My response to InformationWar being called Fake News by @sargento in our discord.steemCreated with Sketch.

in #informationwar6 years ago

@sargento(someone with the username Sargento#0001) recently came into our discord chat and asked some questions/called Information Warriors fakenews, but then he left our server before anyone could answer/respond to him. So here are your answers since you asked.

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From Sargento:

"Fake news. Sorry, but it is.
How about being actual news, without an agenda.
What, you guys are Morning Joe super right? I can get the same garbage on FOX.
Do not beat up on The Presidency, yet do not be a clone of Info Wars. I can get that shit on their website when I need a laugh.
Guess you along with @aggroed want to send out all this alt-right spin. Bye bye."

Let's break it down line by line.

"Fake news. Sorry, but it is"

Calling us fake news without pointing to any specific examples, and why those examples are factually incorrect, and or providing counter evidence to an Information Warrior's post. Just dropping in and calling someone Fake News isn't an argument or reasonable.

"How about being actual news, without an agenda"

We openly admit to our bias as seen in our About Us/Our Mission post, as well as the posts we make that are titled"Bias in this account" for each curator. We are transparent and open, ask us anything.

It is also a mistake to think that there is a such thing as "actual news without an agenda".

Our Agenda:

The subjects/topics we write most about are the following: Truth/Freedom/Facts/Data/Analysis/Liberty/Censorship/Decentralization/Cryptocurrency/Building a Better World That Is More Self Reliant/Debunking MSM/Holding Govt Accountable/Precious Metals/Smaller Govt.

Our group is dedicated to pushing back back against misleading MSM narratives and clickbait journalism. The only reason they have such a monopoly on the information coming out is because of their 1st mover advantage in being the 1st people in the market and having the most amount of money to have large media corporations/tech/broadcasting/etc. It truly was impossible to get any other message out, but with advances in technology this is no longer the case. We are able to build up a movement and get our message out for just the cost of internet/smartphone/computer and our time, now is the best time for truth seekers to get out the message. The ultimate purpose of the founding of InformationWar is to give you tools to defend your liberty, and has evolved into much more than that.

About Decentralized Truth and Information War: https://steemit.com/informationwar/@informationwar/about-the-decentralized-truth-movement-and-informationwar


Our Bias:

@truthforce:
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@informationwar/bias-in-this-account-curator-truthforce

@wakeupnd:
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@informationwar/bias-in-this-account-curator-wakeupnd

@Stevescoins:
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@informationwar/bias-in-this-account-first-curator-stevescoins

@openparadigm:
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@informationwar/bias-in-this-account-second-curator-openparadigm

@commonlaw:
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@iw-curator/iw-curator-bias-and-prejudice-post-by-commonlaw

@metalmag25:
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@iw-curator/curador-para-etiqueta-informationwar-metalmag25-sesgo-en-esta-cuenta-curator-of-informationwar-metalmag25-bias-in-this-account

"What, you guys are Morning Joe super right? I can get the same garbage on FOX"

We are not a monolith by any means, nor are most of us "super right". I am pretty certain most of us don't like Fox news either. You can read through the above links for "our bias" to see what we are.

"Do not beat up on The Presidency, yet do not be a clone of Info Wars. I can get that shit on their website when I need a laugh."

No one is stopping anyone from "beating up on The Presidency", and there is no such rule that says that anywhere for what we curate. We also are not Info Wars.

"Guess you along with @aggroed want to send out all this alt-right spin. Bye bye."

I would say a super majority of us like what @aggroed does(including myself). No idea what you are even hinting at here.

"Alt-right spin" What does that even mean? We aren't a monolith. We get posts from all walks of life in the #informationwar tag from the alt-left, alt-right, centrists, leftists, rightists, repubs, dems, liberals, libertarians, ancaps, ancoms, anarchists, etc...

The whole point of what we are doing is that ideas need to be put out into the open, debated, fact checked, not censored, and talked about. Ideas that win by merit are the ideas that should go forward.

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Boom! You tell it @truthforce and @informationwar.

Imo so what if you were far left or any “negative” category people choose to interpret who one is? We all have a right to be who we are without being judged.

and I hope you like this answer @sgt-dan to all your questions.

Honestly that guy is always really drunk. Not being mean it's just the truth. It has been a long time since I bumped into him, but when he was around in the same circles... He was always smashed and always running his mouth.

Anyway, not everything people do here will appeal to everyone.

Enjoy your project!

Thanks for stopping by, glad you like what we are doing!

That has been my experience with him as well. It's a shame, because I do like the guy, but he seems to like spending his time criticizing people instead of doing any amount of self-reflection or addressing the ideas being discussed, which tells me all I need to know about how seriously he needs to be taken.

Very nice response. There will always be angry fly by attacks to any one or any group that wants to voice and show a different side of life and has a different interpretation or method of presenting an opinion or facts that are uncomfortable to some.

Yes, and it gets a bit irritating when it happens. Fly by attacks are one of the more annoying ways of trolling someone in my opinion. Though I do like trolling in general.

Sounds like an ardent Killary supporter lol full of opinions but not evidence. I love the IW tag, it doesn’t represent one viewpoint, it covers the vast spectrum of what we all consider the war on information. Keep it up!

Yes. And I would expect most of the people participating in the Information War are Libertarians/Anarchists/Centrists/Conservatives.

Excellent piece, @truthforce. We are fortunate that there is just one cowardly troll who took the time to write out such a fantastically bland message. Expect to see more of that. They have scripts, and paid bots to stomp on the truth. Hard to quite nail it down for them, though, since like you said:

"We aren't a monolith. We get posts from all walks of life in the #informationwar tag from the alt-left, alt-right, centrists, leftists, rightists, repubs, dems, liberals, libertarians, ancaps, ancoms, anarchists, etc..."

If anything, that reply will incentivize us to do even more to fight the fake news, globalists and morally bankrupt politicians set on keeping us surfs in line.

You forgot one highly significant factor, @truthforce, regarding the content published in the #informationwar: Most of us do this work for free. Heck, our accounts have been losing money for the last few months. It actually costs most of us money to publish our content.

It doesn't get any more virtuous than that.

That is very true. By not cashing out our stake in the blockchain we are losing money as prices go down, unrealized gains.

I use the informationwar tag for many of my posts, and my blog is non partisan. I point out repeatedly that both sides serve the same masters in the end, which is why we keep sliding down into this shit show. I have found many I upvote use this tag, and also found I don't agree with many who use it as well. People run the spectrum in beliefs who participate. I would suggest that sometimes it might seem like the left is targeted more, but thats because the script they currently run calls for them to drive rational people to the other side (rational people who need to pick one of the two sides).

Guessing the person who said this in Discord probably trembles in rage that others won't be progressive and fall in step with the approved babble nonsense the fascists on the left are violently insisting on.

I agree with your comment. The left is targeted more due to their scripts that are dominating the social fabric of many nations.

Shame you didn't include my response to this dunce :smirk:

"super right" ???!!

Chump is a democrat.
He is far left of what i remember the republican party.
So, if i had just stayed where i was, i am indeed, super right.

Fortunately, i do not believe in the left/right paradigm anymore.


And the news... not biased... not alex jones...

When talking about 9-11, there is only wild speculation.
We know the buildings were not brought down by fires caused airplanes.
We know that many financial shenanigans happened.
We know that many people are lying.

All that is left is massive speculation about how and why.

The same can be said about the Kalifornia "wild" fires.

We know they ain't right.
But, until someone comes out with a device and causes, repeatedly, the same burning to ash of houses, and melting of cars, while not touching trees, all we have is massive speculation.

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