What Would You Do If Governments Get Into STEEM? How Tailored Access Operations And Bad Guys With Deep Pockets Could Bury The Truth On STEEM

in #informationwar6 years ago

Blockchains take pride in being permission-less systems and that has been a great strength. But It is not a purely good thing. It's got pros and cons. On the good side we have a censorship free platform where everyone is given opportunity. Anybody with an internet connection can access and reap the benefits of various cryptocurrencies. To use STEEM you don't even need to invest a penny or go through an exchange. You are just given a tiny bit of STEEM and you can earn crypto while posting. But the flip side of this is that you cannot exclude anyone without going through a fairly complicated and divisive process. Even when community had millions of dollars to gain, the forking of Ethereum was very divisive. Just imagine how things would be like if STEEM decide to hard fork away from a certain account holder. Now think that account was an official account of a government or a government agency. Imagine Chinese Communist Party having a STEEM account that flag all posts that are against China or Socialism. Imagine CPS had an account that was made to counter all the hard work of @familyprotection or NSA/FED flagging posts on privacy and off-shore asset protection strategies and other legal tax dodging.

How Will The Community Deal With It?


We are considering a malicious or semi-malicious entity with almost bottomless funding acting like unholy pricks on a social media blockchain. If top witnesses accept to remove a certain account how would the community react? How much time will it take? The decision has to be swift because the malicious entity could simply power down in 13 weeks. I haven't seen much of a discussion on this topic. We have to understand that the "Tailored Access Operations" are a real thing and we have to acknowledge that bankrupt governments won't be very happy about an Alexa Top 1000 website spreading information that they would find unpleasant.

Some Known Targets and Collaborations of TAO According o Wikipedia

  • China
  • Tor/Firefox users
  • In concert with the U.S. CIA and FBI, TAO is used to intercept laptops purchased online, divert them to secret warehouses where spyware and hardware is installed, and send them on to customers.
  • OPEC
  • SEA-ME-WE 4 – an optical fibre submarine communications cable system that carries telecommunications between -
    Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, -
    Egypt, Italy, Tunisia, Algeria and France.
  • Mexico's Secretariat of Public Security
  • TAO's QUANTUM INSERT technology was passed to UK services, particularly to GCHQ's MyNOC, which used it to target -
    Belgacom and GPRS roaming exchange (GRX) providers like the Comfone, Syniverse, and Starhome. Belgacom, which provides services to the European Commission, the European Parliament and the European Council discovered the attack.
  • Försvarets radioanstalt (FRA) in Sweden gives access to fiberoptic links for QUANTUM cooperation.

According to a 2013 article in Foreign Policy, "TAO has become increasingly accomplished at its mission, thanks in part to the high-level cooperation it secretly receives from the 'big three' American telecom companies (AT&T, Verizon and Sprint), most of the large US-based Internet service providers, and many of the top computer security software manufacturers and consulting companies." A 2012 TAO budget document claims that these companies, on TAO's behest, "insert vulnerabilities into commercial encryption systems, IT systems, networks and endpoint communications devices used by targets". A number of US companies, including Cisco and Dell, have subsequently made public statements denying that they insert such back doors into their products. Microsoft provides advance warning to the NSA of vulnerabilities it knows about, before fixes or information about these vulnerabilities is available to the public; this enables TAO to execute so-called zero-day attacks. A Microsoft official who declined to be identified in the press confirmed that this is indeed the case, but said that Microsoft can't be held responsible for how the NSA uses this advance information.

None of these things are conspiracy theories. Aside from the fact that people are sticking their heads in the sand, these information are pretty much mainstream. STEEM has the imutability as it is a blockchain. But it still is a social media and although the content is there, it can be almost impossible to discover for newcomers. @informationwar and @familyprotection could easily be 2 of the most targeted accounts/tags by a malicious entity simply for the reason how good of job they are already carrying out.

One Of The Most Important Things About STEEM


SP is like hashpower and those with the most hashpower controls most of the network. This is a high risk high reward situation. You could even frame it as good guys with guns vs bad guys with guns. Those who with the most power and take action wins. The entire stake based voting system counts on the stake holders to make good decisions. But since we are a social network, not all decisions are objective and on a technical level, the code permits anybody to use the stake as they please.

