I too remember Icke on wogan, and he was the first person I followed as a truther, the more I learnt the less credible David Icke became, it's not what he says, it's what he doesn't say, the elite control all mainstream media so it's not surprising that they'll have their greasy paws into all the truth movement, the elite will bribe or threaten anyone with any influence, i saw it with my own eyes during the fuel protests of 2000. The shills spread doubt and controlled mixed truths to create confusion and ultimatly lethargy amongst truthers, assange , snowdon , manning do a good job on the sheeple and the likes of max and Ken are the sheepdogs for the rest of us .