Racist "libertarian" nationalists

in #libertarian5 years ago

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A Facebook group I was recently added to, with "libertarian" in the name, seems to mostly be a hangout for "white supremacists/nationalists" who want to pretend their stance is somehow "libertarian".

One recent post in the group claimed that since "94% of libertarians" are "white", a libertarian best serves his/her own interests by making sure to only do business with "white-owned" businesses.

I confessed in a comment that I have never once chosen to do business with a place based upon the "race" of the business' owner. I usually don't even know it, anyway, and I'm not going to waste time and effort finding out.

I'm much more concerned about whether or not the business owner supports individual liberty. If they have a "no guns" sign, or proclaim that they "support law enforcement" then I know they are anti-liberty and spending money with them only hurts my interests. The "color" of the owners never even crosses my mind, and it never would have had I not seen the post in that group.

But, the guy who made the post LOLed at me and said "Sure you haven't" and "^not a business owner" in reply to my response. Seriously.

I foolishly fed the troll and said that no, I really had never chosen a business based on the "race" of the owner-- I was only concerned with whether I could get what I wanted at a price I was willing to pay, and mentioned that I had owned a few businesses in the past and that I technically had a couple going on right now. (And I still don't care about the "race" of those I trade with.) I'm sure he believes I'm a liar, seeing his world-view is what it is.

I said I thought his was the most pointless, self-defeating criteria for choosing whom to trade with I had ever heard anyone admit to. He would be embarrassed if he had any sense. But he doesn't so he isn't.

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I've noticed some communities on Facebook are very mixed, some are racially charged, others are plagued by statist rhetoric.. its really hard to find a sincere decent community on Facebook.

Just makes me appreciate my FB cat groups more.

I am honestly sorry that you had that experience with Libertarians but I am glad you brought up this issue. It's painful to hear about the darker elements of the party for sure and I wish I could reach those people.

Unfortunately, I do not have much success talking to them because they absolutely do not have any love for me and the lifestyle I live, most would rather have me out the party indeed.

One thing I can do is reach out to those who have seen more of that side of the LP and try to provide a better conversation in the hope of getting you a positive experience with folk that identify this way.

Please let me know if I can help, thank you for reading this.

I'm not even sure any of them are in the Libertarian Party... they may be "small 'l'" (non)-libertarians.

Thank you for the kind response. Those folk make it hard to have principles, it feels like some are a lot more interested in pushing the limits of free speech than protecting it for instance.
It's disheartening to see ideas I consider to be morally correct being used by bullies as a shield when they want to stir up trouble.
My strategy of ignoring them is not working out though I have to admit, but like you said, engaging that crowd is beyond frustrating.
I'll do what I can here on Steemit about keeping the bar raised higher up over that muck, that's a promise.

Racism is the refuge of people so insecure and so devoid of personal accomplishments that they must resort to pseudoscience and prejudice to make themselves feel important.

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