What Am I Missing ? What Makes Some People Think The Way They Do ? And Why Cant I Understand What The Hell They're Talking About ?

in #politics7 years ago

How is it that I can look at a particular news story and see it one way, and a Trump supporter will look at the same news story and see it completely different. I can't seem to figure out Why there's such a totally different interpretation of "facts", depending on who you voted for in the last election. Maybe i'm wrong, but Shouldn't facts be facts regardless.

I think Donald Trump is a total POS for a wide range of reasons, and have nothing but contempt for him and all his minions. Maybe its because of that, I cant seem to understand how people can support our "Orange Clown In Chief". If Donald Trump can use dumb nicknames to demean people, why cant I

I know it would be easier to just believe they are ignorant, stupid, or brainwashed, or whatever reason suits, but thats not really the case. Most Trump supporters, at least in my part of the country, are older, better educated, upper middle class people who genuinely "work for a living".

Am I missing something? What gives so many people their unshakable faith in this person that I can barely stand to hear speak. The sound of his voice tends to give me that throw up feeling in the back of my throat - and watching him on TV can sometimes put me in a foul mood for hours.I always end up pissing off my girlfriend by yelling at the TV.

Every day in the news, I see another nail in the proverbial coffin. The last couple weeks, a new revalation comes out daily - sometimes even hourly, that Donald Trump and his merry band of co conspirators commited serious crimes.Some stories even point to possible treason by the orange clown himself.

There are so many news stories relating to the Trump white house, its hard to keep track of them all. One day theres a story on the presidont, then Trump JR, the next day its Manafort, the next day its Flyn, and Kushner, and on, and on, and on.

A large percentage of Trump supporters (at least the ones I have bene in contact with), will see identical stories and conclude the whole thing is "fake news", a conspiracy, liberal media bias, deep state mind control, or some other not reflective of the facts excuse to deny whats right in front of them.

Now I can say with total confidence that a large portion of the mountain of shit being dumped on us daily, is likely over exaggerated, blown up, divide and conquer, melt your brain bullshit. However some of it isn't - and that should piss off, and scare the shit out of everyone in America. It dam sure does me...

Well that's my rant for the day...

If anyone actually does read this and likes what I have to say, check out my other posts. Im gonna try n get back to one or two posts every day, but my internet is still kind of spotty after the hurricane. Im lucky to be getting at least a few uninterupted hours every day, I guess I should feel fortunate, considering there are still poles down, and people still without power.

Thanks for reading... Steem On...
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I agree that watching politics today is like watching a split screen movie where one audience's narrative and beliefs about what is happening are completely at odds with the other. I don't know what the solution is... it is as a result of the media so very very obviously being biased while pretending to be objective. 1/2 of Americans have given up paying attention to anything that the Mainstream Media has to say to them. The Media has zero credibility in their eyes. And everytime they are the least bit unfair to Trump or Trump's people, this just confirms their bias.

I still have to wonder if the half of Americans who are "ignorant of the facts" were to pay attention, would they see what I see. Or would they continue to believe the unsubstantiated, totally untrue BS that consumes them now.

that happens when the media begins to play with public opinion, the government's half supporters show one thing and the other opposites. Here in Venezuela we had enough experience in that, until the government censored all means of opposition. People become a side and take a color (usually red and blue) then become more fanatic to their cause, and do not listen to reasons.

I agree with you "mostly", I tend to be someone who relies on actual verifiable facts, from multiple sources, before I can make an informed opinion. My question here is, how can my neighbor (for example) sit with me in my living room, watching the same thing, with me looking through the internet doing everything possible to support or contest whatever assertions are being made, only to have him dismiss the "FACTS" outright and maintain his world view. This is in my opinion, a very smart person - a business owner, a good parent, and a good friend, but he has an almost religious support for the president. In fact, just like most religious people whos religiosity will increase in opposition to criticism, people seem to be "digging in" politically, as a function of evidence contrary to their beliefs...

Well, what you are missing is hard to define... I will try to point you to a couple things that might help you understand but I suspect that was a rhetorical question and you probably won't even follow the links but here goes... There is this, which will spell it all pretty clearly for you but you are almost certain to reject it as craziness at some point. Once you actually work through each veil, well, you can't go back. And the reason most people cannot pierce the next veil is explained well here:

And if you stun me and actually read / watch those links and actually get a bit of insight and want to dig deeper, I have an array of shovels I would happily share. Bunny hole excavation is good work, needs done.
https://atrueott.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/understanding-the-nine-veils/

I have spent many hours, days, weeks, checking out everything Thunderbolts has to offer. As far as the Nine Veils theory goes, I personally have a hard time with the conclusions because it correlates the here and now, then and when, is and was, to some kind of quasi religious belief. Unfortunately I feel the same way about religion that I feel about politicians - a mechanism of control, totally based on other peoples weakness, and completely full of shit.

Sumerian texts? NOT Sitchkin, have you read them yourself? There is an online translation. They pretty well explain everything. Politics, religion and money were tools the alien gene-tweekers gave to their pet human bloodlines to control us. That does not mean there is not a genuine "God" but the gods of the BIble were posers. And the Bible itself makes no claim that any god rules this world, states very clearly it was left in the hands of Satan. There is being religious, and there is dealing with the facts of what religions do and why.

