Hmm yes, I live out in the jungle, not surrounded by many. I choose this for a reason. I agree, space was the issue, although, two things, we live in an infinite universe. Even though the globe is a finite resource we can easily imagine the infinite of energy in the world around us. Perhaps the collapse is just what people need to remind them? An ice age, lack of food and lack of jsut in time system would set that off relatively quickly. Seeing as space in cities is limited, and also where we see more of the dramatic effects on the social strain. Working together to recognize our older ideals can help, but it may well take very hard times, like we see highlighted in many times before, of a global scale. Also using our creativity to top off our survival skills, we may come out with a solution beyond all of our imaginations if we dont destroy it all and fail to support each other when the times come.