Reply to Max Igan

in #love7 years ago (edited)

I could not figure out how to reply to Max's latest post, so I am going to have to make a story of my own I guess, although I would have preferred to comment on his post directly.

https://steemit.com/life/@maxigan/what-is-your-stake-in-the-outcome

"It is also the fact that people are 'trying' to maintain a high vibration rather than simply being in one. You either do, or you do not, there is no try."
--> Absolutely!! I could not agree more. While I do not condone repression or inauthenticity, there ARE ways of moving from one state of being to another. I have found meditation and mantras, gratitude journaling and friendship, to be the most profound ways of changing my vibration. And when I am triggered (meaning I have been sucked into a negative vortex), I find the best way of handling it is to disengage from the source, if I can. This is from my own personal experience as a TI. Also - this is something that takes commitment, and awareness. It is not an overnight process. But it is the kind of work that ANYBODY can do ANYTIME ANYWHERE no matter what they are doing and who they are. No meeting to go to, no funding or website required.

"People, when interacting with the world or other people from inside the vessel they inhabit often view completely insignificant and trivial activities as being of profound importance. But really, when one steps back from the vessel and looks at humanity as a whole, most especially 'civilized' humanity, are the actions you are performing or the situations you are getting pent up about really that important? Indeed when looking at humanity as a collective, what exactly is this greatly important purpose we supposedly serve? The reality is that the majority of people in the modern world spend most of their time engaged in completely meaningless activities in order to collect enough paper to pay the cost of being alive, and most of the activities we are engaged in are simply ensuring that future generations will have a very difficult and highly toxic environment in which to survive."
--> While I completely understand Max's frustrations here (I have been feeling the same way for many years now) this paragraph just feels so completely disempowering to me. What happened to the power of the "ordinary" person? I have definitely heard Max talk about that before - that we are powerful, creative individuals, and that we have the power to change things. While I agree in feeling like, hey, if it doesn't have to do with freeing humanity on some level, then what's the point? - I think that Max is focusing on the DOING as what will save us, rather than the BEING. And Max actually touches upon this point later on in his article. He flirts with the concept of the awakened watcher. So he is almost there, really.

My two cents aside:
I would ask what Mr. Igan's proposed solution to this issue of banal, enslaved existence is? Clearly he is not unplugged from the system - because he is using a computer and has websites. To be totally unplugged would require somebody to live in an area tax free (such as a national forest) and live off of their wits alone.

I looked at Max's Full Circle Response website. And while I admire his passion and desire for change, I just see it as another leaf stuck in the eddies of the river of life. I started a non profit in 2007 with the same exact desire for change. But then I realized that my visions did not match the reality I was facing. I had no idea how to mobilize people to create the kinds of community-wide changes I was hoping for. And of course there was the issue of funding. And so we again look at what we are up against, and wonder what to do about it.

I also do not see the legal system as the bastion of redemption that we would like to think it is. I have personally been in court more times than I would like to count for custody related matters. And I see very clearly that our legal system is just another cog in the machine that we are struggling against. It is really not designed to deliver the kind of freedom that Max, and so many of us who are awakened and angry about being a mind controlled and manipulated slave, would fight for.

"In some of the most difficult and sometimes dangerous situations of my life, I have always been able to sit back and watch the situation unfold from outside myself, like a 3rd person sitting unseen in the room. By doing that, in some situations others may find precarious or even scary I have often simply found it incredibly fascinating that me of all people would actually be there it all to even find myself in that position. I find I am able to do this simply by remove any stake I may have in the outcome of anything I'm doing."
--> This is an excellent aside from Max where he touches upon becoming the "watcher" - operating from a higher level of awareness. This level does not fight, merely observes. While I agree that detaching from expectations is beneficial in the process (this is known as attachment in the Bugghist philosophy), I believe that our very existence in the physical means that we have a stake in the outcome. It is why we are here in the first place.

"Remember, we are seeking to identify the root cause of the problem in order to find effective remedy and to avoid putting a plaster on the symptom. This is how true healing takes place."
->EXCELLENT.

My take:
I personally have found, upon deep spiritual introspection and careful examination, that the ROOT CAUSE is EVIL. And the SOLUTION is LOVE. Yes, you are right - we cannot "make" ourselves feel love when we are being beaten. That is false, and a repressive approach, entirely disingenuous. But we can learn to start by loving ourselves. We must realize that we are NOT evil. We are MANIPULATED to do evil things!!! This is what psychotronics and mind control do to us!!! And it didn't just start 100 years ago with the introduction of the radio.

Just think - on the whole, wouldn't you say that people are generally good? Sure, they may be clueless some of them. But that doens't mean that they are bad. And how does good beget evil?? Well, I'll tell you. It DOESN'T!!! The idea that we are EVIL and sinners is a LIE used to blame and shame us into submission!!!! The EVIL comes from outside of ourselves, and has been put on us to manipulate us from "time immemorial."

