SKELETON OF A BETTER MOVIE - Suicide Squad (2016)

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Hello and welcome to my newest ongoing feature: Skeleton of a Better Movie where together we explore the premise that inside every shitty movie there's a leaner smarter movie screaming to get out. Our task is to gouge past the bloated waste of dollars and follow the screams.

Needless to say, this is a format that is laden with spoilers. Recognize, accept and we'll move on.

Squad Goals!!! ... and Joker.


Today, we are tackling Suicide Squad, DC's first try at pulling out of the grimdark tailspin that Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman had locked them into (obviously, Wonder Woman was much more successful at this)

Ironic, given that the original Ostrander comics were pretty damn dark anyway (albeit leavened with the comedic stylings of Captain Boomerang) in a quasi-military-espionage-with-superpowers sort of way.

Anyway, after Guardians of the Galaxy came out to massive success, DC thought "hey, we can do that" and did reshoots and new trailers with catchy upbeat indie tunes. Hooray.

"Heathens" is a great song by the way.

Movie still turned out to be shit -- but only mostly shit and it made a decent chunk of change.

Alright, enough preamble. I give you .... SKELETON OF A BETTER MOVIE!!!

and ... heeeere .... weeeee ... go!


  • for starters, Suicide Squade should have been a hard R, not whatever weaksauce rating it actually got. Deadpool (and Blade long before) proved R-rated superheroics can succeed spectacularly

  • cold open should have been Enchantress and her brother in the antedeluvian past. So his phylactery doesn't come out of fricking NOWHERE

  • Belle Reeve etc as before. I rather liked the asshole Warden. Whole prison sequence was cool, let's keep that.

  • oh and have Superman's death happen during the movie so Waller has to scramble for a new hook in her pitch to the generals which leads us to ...

  • ... so hey, remember that weapons program document she teleported and stole as a demonstration for the Joint Chiefs? That should have been the mission for numerous reasons ----> (1) it fits the kind of mission old-school comicbook!Squad used to go on in the Ostrander days (2) makes Slipknot non-useless before his inevitable death (3) gives the stakes somewhere higher to go -- I mean, wouldn't it have been nice to NOT have YET ANOTHER superhero movie with YET ANOTHER cosmic-toilet-on-fire in the sky at the climax?

also? easily could have saved Final!Boss!Enchantress for the second or even third movie. And saved her stupid dance for never.


  • would have been nice to have one of the generals or spooks point out that "Hahaha, this bunch of losers is your anti-Superman deterrent? You're full of shit, Waller" and then have her counter that the Squad makes (a) a great proof of concept for the real anti-Kryptonian squad and (b) you don't call up what you can't put down.

  • should have had the mission go FUBAR from multiple angles (such as Boomerang gaming Slipknot into making a break for it a little later -- thus at least giving Slipknot long enough to get one or two badass moments before dying like the expendable mook we all knew he was)

this is the part where we take a moment to point and laugh at Sir Slipknot THE USELESS


-- unanticipated metahuman opposition (good way to insert some old-school Squad enemies here -- like Rustam for instance or the Hayoth. They were fun)
-- Waller not telling the rest of the team that the ulterior mission (known only to Flagg and Moone) is to steal a mystical artifact
-- Waller herself not knowing the artifact is Enchantress' bro's phylactery, Enchantress herself not knowing either till she gets close enough to sense it
-- maybe the weapons program WAS an attempt to weaponize the magical phylactery (again, unknown to all but Flagg, Moone and Waller)
-- someone dying because Katana took her mission as keeping Flagg alive and NOT as helping HIS mission
-- the phylactery breaks open AND/OR is deliberately broken open by SOMEONE and THEN you have your bubbleface magic zombie mooks spreading like an infection through the soldiers, scientists and employees. Thus turning the perfectly servicable metahuman black ops mission into a Cthulhuoid nightmare of magic and powers and madness

Basically? That old chestnut about no plan surviving contact with the enemy and its corollary, that no enemy plan will (or should) survive contact with you.

