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RE: 🆕 Artificially "Intelligent" Newcomers
Please don't give 'em scammers and ID-thefts new ideas :)
It's quite good we could still distinguish the ai generated "selfies" among the real ones, but what would happen in an year (or by training the model with adding the phrase "add wrinkles and skin defects", etc.)
Generally if there is a "system-wide" KYC requirement, it should be applied to all active accounts and we all know that's not going to happen anyway.
IMHO - people shouldn't be asked to provide such public proof that stays online forever.
Some of that is already possible although The models I’ve tested so far are terrible at adding skin defects. Even simple prompts like “has spots” doesn’t yield accurate results - presumably because the training data uses beautiful people. It is possible to train a model on a specific person which I’ve not had time to do yet. I’ve found a better model though for producing more realistic skin tones.
The scammers are already using these tools and others that I’ve not talked about yet - it’s the ability to plagiarise with absolutely zero chance of finding the original source. The obvious benefit is the quick production of relevant, engaging and high quality content in a matter of minutes rather than hours. What this doesn’t give them though is the meaningful engagement that happens through comments. Then of course, comments can be generated by AI too as has been suggested elsewhere.
The more I’ve played with it myself, the more amazed I am by what’s possible already.
I’ve mentioned this in other comments that most of the people I interact with have never been verified. We don’t know what most of our witnesses look like and we’ve never wanted to.
What this will mean for the future of sites like Steemit is an interesting consideration too. As we’ve seen recently, the AI generated authors are producing (arguably) superior content to a large number of authors. If AI is used to generate a daily diary game based upon a real person’s life, does that improve Steemit or degrade it?
My brain is struggling with this trail of thought… why stop AI content when it’s superior to much of the human generated content on Steemi?
I participate in Adobe Photoshop Beta and here is what I made in under two minutes:
Just opened one of those "newcomer selfies" from the original post, used the Lasso tool to select the head and typed "add wrinkles and make it more realistic" as a prompt. When zoomed, I find minor flaws in the eyes but the face and the skin... it's a normal person to the naked eye.
I'll provide two reasons, purely my point of view.
Just until few months ago, I was spending hours to write long travel stories, using my own travel photographs, and let me just notice the quality of my photos is paramount to me, I usually travel with 10-12 kg backpack with several lenses and various accessories. Suddenly, the number of such articles bursts and they get even longer and "with better quality".
The longer an article gets, the less people read it. I lost that battle and gave up on throwing away my time.
AI is lazy and AI creates facts, that aren't true. IMO, relying on AI is dangerous and I would never take a financial, medical or travel advice by it (those are areas I personally tried). AI does what the most of us do - it tries to look competent when answering and I'm sure it(its creators) are aware they hold no liability if anything goes wrong with the generated content.
Long story short, monetizing AI-generated content is cheating, as as a person I couldn't post more than twice a day such a "quality" post while meanwhile someone would generate 20 such posts, or even more.
A fisherman with 20 rods is more likely to catch more big fish ;)
Realistically, I don't see how such content could be limited, as there will always be workarounds, and my pessimistic forecast is there will be a big outflow of genuine content creators.
That’s super quick. I’ve spent hours testing various models, refining prompts and parameters to get as far as I did. I haven’t got a recent version of Photoshop but it certainly sounds like it’s too easy. Do you know what model it’s using in the background and any ControlNet’s etc?
I assume the you can do the same with backgrounds? I suspect the technology / process behind it is InPaint which I’ve not tried yet.
AI currently struggles with eyes and especially hands. It’s only a matter of time before it’s improved though.
AI prompting is a skill in itself at the moment but I agree with your reasons. It’s those exact reasons that I fear its impact on Social Media as a whole. It’s almost certain that it will redefine Steemit and almost certainly its user base. Do we need to adapt? Will our authenticity beyond the post itself mean that we’ll be fishing in prime waters whereas the herd is in the swamp? Will we still have fun? Could an AI future portray the thoughts that you’ve just shared, or those that I’m sharing now?