So as Max says in a video presentation of his that I watched on Youtube, you cannot blame the human perpetrators for what they do. They are being programmed. This is also an excellent way of practicing LOVE and COMPASSION in our daily lives - to realize that the beings around us, even those who are hurting us, are being manipulated to do so. When you cannot love your enemies, walk away from them. Do not hand them the weapons they will then use against you. But when you can, see if you can remind yourself that they, too, are victims of this manipulative system.

When we realize that we are inherently good - in fact, made of pure love - that is the first step. Blame and shame is not the answer. Nor is fighting amongst ourselves. Nor is fighting in general. Really. Think about the hydra - it is more than just an entertaining story. Look at past revolutions and where they got us (think the Communist party). And what about the Borg? (Resistance is futile).

I believe that non-resistance, paired with meditation, positive thinking, and LOVE is indeed the answer. I know it is. I just KNOW it. In my bones.

So, what can we do about the shitty situations we find ourselves in? Check out and go hide in the national forest and live off of bugs? If that's what you want to do, sure. I don't see most people opting for that though. And if they did, then we would have a problem on our hands of too many people in the forests and we'd all be kicked off the land and our dwellings demolished. Even an ecovillage has to worry about taxes for the land they're living on, so they still have to play by the system's rules. I say, BLOOM WHERE YOU ARE PLANTED!

Employ tactics that enable you to raise your vibrations to a higher level. Paired with awareness of our power as beings of LOVE, and FEARLESSNESS in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds, we CAN INDEED bring ourselves to a point ENERGETICALLY that becomes the remedy for what ails us. The power of our higher vibrations and our LOVE does indeed move mountains, and transforms the world more effectively and completely than any band-aid solution we have tried thus far.

"The reality is that the majority of people in the modern world spend most of their time engaged in completely meaningless activities in order to collect enough paper to pay the cost of being alive, and most of the activities we are engaged in are simply ensuring that future generations will have a very difficult and highly toxic environment in which to survive."
-->I agree, but what is your grand solution?? We are all stuck in this together - very few of us can just drop everything and go live in a national forest, tax free, and live off our wits (meaning check out of the system). And if we do not check out of the system, then we are required to follow the rules in order to survive. So while I completely agree with and understand what you are saying here, I do not see any helpful solutions here. Just angry talk about the shittiness of our situation.

"It's peoples belief that they truly do have a stake in the outcome of their actions that causes so much anxiety and stress in people when the really is that they don't."
-->We DO have a stake, otherwise we wouldn't be here. Our stake is to raise the vibration and spread LOVE. We can't really fight the system and ultimately win in the ways we would think. It is too all encompassing and tricky. It morphs and changes and reacts to our actions, adapts. It is the hydra. What we CAN do is to live in LOVE despite of it all. THIS is something that they cannot take away from us, and if we endeavor to uphold LOVE, help each other, love each other, forgive, live in gratitude, spread the truth and raise awareness, then it doesn't matter what they throw at us. They cannot fight LOVE. Higher vibrations are impervious to mind control by the way.

"None of the social issues are important. None of the work we do to earn our daily bread is important. In fact most of what we do is completely meaningless."
-->While much of what we do to "survive" may seem meaningless, our existence is NOT. We exist for a very good reason. While much of what we do (work a job like a rat in a wheel to keep the system that is enslaving us going) seems pointless, when we do it with LOVE - suddenly, it is not. If we do what we do from a place of LOVE, then ANYTHING we do has purpose and meaning. It is when we do it without love - that is when it becomes pointless. So our BEING is the stake and our purpose, which, when enlightened, imbues EVERYTHING we do with meaning and import. Chop wood, carry water.

"Mundane activity designed to keep us busy and distracted so we never get the time to step back and see what we are missing and what we are really doing."
-->If we can hold on to LOVE, then nothing is lost, it is not wasted.


Dr. RAUNI KILDE ~ "Global Illumination & Spiritual Awareness"
1:01:15 - why are we re-creating negativity? it is NOT about making more war, about aggressive fighting. it is about LOVE and LIGHT, thinking it, sending it. It is about loving and transmuting through LOVE. That could be done. If we use our brain capacity, we can change the mountains. The power of thought. We are very powerful beings of light.
-->NO fear. Awareness. Spread the word. Love and light. Positivity.

This woman was speaking the TRUTH and she was REALLY ON TO SOMETHING with the positive thinking, with the love and light. I believe that is why she was taken out. She gave this interview in April of 2014. As you can see, she looks to be in excellent health. She was taken out for her audacity less than a year later, February 8, 2015. She died of "cancer all over the body."

http://whitetv.se/mind-control-mk-ultra/1149.html

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