My Interview with Jon Batiste
Introduction
In early October, 2013 a public relations agency approached me about interviewing Jon Batiste, whose album Social Music was about to be released. After listening to the album I quickly said yes and agreed to interview him a couple of weeks later. As I prepared for the interview by delving into his lyrics, reading some of his previous interviews, and watching videos of this charismatic pied piper taking jazz to the streets, I began to develop an inkling that he might be destined for greater things.
This was reinforced after speaking with him. He had obviously thought deeply about the world and his place in it, and had reflected on the lives of legendary musicians who had left a mark on the world. He seemed like he might be a artist who could transcend music and transform lives, in any case he left me with no doubt that he is truly an exceptional young man.
Part 1 of My Audio Interview from 2013
First time in printed form.
Jon Batiste: Glad to talk to you, glad we could connect.
Alan Bryson: Me too, I know you're really busy right now, so I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule.
Jon Batiste: Yes indeed, it's been great, I couldn't ask for anything more.
Alan Bryson: Well I'll tell ya what, we don't have a lot of time and I have to admit, I'm really fascinated by your approach to music, I'm impressed by your world view, I'm curious about your future plans, and I happen to be a huge fan of the series Treme, so I need to use my time wisely.
Jon Batiste: Okay, let's get to it.
Alan Bryson: I would say to listeners, and correct me if I'm wrong, if you look at the name of your band, Stay Human, the title of your album, Social Music, and the lyrics of the song, Let God Lead, that goes a long way to understanding who you are as a person, and what you're trying to achieve as an artist. Would you agree with that, and maybe expand on it?
Jon Batiste: Absolutely, it's all there. It's kind of the first chapter of what is this book I'm writing. So I'm creating the story, and starting with the album, and the track you mentioned, that's kind of the whole philosophical direction of it all – beyond the music, that's what it's really all about. And for me, it's more than music, that's why it's “Stay Human” and it's not just about “Social Music” it's about the intent of the music, bringing people with different backgrounds together, and I believe the power of music can do that. So that's what I'm doing with it.
Alan Bryson: How long have had that feeling, that you didn't just want to play music, but to touch people, and move the world along?
Jon Batiste: I think all of the musicians from the past whom I've admired, if you go back and look at the history, the cultural impact that they had was something that they were consciously striving towards, or it was something that simply happened through the power of the art that they created. They always had a powerful impact on the culture, and it was for better. I think that's always been the thing that's inspired me, just as much, or dare I say, even more than their musical contribution.
Alan Bryson: Could you maybe cite a few of them in particular?
Jon Batiste: Duke Ellington is always one of the first people who comes to mind. Just in the nature of the style I use to lead the band, it is basically styled from Duke Ellington. Beyond that, the things that he represented outside of music, in the culture and tradition of African Americans and the culture of equality. Or expression-- it's endless what you could talk about in terms of how Duke Ellington has influenced me.
Alan Bryson: You know, it's interesting, John Coltrane in his album A Love Supreme wrote a poem for the liner notes, and it ends with these words:
"ELATION--ELEGANCE--EXALTATION--All from God. Thank you God. Amen."
When I think about that and your album, somehow ELATION—ELEGANCE—EXALTATION, I think that's a pretty apt description of what you achieved on this album. And you also share his message of God, and God is Love.
Jon Batiste: Well John Coltrane is another person I would name, he is certainly in the top five in term of influence, and in terms of his philosophical direction. And the beauty of that is whether that's your faith or not, or whatever you believe in, the impact on the people and the culture is positive because it's rooted in love and loving kindness, and that's really something that people can benefit from in these times that we are living.
Alan Bryson: I thought that was very insightful of you when you composed the song Let God Lead, that you opened it up to people who come from a humanist tradition, because you immediately follow “Let God lead” with “Let love lead.” It opens the song up to everyone, and I thought that was a beautiful way of approaching that.
Jon Batiste: Right! For me, it's not about proselytizing. I'm not thinking about it in the sense of “I want you believe what I believe.” It's just more about bringing people together. It's about feeling the power of the art, and music being the universal language, why would you limit it to anything, you have to open it in order for it to have its full potency. So I want people to come together through my music, and Social Music is a montage of musical traditions coming from our experience, and we've been together for so long – it's really got a lot of love in it, and a lot of experiences we want to share with people.
End of part one
Deutsch
meine grobe Übersetzung
Alan Bryson: Wir haben nicht viel Zeit und ich muss zugeben, ich bin wirklich fasziniert von deiner Einstellung zur Musik, ich bin beeindruckt von deiner Weltanschauung, ich bin neugierig über deine zukünftigen Pläne und ich bin zufällig ein großer Fan der Serie Treme, also muss ich meine Zeit weise einsetzen.
Jon Batiste: Okay, fangen wir an.
Alan Bryson: Wenn man den Namen deiner Band, Stay Human, den Titel deines Albums, Social Music und die Texte des Songs anschaut, Let God Lead, dann fängt man an zu verstehen, wer du als Person bist und was du als Künstler zu erreichen versuchst. Stimmt das, und könntest du das vielleicht vertiefen?
