Is non-aggression the same as isolation?
Nah, it's not.
Here's a more complete explanation:
It's striking to me how common it is that when you talk about not imposing rules on other people or not forcing each other to live a certain way, some people will seamlessly think you're talking about isolation or solitude or not having a network or connectivity with everyone.
They're telling on themselves. What they're saying is "I can't interact with people without the aspect of wanting to control people".
So when you say no control, they think you mean no people. They can't imagine how there could still be involvement and interaction if there isn't a mechanism to control.
Very sad, tsk tsk
But the great Ron Paul explains it pretty nicely.
It isn't one of his best or most iconic debate answers, but the headshake itself is really epic. And the whole nonsense and screwy thinking from McCain is fascinating.
It's easy to see why people make this error. Our networks and governance and (for most people, tragically) our parenting is based on control rather than mutuality.
(But don't worry, it's starting to change.)
So there's so much control, and that's what people have an example of. So I absolutely forgive the mistake.
But then you owe it to yourself to realize "wait, nope, not ordering people what to do isn't the same as not being involved.. different concepts". And then you can weigh and consider what was actually said.
I love that rebuttal. I mean John was just trying to use that opportunity to score some cheap point.
"Let us win!"
Of course they are soldiers fighting a war in which they've lost comrades. What do you expect them to say. Plus, I'm sure not every soldier feels that way
Paul's point is the best. You see, if someone has something to gain from your peaceful existence, hurting you is going to be a hard decision.
That is why I go the way of trade. And I'm not just talking about goods. We could trade ideas, services, education... The list is endless.
When you begin to mutually exchange stuff with people, it's a lot easier to make recommendation. I mean, your favorite grocery store attendant can make you change your brand of bathing sap without putting a gun to your head.
You know what people's problem is? They see others as inferior. Inferior in reasoning abilities. That's why they don't want to appeal to reason. Hell, that would always lead to resentment.
Force might always get you out top. But you'll always need greater force to keep yourself there. At the end, it isn't cost effective anymore. Plus, like Paul said, they would always fight back.
At the end, no one wins. Both parties are wasting resources that could be used to build and share.
I'm talking too much
Blessings
That's a great point. I think the same, of course, but have probably never looked at it quite like that.. that emphasizing what you gain from someone's peaceful existence might be a powerful way to help people see it.
Right! It's funny how it works. It's ironic. That control and force isn't actually even the best way to get the outcome you want.
People resist, and create a wall to you. Whereas if you're peaceful, you may actually influence.
You can see this in children too. Parents who hit and order around their kids.. often end up with kids who don't listen or behave well lol. It works in the moment but not longterm. Whereas if you're constantly nice and respectful, you can just ask and they'll probably be anxious to do what you want.
So on point!! Even if you win, it's not a nice or steady thing. Now you have enemies, plus just other people who see your position and the spoils you're getting from it, and they want it. Karma, basically. You put violence out there and it comes back to you.. it doesn't make things nice for you.
You're saying wonderful things and it's great. Never too much, never stop :)
Thanks for coming by.
I literally had someone last week mention Ron Paul being 'too isolationist' and just shook my head.
You mentioned a really nice topic. I like it
Ty @maxilla. You made a nice comment
What?
That's all you'll say?
You don't like his comment?
Argh!
I like your comment too 😍 😍
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