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RE: New Notification Popup For JSEcoin Browser Mining

in #mining8 years ago (edited)

It's stuff like this why I don't endorse you as a witness, starting with when you rage quit as witness and on Steem before doing a 180 some months back:

I politely pointed them to my initial announcement and to the notification from JSEcoin, and from this point the discussion spiraled out of control, when the usual Steemit hypocrites entered the scene, imparting their on the spot knowledge and advice about how things should work in the site that I built, and pointing in rage how unethical I was. Although everything I did was in the open, obviously, and I never concealed anything about my experiments, especially the contributions I make as a witness, like steem.supply.

Whatever dude, I'm done. Later.
Okay that ^^^ was a bit dramatic, but I am disappointed at the attitude.

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I don't understand. What part of this is making you NOT to endorse me?

As for me leaving the platform a while ago and then coming back, what's about that? Was I not transparent about that too? Was I not giving the reasons? Also, is there a life contract signed with Steemit? Or with you? Am I not allowed to go back and forth? Am I not free to do what I want?

Oh, and if you felt offended about the "hypocrites" part, you're not part of that team. I always had decent, honest and correct interactions with you.

Do as you wish :)

Oh 😅 I certainly did, I was going on and on about ethics all day!

The thing that leads me to not endorse you is that the above quoted section shows an unwillingness to take the issue head on. I of course had to assume I was lumped in with the so-called hypocrites because I wasn't a reporter, and you didn't mention that anyone could have had a legitimate point in criticizing you.

I think it's a pretty cool project, I think you're competent and I'm glad of the change, I wish you the best but man the spin is too much!

Hmm, I suppose you didn't see this comment, from the JSEcoin dev.

The most interesting part:

Certainly the privacy notice is our responsibility and not the publishers so any negative comments there should be directed at us and we will take them into account.

So yes, I do think I took everything head on, I commented on all the posts that were talking about the situation and gave the authors all the information. But the needle kept moving with every information that I gave and soon I realized I was accused of being unethical without any reasonable argument, for the sake of being accused.

I do enjoy criticism and you can look at all the critics I had about steem.supply over the last months. When I'm wrong I accept it and do my best to correct it.

But when I'm right, I'm right. And I won't bend just to please some hypocrites.

Oh, and this wasn't criticism. That was Steemit hate machine, putting people down just because they can. Drunk with power, people start flagging content because the author is unethical, although they had no idea that a browser can mine, until 10 minutes ago. That was hypocrisy. The Steemit diva almost had a heart attack, and fell in shock abut the fact that I was unethical because I couldn't display a notice that I couldn't control. I can't disable or enable that notification, it was not on me.

And other guy was going on and on about how CPU intensive mining is, he knows that because he mines with 32 GPUs, but he had no idea about JSEcoin. Read the comment above to see how much CPU JSE mining is using. People assumed I was stealing from them, without bother to verify first, or to believe me. And they kept accusing me, without checking the facts.

What happened, after all this drama, was that I did what I would have done anyway, passing the feedback back to the devs and after that it's up to them to do (or not do) something about that feedback. Fortunately, they did and the outcome was positive.

But somehow in this process I woke up being the fuck, the cunt, the thief...

It would have been way, way, way, way, way easier if any of the guys concerned would have ask me first about it, in a comment, message or in the chat. But you know what? That doesn't make money. But an article about people stealing CPU makes a lot of money. Both articles made more than $60. And I made $3 on this. I'm ok with that, by the way, I'm just pointing that there is another stake behind the so-called ethical stuff. I'm pointing at hypocrisy. An article in which you spread FUD and find a plausible situation in which somebody steals, that makes money. You don't even have to verify, if it's plausible, people will believe it. Everybody with a beard is a terrorist, right?

So yes, I will spin this wheel for as long as I please because I. Did. Nothing. Wrong.

And I'm the one who should receive an apology.

You used other peoples' CPU cycles for crypto mining without asking consent and with minimal notice, that was something you did wrong. Just because you can do something with a disclaimer doesn't mean you should, i.e. that it's right. And just because the 3rd party did what businesses usually do and own up to fault doesn't mean you shouldn't either. You are responsible for the 3rd party software you use.

The other thing you did wrong was trying to misdirect the attention to the relatively light load the mining incurs and personal attacks. That was not straight up. You did engage in the comments but consistently dodged the idea you had responsibility. Many commenters were polite, such as me, but you often weren't.

I don't think apologies are required from anyone, but you did not do due diligence.

EDIT: I think you are owed an apology from anyone who didn't treat you with dignity. Perhaps you owe an apology to people who's CPU cycles you used for mining but that weren't aware it was happening, perhaps not, that's for you to decide. If it was me I would.

You used other peoples' CPU cycles for crypto mining without asking consent and with minimal notice, that was something you did wrong.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. And again, wrong. I will continue to say this until you get it. Every time people were loading the site there was a notice that was displayed by jsecoin, as per their comment. Every hour.

I did ask for consent and you - for reasons beyond my comprehension - choose to ignore this hard, cold fact.

As for the "many comments being polite" (yours were, indeed) how about getting called a cunt, a fuck, a thief? Like really, let's make a test. Imagine that somebody is calling you a fuck and a thief right now and you did noting wrong. How would you feel? What would you do?

The other thing you did wrong was trying to misdirect the attention to the relatively light load the mining incurs and personal attacks.

Really? That was a misdirection? You call some transparent tests misdirection? Don't you see how you move the needle? First it's you didn't give notice. Then it's you did give notice, but it wasn't enough (who says what's enough, in this case, by the way?). Then it's: you may gave some notice, maybe enough, but you stole CPU. And I point that I didn't steal more CPU than a website which is not properly coded. Or, as the JSEcoin developer said, less than a video ad loading.

Oh, and if I point that a site is not well coded, it's not criticism (that should be handled upfront, like you said) but personal attacks?

I'm focused on facts, not on opinions. Maybe that's the fundamental difference between our perspectives.

You didn't ask for consent, you notified (poorly) after it was already happening. That's a fact, not an opinion.

The rest is smoke and mirrors.

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