Jon Batiste: Absolut, damit ist alles ausgesagt. Es ist wie das erste Kapitel eines Buches das ich schreibe. Also erfand ich eine Geschichte und begann mit dem Album. Den Track, den du erwähntest, ist eine Art von philosophischer Richtung, die auch über die Musik hinausgeht – und für mich ist es mehr als Musik, deshalb ist es "Stay Human" und es geht nicht nur um "Social Music", sondern um die Absicht der Musik. Für mich bedeutet das, Menschen mit unterschiedlichen Hintergründen zusammenzubringen. Deshalb mache ich das alles.
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Alan Bryson: Wie lange hast du das Gefühl gehabt, dass du nicht nur Musik spielen, sondern auch Menschen berühren und die Welt mitreißen wolltest?
Jon Batiste: Ich denke alle Musiker aus der Vergangenheit, die ich bewunderte, haben gezielt etwas angestrebt, oder es passierte etwas durch die Kraft der Kunst, die sie kreierten. Sie hatten immer einen starken Einfluss auf die Kultur und sie verbessert. Ich denke, das war immer das, was mich inspiriert hat, genau so viel, oder ich wage zu sagen, sogar mehr als ihr musikalischer Beitrag.
Alan Bryson: Könntest du vielleicht ein paar von ihnen nennen?
Jon Batiste: Duke Ellington ist immer einer der ersten Personen, der mir einfällt. Genau die Art des Stils, den ich benutze, um die Band zu leiten, ist im Wesentlichen von Duke Ellington inspiriert. Darüber hinaus, was er außerhalb der Musik darstellte – in Bezug auf die Kultur und Tradition der Afroamerikaner und ihr Streben nach Gleichheit -- es ist endlos, worüber man sprechen kann, wie Duke Ellington mich beeinflusst hat.
Alan Bryson: In seinem Album A Love Supreme, schrieb John Coltrane ein Gedicht für die Liner Notes und es endet mit den Worten:
"ELATION - ELEGANCE - EXALTATION - Alles von Gott. Danke Gott. Amen."
Wenn ich darüber nachdenke, ist das eine ziemlich treffende Beschreibung von dem, was du auf diesem Album erreicht hast. Und du teilst auch seine Botschaft über Gott und die Liebe.
Jon Batiste: Nun, John Coltrane ist noch eine Person, die ich nennen würde, er ist zweifellos einer der Top Fünf in Bezug auf Einfluss und philosophische Richtung. Und das Schöne daran ist, ob das dein Glaube ist oder nicht, oder was auch immer du glaubst, die Auswirkungen auf die Menschen und die Kultur sind positiv, weil sie in Liebe und liebender Güte verwurzelt sind und das ist wirklich etwas, dass wir leben.
Alan Bryson: Ich dachte, das war sehr geschickt, als du das Lied "Let God Lead" komponiertest, dass du es für Menschen, die aus einer humanistischen Tradition stammen, zugänglich gemacht hast. Sofort nach „Let God Lead“ hast du „Let Love Lead“ gesungen. Das war ein schöner Weg das Lied für alle zugänglich zu machen.
Jon Batiste: Richtig! Für mich geht es nicht um Missionierung. Ich denke nicht im Sinne von "Ich will, dass du glaubst, was ich glaube." Es geht nur darum, Menschen zusammenzubringen. Es geht darum, die Kraft der Kunst zu spüren. Die Musik ist die universelle Sprache, warum sollte man sie auf etwas beschränken? Man muss sie öffnen, damit sie ihre volle Kraft entfalten kann. Also möchte ich, dass die Leute durch meine Musik zusammenkommen. Die „Social Music“ ist eine Montage musikalischer Traditionen, die aus unserer Erfahrung als langjährige Bandmitglieder hervorgegangen ist - es steckt wirklich viel Liebe und eine Menge Erfahrungen darin, das wir mit Menschen teilen wollen.
Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you come back for part 2!
Photo is a YouTube screen capture with effects by @roused
You can download or stream the original interview here
I was lucky to attend the second Late Show with Stephen Colbert and sat a row back from Jon Batiste and Stay Human. He was incredible, engaging, creative and really got the crowd going. I was lucky because it was an early taping so Jon played a few extra pieces that they were testing out on the crowd. I've never heard such a fresh fusion of old and new the way he did it. Anyway, it's amazing that you got to interview him! Thanks so much for sharing this. :)
I remember about a half year after this interview he was a guest on "The Colbert Report" and he gave Colbert a retort that made him raise his eyebrows. I heard Colbert never forgot that and when he got the "Late Show" he hired Jon Batiste. Here he is leaving the "Colbert Report" ;-)
Glad you're back posting about music! I started missing your inspirational and insightful approach to tell the stories behind the curtain. Like "music being the universal language" "bringing people together" through "the power of the art". Thanks and "let love lead!" ;-)
Thanks buddy! It's interesting how often musicians have mentioned to me that music is the universal language. It really is the language of the soul, what a glorious gift.
Indeed, let love lead
Listening to his music, I feel the tapestry of my soul pieces on a hot tin stake!
I may need @bree1042 to interpret that idiom for me ;-) Thank you for stopping by Tata!
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