So the only real way to make the truth prosper on the blockchain is for the stake holders to vote on and support truth and progress. Think of SP as nuclear energy. On good hands they will do great and on the hands of governments or other nutjobs with deep pockets, truth would be made obscure on STEEM.

Make Strong Networks Before The Malicious Groups Get In


Most of the STEEM is locked as SP to begin with. Most of that is held by steemit @ned and other accounts that belong to the developers. If things get really bad, Steemit, Inc can step in. But that would be an extreme measure. The best thing to do is to make things look like an unwinnable war. If anybody who wants to censor us thinks it wouldn't work out well, then we have won without even going o war. To do that we need to support valuable content. Even more importantly we need to stand up against abusers. @grumpycat and @madpuppy tried to force arbitrary rules down the throats of STEEM users and acted in hostile and unfriendly manner. The accounts used to have over 500,000 SP within them and now they have powered down 98%

This shows that we can actually win. Sure, @grumpycat and @madpuppy weren't as bad as Chinese Government starting a censorship campaign on STEEM. But these two accounts at the very least gave up their original plans. You could say they were sort of unintended guinea pigs that gave us a taste of possibly much worse things to come.

Stay Vigilant And Use Your SP Wisely To Support Good Projects


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The IW is not for sale!

And you will be happy to know that if they started doing stuff like that to the IW posts/members that we can make a new group over on memo.cash - Decentralized on-chain social network built on Bitcoin Cash! It is pretty cheap to use and uncensorable as well in the same regard as when you post to the blockchain it is there :)

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Great post @vimukthi

I would have just liked people to get more involved on this platform. One of my good friends @positivesynergy got flagged for plagiarism which was actually his own work on a different website and in the process he also got voted down by some big players (I think it was ned himself). He tried his utmost best to resolve the problem and people just did not seem to care much. Yes he manage to resolve being flagged for his own work but his account was ruined and he lost all motivation to post on this platform (he since moved on the Minds.com).

I am glad about @grumpycat and @madpuppy. The f@#$rs also downvoted me but @positivesynergy is a small account who really did good work who we have lost due to peoples unwillingness to help. He really went far in an attest to resolve his problem.

On the people trying to censor us, I do think this platform is ideal. At least we know the people here care much more about knowing the truth and despise censorship.

Hi @dpl & @vimukthi. I'm still sort of here, being held by the looong powering down process, floating around in the comments background. To answer your question of:

What Would You Do If Governments Get Into STEEM?

The simple question is leave. The more complex answer is all sorts of bad (agenda pushing/knocking) actors seem to be here already who seem to have pulled the wool over the eyes of the ones running these social media sites (probably with money). At least I can say that it seems that way in my experience with Steemit, Minds and Yours.

I am considering doing one or more posts here on, among other things, the new EU Censorship/Copywrite Taxation law they passed the first stage of last week.

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But one great thing is that at least we can have a fight on decentralized media. Nobody can shut things down. The best anybody could do is to make content less visible or go on a spamming rampage (which you can respond to by using the "mute" button)

I'm not even sure there really is much decentralized media yet. Even Ned said on video recently something along the lines that it is decentralized steem run by centralized steemit Inc. management. He should know controlling 51%. Plus, looking at https://status.steemnodes.com/ does 30 or so nodes constitute a securely unhackable distributed system? Minds is the same in management and I honestly don't even see much evidence if they are even running yet on the blockchain at all.

Plus, as much as I hate to say it, it sure looks like they already are shutting us and the entire crypto market down. Just looking at the numbers, Steemit stats seem to be falling steadily the last 6 months, which may be a big part of the massive sell off of somewhere close to 80% from the highs in early January. I see in the latest chart issued Tuesday that Active Users per month hit a peak in Jan. and have been steadily falling ever since.

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That seems to be the general state of all things crypto as it continues to drift lifelessly lower and lower, which eats so many of us up inside to see. My guess is they did it by moving assets into the market last year, especially with the onset of the (CME & CBOE) options trading of Bitcoin, in order to create euphoria and then do a massive slow dump of the market to create the illusion of popping the bubble to take out all the excitement. All the while they buy time as they themselves are developing their own version of a centralized cryptocurrency, which they have actually publicly stated several times in the last 6 months of specific central banks. Seeing Ethereum close to where it was a year ago and steem well under water from a year ago is eating me up.

