.


Rainbow coalition awards did not exist during that time .
He actually went back tot he town that he grew up on the Russian German border when he got into trouble here in the United States, and came back before ww 2. he expoused sympathies to the Nazi party.

In a case with the gov., which is settled, If you pay out millions, but make no admission of wrongdoing. You still lost my case otherwise you would have not paid out millions of dollars. Trump is being paid in his way out of millions and millions of dollars Many many many times.

The reason you don't see all paid off lawsuits.
Is be cause he's gotten so good at writing up contracts with n.d.a. Keeping people on the other side from talking about it.
So you (general public) don't even see it.
Look >1800 lawsuits against him in the 15 years Before he started to run for office. THATS 1 EVERY 3 DAYS....


he expoused sympathies to the Nazi party?
how many million do you think he had to pay?
Donald Trump won two rainbow coalition awards after that lawsuit. The idea that Donald Trump is a racist is preposterous, thus the need to make up lies about his grandfather.

The reason you don't see y'all vote Is be cause he's gotten so good at walking him up and hitting the contracts Did you people the other side from 12 to you about it, So you don't even see it Look Yes >18000 law suits in the 20 years Before he came in the office.

That's incoherent.


really trump is not a rascist?
People are not vermin.
A judge born in Minnesota of mexican descent can rule fairly in a civil case.
He does not want black accounts he prefers Jewish accounts to watch his money.
He is cracking down on Latino illegal immigration when the majority of illegal immigrants are coming from eastern europe.
His first 5 bans from the middle east were ruled by the court to be based on race....

Don't comment on my posts if you won't talk facts....


Who said people were vermin?

the majority of illegal immigrants are coming from eastern Europe?

citation needed

There were not 5 bans and despite the efforts of some activist judges the court just ruled it totally legal.

So not using facts is only something you are allowed to do?



in 2016, 1.49 million foreign-born individuals moved to the United States, a 7 percent increase from the 1.38 million coming in 2015. India was the leading country of origin, with 175,100 arriving in 2016, followed by 160,200 from China/Hong Kong, 150,400 from Mexico, 54,700 from Cuba, and 46,600 from the Philippines. India and China surpassed Mexico in 2013 as the top origin countries for recent arrivals. Among the top countries of recent immigrants, many more Cuban born arrived in 2016 (54,700) compared to 2015 (31,500)—an increase of 74 percent. In contrast, Canadian arrivals dropped 19 percent: 38,400 in 2016, versus 47,300 in 2015.

And then the semi documented not in that list from europe:
According to Pew, between 4 and 5.5 million foreigners entered the United States with a legal visa, accounting for between 33–50% of the total population.[34] A tourist or traveler is considered a "visa overstay" once he or she remains in the United States after the time of admission has expired. The time of admission varies greatly from traveler to traveler depending on the visa class into which they were admitted. Visa overstays tend to be somewhat more educated and better off financially than those who entered the country illegally.[59]

To help track visa overstayers the US-VISIT (United States Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology) program collects and retains biographic, travel, and biometric information, such as photographs and fingerprints, of foreign nationals seeking entry into the United States. It also requires electronic readable passports containing this information.

Visa overstayers mostly enter with tourist or business visas.[34] In 1994, more than half[60] of illegal immigrants were Visa overstayers whereas in 2006, about 45% of illegal immigrants were Visa overstayers.[61]

Those who leave the United States after overstaying their visa for more than 180 days but less than one year, leave and then attempt to apply for readmission will face a three-year ban which will not allow them to re-enter the U.S. for that period. Those who leave the United States after overstaying their visa for a period of one year or longer, leave and then attempt to apply for readmission will face a ten-year ban.[62]


The reason you don't see all paid off lawsuits.
Is be cause he's gotten so good at writing up contracts with n.d.a. Keeping people on the other side from talking about it.
So you (general public) don't even see it.
Look >1800 lawsuits against him in the 15 years Before he started to run for office. THATS 1 EVERY 3 DAYS....

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Can't disagree at all, to be honest, I've been talking about this all week.

I have the unfortunate privilege of knowing some of the manipulations behind the scenes, some of the players being drafted are the same people who committed some of the worst atrocities of the drug war on children, and are being drafted for what I can only term as concentration camps for immigrants.

A few miles north of here in New Hampshire, a friend was stopped by an ICE checkpoint. He gave them a really hard time and was detained for a few minutes. IF he hadn't been white... I honestly don't know what would have happened.

I'm trans, I'm a libertarian, I fight every day to not see what happened in the 30's and 40's in Germany happen here.

Keep up the fight.


All I can say is I'm an independent Moderate, I vote for the best candidate that has a chance to win if the votes are close.

While I respect your right to be a Libertarian, there is the reason that the PACs who support the Republicans IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS give small money to the Liberian and Green Parties...

Simply to split the vote.

Now if there is a viable candidate for a Libertarian in my district who will not work with the republicans, I would not vote for them in congress, RIGHT NOW!

We truly need to have a strong clean up crew to stop the stench in the white house now.

As oppose the gators, piranhas, and leeches that are republican senators.

It seems to me that after today's events to protect your civil liberties the smartest thing for you and fellow Libertarians, like us Moderate Independents its so important to GET OUT AND VOTE THIS NOVEMBER for democrats in house, senate, state houses, and governors. As to other positions local republicans,rtarians are ok!


Yeah, in 1930 and 40s Germany people from poor countries overwhelmed their immigration system with unaccompanied minors after it was declared that all unaccompanied minors would get amnesty, that's how it went right?


Are you kidding most tried to get out of the way, but most farmers in small towns in a landlock country have no where to go. It's not like everyone even had a car back then....most people fleeing were using a horse and carriage to get to a train. And you had to sell everything to scavenagers giving nothing....

you truly have no concept of things.

The people coming to our doors from hondorous and el salvador do need political asylum BECAUSE WE CREATED THE DEATH SQUADS IN THEIR COUNTRY. AND TO GET HERE AND EVEN BE DENIED A VETTING, IS EVIL!


"most tried to get out of the way"

Ohhh, Ok then, so in fact it is nothing like Germany like you were saying it was, thanks. If your theory is correct then everyone from Honduras or El Salvador could come here, but it is not. Is amnesty supposed to be a remedy for ever evil someone might face or for very specific problems?
We didn't create any death squads.

President Obama was doing the same thing. The biased media had pictures of children locked up in cages like animals.They tied to blame Trump but as it turned out the pictures was taken in 2014. Give Trump a little credit he is trying to keep these families together that cross the border illegally. When a american citizen gets arrested he 'doesn't get to take his family with him

um yeah, who can forget how during WW2 all sorts of people, including tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors arriving alone, fled to Germany where the Germans briefly detained them while trying to process them all but were overwhelmed by their numbers, right?


I'm not talking about undocumented Miners coming to the borders .
I'm talking about the natural born citizens here in United States Who are being treated not correctly.
The Heights Of the Germany concentration camps. Did not occur overnight .first day ostracised different groups in the country And people outside of the country were not pure of group vetting. Anyone who did not follow their doctrine and was not white, christian german, and followed in lockstep. Was vilified And Either Sent out of the country To jail Or killed. Prior to World War jail Before they took over this surrounding nations, They actually exported the Jews, gypsies,catholics and russians to other countries If they could.
Then they started Interning. Then the internment camps were turned into labor camps. Finally the labor camps turn into Death camps.

people are seeking asylum Should not be Thrown into Lock up For the the same misdemeanor charge As Jay walking.

If you cannot see that You are delusional.


Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies) is an Internet adage that asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1."‍—‌that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler. People seeking asylum should go to a port of entry, not jump the border.