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RE: 🆕 Artificially "Intelligent" Newcomers

in WORLD OF XPILAR2 months ago

but it would be good if accounts could carry some sort of badge to show who introduced them and who vouches for them....

[@the-gorilla could your new steemit.com interface carry badges?]

I don't know how easy this would be to implement - there'd need to be a change to the Database layer and I've not gone near that yet (I'm hoping that I don't have to... at least for the most part).

This is possible in a roundabout way by looking at their achievement 1 and who introduced them. Then by following the introduction chain, you can quickly get a good idea what "category" they fall into (e.g. contest monkeys).

That is bad for newcomers - but they would need to build up their support base by engaging with the wider community. The wider community en masse would then do the filtering of who is fake and who isn't.

This is no bad thing. We've reached a point where "New Steem" gravitate towards contests and nothing else which to "Old Steem" is boring (I'm categorising myself as Old Steem mentality in New Steem). I echo the sentiments of @chriddi in her reply and I'm desperately hoping that a fresh look to the interface will encourage a fresh look at behaviour.

AI Steem is going to be with us very fast. We as a community will have to work out how to deal with this new reality of AI Steem.

It's already here in my opinion. As @remlaps has said, AI is no bad thing, it's the deceptive use of AI that we might never find a solution to.

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which to "Old Steem" is boring

That is a key statement!
And being made fun of while you're bored is frustrating, then disgusting and then you ask yourself who is actually stupid enough to think about a successful developing that makes you happy again. The answer is: "Me, myself." And this question, with its shocking answer, has simply been in the air for far too long.

It is true that contests are not bad, I like them too. But there is something that happens when everything focuses on that... and it seems to become something obligatory, the joy is lost.
I think it is necessary to expand the ways of participating in Steemit, the development of the blog itself for example, beyond the communities.

Someone told me after 18 seasons even the devil gets boring lol :D

What I would like to say, in the meantime, is that at least in my case, I try not to lose my joy, if something doesn't attract me I don't participate in it, I look for something to write that I like, sometimes even a contest that is not part of the challenge, or my own writings. Sometimes I participate in conversations that interest me like this one...

But dear, joy, we must not lose joy... And it can be found anywhere...

I have told many who have left the same thing: you lost your joy when you began to take everything very seriously. Create your beautiful space... We can all do it, we have a blog there, and some friends, even if they are not too many, the important thing is that they are real.🙂

I never said that contests are bad. They are just boring as a mass product. I would even take part in a real challenge (real in the sense of "Do you dare?") (if it triggers me). Something like that could perhaps be offered once or twice a month... More often is old hat again - in my opinion.

I think participating in conversations is the core of "social media", better Steemit. Unfortunately, the run on the coin (and this with all its might, all its (fraudulent) tricks) has pushed the core into the background, because most users only care about their own contributions (or "forced" to make as many SEC comments as possible). Maybe a bot should block the quantity of posts. Three posts per week per user. Then it can think for four days and/or take care of the posts of other users.

some friends [...] the important thing is that they are real.

Word!!! 🤗

I never said that contests are bad.

Yes I know...

They are just boring as a mass product.

I agree. Everything that is massive loses its personality, the peculiarity that is ultimately what is interesting.

because most users only care about their own contributions (or "forced" to make as many SEC comments as possible).

It is true and it is regrettable. I have already commented before that making hundreds of comments is something that would not be possible if one really focuses on reading a post. Attention can't handle so much... I think everyone who comments normally knows this. It's just crazy.

Maybe a bot should block the quantity of posts. Three posts per week per user. Then it can think for four days and/or take care of the posts of other users.

I know you may say this jokingly, but you can't design a bot for everything hahaha. That's what should happen if people post normally. Making one post a day at most would be normal. I have seen people who make 4 posts a day and feel proud of that, but then I think: surely they don't even reread those posts themselves... they don't have time.

In conclusion, all mass production causes the essential, the interesting, to be lost... just as the products of an artisan differ from those of a factory, those of the factory have no personality...

I have read you a lot and after a while I understand more and more what you mean regarding what happens with challenges and in general... if you are observant you can notice. 🙂

I know you may say this jokingly, but you can't design a bot for everything hahaha.

Well, there's a grain of truth in every joke...
Yes, I'm a bit serious: for me, "bot" stands for "automatism". An automatic ban after three posts a week would be very easy to implement. Four for all I care... ;-)

what you mean regarding what happens with challenges and in general...

Thank you... :-))
I've lost count of the months since I started preaching this.
The "problem" with the solution is the only possible solution that someone can achieve themselves (why would the Steemit team hire a running thing where they are sure of the CR (the only visible income...)?): NOT participating in the "challenges".

But anyway, we're getting off the subject.
I just wanted to make it clear that we understand each other - despite all the language barriers... ;-)
Definitely no AI accounts... ;-)

 2 months ago (edited)

We've reached a point where "New Steem" gravitate towards contests and nothing else which to "Old Steem" is boring

contests itself are not bad. personally, I am here for contests and rivalry (in the photo field). but the shit is, that folks loose the interest - massively. The activity and number of participants is decreasing dramatically, not to mention the quality of the stuff. I see that this is a consequence of low rewards. I'd avoid fingering, but some content-creators receive 20-30-40 upvotes on a regular basis, while the rest are left with an honestly earned donut's hole.

AI is no bad thing, it's the deceptive use of AI that we might never find a solution to.

Agree.

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