I'm not sure I follow you on what "mute" button there is, but that massive censorship law they are pushing through to pass will require Steemit to install censor bots that will filter all content uploaded and tax anything the bots believe to be copyrighted material. It may in and of itself force steemit to shut down, because of all the massive amounts of copyrighted material already on it, given it's innate inability to be edited out. The whole line of attack in this new law seems focused directly on massive centralized censorship control of all online information. And people don't even realize just how far reaching the EU really is. Did you know, for example, that the EU reaches into South American via French Guiana (a French territory)? The EU has legal tentacles all around the world to various degrees.

So I am extremely concerned of all this. It all ties directly to the New World Currency article I last posted a few months ago, which I've also considered doing a second part of. It's just all such a heavy weight of negative/pragmatic reality that I wonder what's the use. If you can, please go more in depth to all the positive aspects you can think of. I'm running on empty of positivity today...

I'll start with something very simple. How are torrents doing? How much do those people get paid to sustain those P2P sharing?

If governments couldn't take down torrents, they are certainly not going to take down STEEM or other major cryptos. They can attack and suppress. But STEEM won't be taken down.

STEEM stats are falling because the prices are falling and people are being a little less excited and active. The current state of the crypto market is a minor problem. The current marketcap is going to look like a blip in the future.

Are the prices getting suppressed? Hell Yes. Was the housing market was artificially inflated? Yes again. In fact all bubbles were just some people trying to artificially inflate and in the cryptos it is an artificial deflation. Fundamentals always catch up and all those manipulations end up getting blown up in their faces.

Things are going to get really ugly. But I'm considerably positive about the future. Governments and other powers are not sustainable structures. It's going to go Atlas Shrugged + The Camp of The Saints

Lots of people will suffer. Many first world countries would cease to becme who they once were. But seriously, what do you think about Rome 2000 years ago and Rom 2018. Now Think the world 2000 years ago and 2018. Things have gotten better. But Greece and Rome are not doing that well. In the future USSA, EU are going to be fallen empires.

There's no doubt it's going to get ugly and certainly I agree we are in the midst of the fall of Rome 2.0 if you will already. In fact it's already getting fairly ugly, which I'm really feeling from many sides now, and it seems to just be starting. I'm not sure what "Atlas Shrugged + The Camp of The Saints" is, but it sounds like something in gaming and doesn't sound too good. I also agree with you, though, that overall it is positive in the long run.

As far as torrents, I know there are thousands out there supporting the infrastructure, if not even more than that, depending on the specific item. So that to me is a tough sell to compare to steem, given only 30 or so nodes are running last I checked and it seems to be a lot of consolidation between them too, at least from what I can gather. So I do know 100% that it is vulnerable, if they truly decided to take it out. Although, I think the strategy may be more a takeover type, though, much like Bitcoin et al.

Don't get me wrong, though. As many issues I do see with steem from the top down (and I mean there are a lot), I truly do hope a truly decentralized social media site does eventually emerge, but in my view the only way to do it and truly succeed is to start off with a non profit foundation and massive decentralization similar to bitcoin before the conglomerate mining powers who have consolidated so much of the power the last year or so or torrents (i.e. anyone with a pc can do it). As Jed McCabe, who created Ripple and Stellar has put it more or less, imagine how the internet would be today, if it was started by one for profit company. We'd never have what we have today.

Of course, you know I am biased, based on my own experience with the bully whale economy of steemit. But still being as objective as I can, having one guy control 51% of a half billion dollar company (or maybe a quarter billion now), that you can only get rewarded for the first 7 days and can never edit it after that and all sorts of flaws in the algorithm that doesn't really help quality content rise to the top as envisioned and thus bots have to be used to compensate, which creates a total dog-eat-dog mess, all discourage most serious true publishers from the platform. Then add to that the fact that it takes 3-9 months to get all but 5 Steem you ever invest in SP out of, and you can have what I'm experiencing - a nightmare where I've lost 40-50% in and still have to wait nearly 3 months more; and at some point I will have to restart the power down to pick up what was added in SP in the mean time. Excuse my language, but thinking of that and my situation makes me say it's a total cluster-fuck scam. LOL

@positivesynergy situation was terrible. I went through most of the conversations he had. @steemcleaners is as flawed as STEEM itself. It aims to do got but there are many things they screw up too. They better improve their act or else STEEM would loose to future competitors just like how BTC would eventually get beaten by alt-coin projects.