I looked at the online translations a couple years ago when Dr. Heiser first publicly opposed Sitchin's translations.(and again 5 minutes ago) Unfortunately I cant read Sumerian (wish I could), so it's impossible for me to agree or disagree with any conclusion, from either side, related specifically to the texts. I guess the question at this point has to be - have you read them ? If you can personally read Cuneiform script, I would love to pick your brain regarding a hundred different topics. I tend to think you are basing your "opinion" on someone else's claimed knowledge as to what the texts say. In other words, is your belief founded on some supposed "authority" asking you to have "faith" in their assertions - sort of like religion.
I don't want you to think i'm trying to diminish the overall point you are making - I absolutely am not (I firmly believe the "lost human history" hypothesis). I just want to point out how all of us have the predisposition to believe "authority figures" over our own lying eyes - and just like our political views, they can be manipulated to serve an agenda... Steem on good sir...

You are being manipulated by mainstream media; I know that's not what you want to hear but it is the truth. They want you to get angry watching their bullshit because they are intent on taking Trump out. Those of us who "get" Trump are the ones who have suffered in silence for eight years while Obama trashed the USA and undermined everything from the economy to the social construct of the nation. We don't want mamby pamby self hate and politically correct suicide anymore. We want the bands of government restriction loosened and a booming economy once again. We want "America first" and a revival of the American dream which Trump understands. I bet you never heard of Trumps kindness and generosity with his wealth; one instance of many being the black woman that fell on hard times he gave a home for life and flowers every week because he saw her on TV...many other instances reported, but not on CNN of course. It may be becoming cliché to say we need to "take the red pill and wake up" but its' true... I hope you can begin to see through the fog and maybe dig a little deeper into who your greatest president ever truly is (I'm Canadian)

Can you honestly say that Trump is putting America first - it looks to me that he is putting himself first. (just like he always has) Im guessing you have not read any of my other posts - let me share a story with you and then tell me how the media has corrupted my view... In a past life, I was a general contractor in South Florida who had direct personal contact with the "Orange Clown In Chief", and several of the sycophant's surrounding him (a couple who are still latched on to his tit) Now fortunately I only signed a few sub contracts through another contractor, and was spared the financial devastation everyone else with large contracts would eventually have - a lot of good people lost everything. Now with that, let me also propose a challenge to you. Provide me with evidence that supports your view. Show me proof that he has contributed to charities (or that single black woman who maybe does or doesnt exist), or that he has ever given anything to anyone, ever. Show me actual verifiable FACTS to support how the dismantling of EPA regulations is going to make the "economy boom once again". Last but not least, Show me any genuine statistics that show how Obama "trashed the USA" - and please nothing from Info Wars, and Shawn Hannity...

How about "if you like your Doc you can keep your doc...if you like your plan...you didn't build that...premiums will go way down...muslims help build the foundations of this nation...the police aced stupidly..." and on and on ad nauseum. Ah what a breath of fresh air is good old Donald Trump! Ah the zingers that thrill my agitated soul lol. We waited patiently for 8 years because as Obama said "elections have consequences" and we suffered those consequences for eight long years until they offered us that wicked witch Hillary Clinton! Boy it sure is nice now to just sit back and watch the liberals heads explode and the media scrambling to keep up with a President that actually WORKS. I don't feel I have to argue anymore because it's my turn to be relieved of my outrage at Obama apologizing for the nation and golfing whilst American heads were being chopped off. Now I get to sit back and enjoy the show as Trump pummels the libtards into the dust. How sweet it truly is!

This is where we cant seem to agree, and I see it a lot with people around me, not just in my posts. Show me ONE piece of legislation to support the notion that the orange clown is "a president that actually works", give me ANY substantive executive order he has signed that is going to make Muslims any less crazy, or the police any less murderous, or make yours and my life the least bit better. I guess the one thing Obama and I can agree on (and no I didn't vote for him) "elections have consequences", and the consequences of Trump, im quite certain, are going to be severe. Like I said before, I have dealt with Donald Trump personally - I sat in the same room and negotiated scope of work, pricing, and schedules, I have seen just how slimy and dirty he is up close - and how far he will go to serve his own interests. The typical Trump apologist usually cant give me any REASONS, I get "at least its not Obama", and that is where the real support for this person that has never done anything for anyone but himself rests. People support Trump because he's not Obama, or by extension Clinton. I really would like it if anyone could give me genuine PROOF of anything the "presidont" has done to "make america great again", because I cant find any...
Edit: as far as the ACA goes - look at the real reason the exchanges are failing, the corporate congress obstructs, blocks, denies, restricts everything possible, to cause it to fail...

One more thing I think could help us to understand each others perspective, do a little research and show me one single piece of legislation that the "Presidont" has signed that will show me evidence supporting your assertion - you claim that Donald Trump is "the greatest president ever", I would think there has to be a mountain of bills and executive orders to give weight to your belief. Change my mind - please...

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