  • it then becomes a race against time to find a solution before Waller blackmails an ally in the region into nuking the joint or repositions a kinetic harpoon killsat over their heads
  • headshots and spineshots and kneeshots and eviscerations will render the magic bubbleface zombie mooks temporarily hors de combat so Deadshot, Harley, Boomerang and Croc can still have their fun but ...
  • El Diablo can kill them dead (first sign that his fire is special
  • Emphasize this with Deadshot using incendiary rounds and NOT achieving the same effect
  • Katana's weapon is the only other thing that keeps the monsters down because her weapon is a soul-prison and Enchantress' bro is in essence a viral soul now. Every time she kills one, she gets a piece of him stuck in her blade
  • perhaps she figures it out before anyone else, stabs the phylactery and SAVES THE DAY by doing so. Enchantress is transcendentally furious ON THE INSIDE, Waller can call off her WWIII-inducing airstrike and all is well ... hahahahah yeah right.

Katana now has the soul of a monstrously ancient, powerful and evil sorcerer trapped in her blade, blackmailing her from the inside 24-7 with Enchantress HATING HER WITH THE FURY OF A THOUSAND SUNS from the outside, THE SQUAD is now united in their loathing of Waller (well, except maybe Deadshot and Harley, the former because he is Floyd's complete lack of surprise, the latter because she didn't particularly care to begin with)


Then there's the stuff that could have been improved on the individual character level:


enchantress transformation gif - tumblr_oanm88pX8O1uww0yno3_500.gif.

one of the very few legit cool moments in the movie? Yeah it is!


  • see previous.

  • additionally, have her foreshadow El Diablo's true nature and Katana -- or at least Katana's katana (instead of Flagg's stupid stupid stupid line about not being careful not to get killed by her)

  • metahumans are something genuinely new, broken science as distinct from magic. They hint at this in the movie. This is a good thing.

  • she should have been less powerful in the real movie (at least for now); should have needed blood sacrifices and glyphs and tools to achieve effects (dead enemy soldiers make great source for components. Rest of team winces. Except maybe Harley who is fascinated)

  • her goal with the brother's phylactery is to turbocharge her power level to what we saw in canon. Now she is forced to wait for the sequel just like the rest of us (and is really pissed at Katana. See above)

  • obviously, she wants the katana now. Sequel fodder!


Suicide Squad - Dr Moone Screenshot.jpg

for starters, let's not have her be just along for the ride, eh?


  • She could totally be Not!Lara Croft (PhDs out the ass plus wingsuiting cavediving adrenaline junkie)
  • have her contending seriously with The Enchantress, hard enough not to let her kill Flagg (or Katana)
  • although her preventing the latter is more out of spite for her mystic roommate than any love for the swordswoman
  • rapidly becoming OR already was Waller's mystical consultant in her own right


basically canon


  • might explicitly make him metahuman though. Give him the Bullseye killset as well (inhuman accuracy with ALL projectile weapons, not just firearms)
  • maybe he doesn't know he's a metahuman and maybe Waller uses it against him psychologically -- or Flagg does, vindictively ("What, you actually thought you were 'just that good'? Nobody is just that good !")
  • maybe the classic comicbook!Deadshot deathwish gets expressed as being willing to be cut by Katana so his soul doesn't go to hell especially now he knows supernatural shit is real
  • maybe she tells him that inside the sword is worse.


Let's make this explicit, why not: Joker's chemical soup is an accidental makeshift super-soldier serum with unfortunate effects on mental stability. Hence, Harley is straight-up ultraviolent metahuman escape artist with voices in her head (and also, yoga aerialist) while Joker is ... Joker

  • maybe the enhanced reflexes mean everyone is in slow-mo which is frustrating and she acts out and Joker too and they see each other at normal speed and so and hence, luuuuuuuurrrrve
  • discovers (to her amusement) that she is in all seriousness not the craziest person on the team
  • essentially same character arc as the existing movie (surprised by feelings that just might be loyalty? to these people plus/and/or liking not being in Joker's shadow for once, yet still bonded to him by their mad love or whatever)



  • his tattoos? Nobody knows this -- except maybe him and Enchantress -- but NO HUMAN HANDS put them there
  • makes Enchantress uncomfortable. Doesn't know it.
  • maybe HE's the one who is very comfortable with dying to Katana's soul-sucking blade because he doesn't want to go to hell after all he's done
  • yeah, I like it for El Diablo. Guilt over his family, emphasizes just how messed-up these individuals are


dumbest line in superhero movie history since "What happens to a toad when it's hit by lightning?"