All cryptos have this problem/vulnerability at this point, consider that it only takes a few million worth sold off to start a bitcoin selloff. A wealthy individual could do it, it would be easy for a government or institution. There are guys who could buy all the bitcoin if they wanted. If the government did start buying up STEEM I would rejoice because it would be a huge payday when the prices spiked.

I've had this conversation with several people when I first came here. Like they really think they are untouchable. It's really quite amazing how many people think the government(s) would sit back and let a whole new monetary system take over the world and tell them all to go to hell. There's the real reality of the world and then there's imaginary reality hidden under a lot of tin foil hats on this site. It's a subject where it's a total waste of time to disgust because it's never going to happen, not unless there's plenty of room near Qaddafi grave site they'd all like to make prior reservations at.

@sunlit7

Agreed, I have written several posts on this #warofthecurrencies. Hope, is what people cling to but reality is something completely different.

That was a excellent way to state it.

right now cryptocurrency is basically nothing. 100 billion dollars is nothing.

I agree with you @funbobby51 but the people running the financial system won't let go of the grip they have on the system and to think that we can move them an inch in this market is naive. Believe me I want it to succeed (very very badly) but that is the hope inside me wishing we can break free from this corrupt rigged system.

One thing reign supreme in this world. It is not money or personal goods or even health. It is the human mind. He who controls the mind controls the world. Everything you see today (except for the odd truth that slips through) is fabricated to keep the system running smoothly.

Like the new video I have shared of Truthstream media -

There is no reason the world should not rush to crypto to cut out the f#*$#ng middleman (the banks) but it is easily controlled through a slide of hand (fud in the media and market manipulation). People are scared because they trust the very same people that lie to them on a daily basis.

I have attempted to explain this in my latest post but will do some more work on it.

Yo'd find Nightcrawler (2014) and UnReal Tv series fit right into the kind of things you are talking about. Ghost in the Shell franchise is even better. But it is dense and handle many topics and conspiracies are just a portion of it. (just don't watch the GitS Hollywood garbage which I refuse to even call an adaptation)

its like Beanie Babies or Pogs, governments and institutions don't really care to manipulate it because it is not big enough. Someday it may be. Or it may be like Beanie Babies or Pogs. If you didn't want to use a bank you could use cash.

That is why I attempted a few months back to write about it and make people aware. The more we write about it the more people would become aware and we can actually start getting the message out there but it is as if people think this stuff would just happen by itself. Whilst there is a brilliant idea out there to rid ourselves from these damn leaches the masses only see what these same leaches show them.

Banks and these institutions has spent millions upon millions not just buying up crypto to enable them to manipulate it but also on FUD to scare people out of the market. From anything to new tax laws, drags and child pornography linked to the blockchain they have thrown everything they had at it.

Behind the science there has been a war of epic proportions, hired hackers to hack wallets and exchanges with the main purpose of deterring new investment. The market has not been for the faint of heart.

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It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The thing is governments buying or selling BTC only affect the price. But STEEM has a social media layer built on top of it and just imagine if a government whale account suddenly spammed all the comments on this post and downvoted everyone into oblivion just because it doesn't like the stuff we are talking about. That's worse than just a crash in prices.

Well said, @vimukthi. You know much of what I shared of my story, but I'm not sure I shared much of what sparked the whole thing on me. It was the night after I posted my article on TO REGULATE OR NOT TO REGULATE? That is the question... that the Cheetah bot and @Steemcleaners first honed in for the kill on my account. I believe it was my argument to NOT regulate that, based on the success the 1998 Internet Tax Freedom Act, which set the wheels in motion. It is interesting to note that just last week the Supreme Court overturned that law and along with the Net Neutrality laws in the states, along with the EU's new Articles 11 & 13, as well as many other national laws around the world, such as Vietnam, is now setting into motion a NWO course to destroy so much of what we call a free and open internet.

agreed but to make the government whale account they would probably have to buy a bunch of STEEM, which would make the price go up. Did you ever see the south park NSA episode?

