but man, i really couldn't take Leto seriously as the Joker. maybe if he had come between Jack and Heath? possibly. but it's gonna take a real serious incarnation to replace what Ledger did for that particular villain.

Heheheheh. For some reason, I just really liked this version of the Joker. Something about the visuals and the clothes and the practicality he had running beneath the smiley bullshit.

(and really...will they ever get better than that? i seriously doubt it)

I dunno, Wonder Woman was impressive. Not perfect but easily the best DC movie since the Dark Knight movies.

but god i wanted this movie to be so, so, so much better than it actually was. with the cast they threw together, you'd think they would've spent some seriously money on the writing too

Too right, man, too right. It could so easily have been so much better. Too many cooks syndrome, a pretty common trait in movies of this coulda-shoulda-been-good nature.