  • Katana intro scene could have been vastly improved with LESS exposition and more mystery. Just stop at "This is Katana. She's got my back."
  • Have it turn out later that she is extremely literal about that; let's have a sequence where she seriousface watches a member of the Team die because they are NOT Flagg. Like Cameron back in Terminator: SCC letting that woman die. Because Terminator. During the mission, she only lifts a finger to protect Flagg or herself. In that order. Until, you know, character development.
  • The soul-taking we see later and it is fucked-up.
  • Enchantress can be the vaguesposition fairy and foreshadow it -- poorly (cue Deadshot yelling at her later "Lady, a simple 'that thing steals souls' woulda been REAL HANDY A MINUTE AGO!"


can't have two black guys in your superhero movie, the spacetime continuum might sustain a wedgie!


  • Croc was essentially perfect. Just play up the superstrength and the aquatic infiltrator abilities even more (perhaps, he does a little underwater demolition and insertion practice with the SEALs during a quickie training montage and has some fun with it, swims rings around them and whatnot. They are low-key pissed because this shit is the handwriting on the wall: Tier-1 special ops pipe-hitters with years of hardcore training/experience getting sidelined by freaks with bullshit powers


wooooo Tier-1 pipehitters fuck yeah!


  • some vindictive insecurity about metahumans taking his job, hides it better than the boys on his spec ops security blanket he brung with him but it's there
  • I loved how he was constantly the most badass damsel in distress throughout the movie. We have to keep that!
  • the noodle incident that resulted in Katana becoming his sworn bodyguard, will we ever get to see it? The World May Never Know
  • how does Moon feel about it? Good question
  • THINKS he knows how exactly hardcore Waller is. Doesn't. Learns by the end of the movie and finds himself in the same position as Harley: surprised by strange and unfamiliar feelings of 'is this LOYALTY?' toward the team


got nothing bad to say about her. Viola Davis always rocks.


  • perhaps during her pitch to the generals she could say something like "Einstein (or whoever) once said he didn't know what weapons WWIII would be fought with. Well, thanks to the big blue Caucasian falling out of the sky, we do now." One of the generals can later rebut with "he concluded that quote with 'but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones.' Careful what lamps you rub, Waller; you might not be able to put the genie back." Or something in that vein.
  • Deadshot gives Waller the Black People Upward Nod. You know, the one where Black Person A sees Black Person B in a position of unexpected but welcome success in America or some other white people land. We saw a touch of that in canon when he dissed Flagg but we could emphasize it more. He legit respecks her for being a black woman AND an unequivocal shadow powerhouse of the Deep State, the underbelly of the military-geopolitical complex. She recognizes that respect and somewhere deep inside the ice and iron that makes the Wall, is quietly delighted because she is black from the hood and she GETS IT -- yet she exploits that respect just as ruthlessly as she does everything else because that's just how the Wall rolls.


  • ... yeah, i got nothin' for him. Fuck that guy.


Joker Icon Suicide Squad Poster - CvcxD09UMAANWFC.jpg

  • I think I might be one of the eleven people on the planet who actually liked this version of Joker, Miley Cyrus panda suits on the mooks and dumbass grill and all
  • that part after he gets Quinzel to jump into the Joker chemical soup and then finds he literally CAN'T make himself not go in after her? Perfection. That part was brilliant; the surprised-amused-resignation on his face, the dive, the music, the clothes, everything just worked in that sequence
  • also kind of didn't mind the Deus Ex Joker bullshit of him managing to show up in the middle of classified black ops a million miles from Gotham. He's the Joker, he kicks Batman's ass all day, he ain't gotta explain shit.