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@informationwar and @familyprotection could easily be 2 of the most targeted accounts/tags by a malicious entity simply for the reason how good of job they are already carrying out

Take care of your life and the Lord will take care of your death. George Whitefield

the truth is that we all contribute to this social network precisely because of the idea of ​​externalizing material that can not be communicated by the usual means by censorship

If family protection and information wars got censored then it just a good case of karma in my opinion. I made a comment the women who runs FP didn't like and she said she would ban me if she could but she'd flag me instead, then went and got a buddy over at IW to write a story about plagiarist with my name leading the top of the list with a comment they'd turn me into steemcleaners to have my account removed. The next thing I know steemcleaners is on me, I go there and prove that I had the authors permission to post her stuff, I even send her the SBD earned every month, IW was all good with that when I told them that when they questioned it but all of a sudden after the rift with his friend it wasn't. I spent two days defending myself. Ironic that IW is all about information getting out there that is censored then they turn around and try exactly that to me. So think twice before saying they do good work, what they do is portray one side of a story and if anybody goes against it they are against them. They are the embodiment of censorship here on Steemit.

Hi @sunlit7

It really is unfortunate to hear this about those two channels. I always wish that people could find a middle ground is such situations. It is frustrating to hear this about people that want to try and make a difference. We are not supposed to be against each other because we sit in the same boat. Fighting amongst one another is exactly what the system was designed to do.

My motto has always been to agree to disagree and come back tomorrow and see if you find common ground. I've been blogging for quite a while and I've come across people on totally opposite spectrum of something then myself. Over the course of time we've come together on many of topics and that can only occur with open dialogue. Censoring and shutting down people constantly is no way to run a forum.

I agreed with you @sunlit7

It sounds like someone as an ego problem and that does so much breakdown to a good cause. People are funny things. I wonder how that person think that running a channel like that and handling the situation the way you explained can be seen in line with their cause. It is two extremes on the spectrum.

You must however take note of a lot of trolls one has to fend off when doing what they do. You do not sound like one to me at all. I am just trying to think why that person would have handled the situation the way he did.

That is another huge contentious issue. Falling to the "your are a troll" if you disagree with them. I just flat out told them if I was a troll I'd be reading everything you put out and trolling it. I click on things that draw my attention, I go research a lot of stuff before I even comment. There was one thing that seemed so far fetched I couldn't believe it was true but researching it it was true. Then I had the opposite effect, a couple people coming out calling it all a political shot to bring someone down, but there was evidence clearly presented in several articles and shown in past history before this person ran for office that this stuff was well established....sometimes you just can't win. Everyone who blogs is at some point or another is a troll, especially if you go on a article where the main discussion came down already and you basically "troll" the comments to see what was said. That's trolling, but it's a good form of trolling not someone trolling to make trouble. I am a news junkie so politics I am more likely to click on, I clicked on a couple post about Indians, that interest me because my sons are part Indian therefore there's a lot of Indian relation, I researched the stuff before commenting on one article they did and another came from research and personal experience but because it didn't fall within the hate CPS agenda and was based on facts I was the bad guy. She may have not of liked what I said but after awhile someone has to say hey enough it enough, be honest, don't pacify for the sake of hating...reach for the truth.

It is frustrating, I know how you feel. I wish it was easy finding resolve and I also agree that you cannot just keep quiet if you know something is not true. People must be mature enough to accept a mistake and move on.

Attacking readers who actually support you is not the way to go.

I am the founder of @familyprotection along with @markwhittam.
sunlit7 is a huge trouble maker for MANY people on Steemit which you will see if you go through her own comments/replies or read this post below.

https://steemit.com/familyprotection/@snowpea/they-nailed-us

Well that sucks to hear. It's just individuals being faulty. Even Martin Luther King Jr. had some terrible aspects in his life. Hopefully things would get better on an individual level and fix themselves up because those accounts are still doing more good than harm. Will they be perfect? I'm not sure about that. But they can certainly learn to get better.

Please ignore sunlit7. She is talking about me.
She likes to go around insulting people and doesn't understand how things work on Steemit.
She has thrown around all kinds of insults about me and familyprotection, and then complains of censorship when we ask her to stop leaving rude and unwanted comments.

I went ahead and read about an hour's worth comments. I was pretty surprised that @sunlit7 even managed to get flagged by @bigdude who has been one of the nicest people on steemit (which seemed like the first flag he has given) I'm not a fan of flagging unless it is spam or serious hate speech. But I won't blame you on this one. I can understand where you are coming from :-)

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