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Oooh I really enjoyed this movie, and especially the character Harley! She was spine chillingly good!

Yeah, Harley was easily the best part of the movie. Remember that part after the helicopter crashed and she thought the Joker was dead? The way she reassembled her persona right before the rest of the Squad showed up? That was some quality acting right there.

Both the actress and the character deserved a better movie to be in.

This post could have been twice as long and it still wouldn't have covered all the issues with this film lol

Hahahaha -- I know, right? Maybe the post itself will get a sequel, lol.

I watched the movie and found it quite entertaining.

Heehehehe, me too! I wouldn't have put so much thought and so many words into posting about it if I hadn't enjoyed it and watched it multiple times :D

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Wow, you must be a real movie fan

You are not wrong about that, hahhaha. I'll check out your post now.

a lot of solid choices here. it's unfortunate that the studio thought that THIS was the movie to reset the dogshit that the DC movies have been since the last Nolan Batman flick (and really...will they ever get better than that? i seriously doubt it)

but man, i really couldn't take Leto seriously as the Joker. maybe if he had come between Jack and Heath? possibly. but it's gonna take a real serious incarnation to replace what Ledger did for that particular villain.

but god i wanted this movie to be so, so, so much better than it actually was. with the cast they threw together, you'd think they would've spent some seriously money on the writing too.

but man, i really couldn't take Leto seriously as the Joker. maybe if he had come between Jack and Heath? possibly. but it's gonna take a real serious incarnation to replace what Ledger did for that particular villain.

Heheheheh. For some reason, I just really liked this version of the Joker. Something about the visuals and the clothes and the practicality he had running beneath the smiley bullshit.

(and really...will they ever get better than that? i seriously doubt it)

I dunno, Wonder Woman was impressive. Not perfect but easily the best DC movie since the Dark Knight movies.

but god i wanted this movie to be so, so, so much better than it actually was. with the cast they threw together, you'd think they would've spent some seriously money on the writing too

Too right, man, too right. It could so easily have been so much better. Too many cooks syndrome, a pretty common trait in movies of this coulda-shoulda-been-good nature.

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one of my favourites movies...

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This is really cool, the movie was fun to watch and I also think a lot could have been different but looking at yours:

  • Cold open with enchantress would have been pointing the movie in the wrong direction.
  • They're playing with timelines here so Superman's death can't happen during!
  • 'cosmic-toilet-on-fire' 😂😂😂 Good one!
  • Yeah Enchantress was too good an opponent to be taken down in the first one, but she's not the greatest opponent and there's a lot of catching up to be done.
  • "have her contending seriously with The Enchantress, hard enough not to let her kill Flagg"
The characters are probably being left loose for the sequel if any, we're all just really waiting for the final crisis.

Yeah Enchantress was too good an opponent to be taken down in the first one ...

Yes. There are other oppponents. I'm just thinking that the Suicide Squad is not optimized for fighting that level of Big Bad. Big supernatural threats are supposed to be for the Justice League.

The Squad is supposed to handle black ops missions: assassinations, regime destabilization, stealing prototype weapons and mystical artifacts -- like a dark-side A-Team with metahumans.

I so wish "toilet-on-fire" was original to me. Warren Ellis is a genius and Planetary is amazing.

Re: timelines: In the setting, Superman's death happened before the start of the Suicide Squad movie. Yet Waller sold the squad to the Joint Chiefs as an anti-Kryptonian measure. Obviously bullshit and she should have been called on it.

His death happening during the movie would have given us an opportunity to see Waller have to dance between the raindrops for a bit, to play a bad hand brilliantly like Adelle DeWitt.

Justice League was not yet in play!

Anti-kryptonian not anti-superman, the necessity of such a measure is the likes of Zod and Doomsday and with big S out of commission and growing number of metahumans they needed a disposable squad to take care of one way missions.

I know just funny that you used that description. 😁 (t-o-f)

The 'timelines' I'm talking of is that there'll be a few movies before the next Justice League and they want to be able to have wiggle room with various characters. But you're on to something though, guess we should have seen more. 👍

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