I’m sure that in an AI future, we can still enjoy our time on Steemit even if it’s overrun by AI (which the critic in me loosely compares to the current emphasis on engagement challenges). It’s just a question of how… but… the how will only be possible if the old skool do it together. If we continue to reduce in numbers, the fun will reduce too.
My thought are jumping around your comment - I don’t want to skip or “undermine” anything you’ve said!
Readership on Steemit’s generally a problem now. I don’t feel that the majority of the existing user base is here to read and would prefer to receive a vote than a comment. The money element isn’t there as a bonus, it’s there as the reason which when you joined, possibly wasn’t as obvious?
I don’t know how coherent my comment is. I broadly agree with everything you’ve said, especially the last paragraph which I’m hoping to adapt to.
It's fast but it would be tricky to train it to use this particular face, I don't know if its possible but it should actually not be hard with just feeding it the same "person" and asking for change of scenery, as you say, background is easy to modify. For instance, Photoshop had "sky replacement" tool long before any AI was released to the public.
With regard to the model used, all I could find is "Firefly Image 3 Model".
I tested Firefly when it was out, compared it to StableDiffusion and Midjourney, the results were quite different, sometimes better, sometimes not. I don't know what's behind but I doubt they had developed their own AI from scratch.
A friend send me this below :))) We laugh now, but let's wait a little...
AI Prompting is indeed a skill, and as I far as I understand, it is a paying job at some companies already. I guess it is ok, if I call such job positions "Skynet Servant" :D Could be a wake-up call to someone...
On a positive side, it's awesome Skynet still needs us, right?
The money side of posting/commenting here is quite important.
People on FB count likes, people on blockchains count the crypto. It is a measure of approvement of what we post. The rewards definitely affect what I post ;)
However, the content itself is a small part of the "game".
One may create the perfect content but without some flattery to the orcas and the whales, big votes would just be some mirage :))) Perhaps I should say "getting attention" instead.
Yup, such a true mirror of RL :)
In the long term I think something has to change and genuine contributors have to be rewarded properly or the only people left would be the few big investors and the myriad of desperate people from poor countries, happy to have those few extra cents every day (and those who try to cheat the game with generated/stolen content, pretending to be someone else)
Sorry, this got too long, I hope you read it, LOL :)
Have a great weekend!
The easiest route would probably be to use an online tool to remove the background entirely and then adding something from scratch. I suspect there'll be problems with lighting. Playing around with these tools could become all-consuming so I'm not too surprised that it's a job role in its own right.
I enjoyed that image - so true. I used a starting image of a man with a saw and slowly, the iterations converted the saw into a 3rd leg.
I've tried StableDiffusion and ComfyUI and the key tends to be the training model that's used. I've experimented with half a dozen (they're about 6GB each so not small) and the output can vary significantly. Even within the same model, a different seed with no other settings adjusted can produce a lot of variety. Which is where I found my time disappear to. I'd generate a batch of images, choose the one I thought was best and refine it. I've deleted most of the attempts now but it wouldn't even produce a consistent piece of paper from this tiny one...
...to something that spanned the entire screen.
I'm fairly sure that in Terminator 2, Skynet didn't need us.
Also, increasingly a mirror of real life. I watched a video about housing estates in England a few days ago and it was interesting how it talked about "A decreasing middle class". The Middle Class being essential in keeping the economy working properly. It's something that's obviously been happening for a long time - if the rich are continuing to get richer, then by definition, everybody else must be getting poorer.
I read it 🙂 But I put off replying to longer comments to make sure they get the response that your effort deserves 😇
I fully get that, the first visual generative AI I installed on my PC... I lost about two days playing with models and the output, I have not shared the output, anywhere, hehe :)
That three-legged fella is really something :) Here I should maybe ask (probably better to myself only) if he has two sets of manly junk :DDD
That would be pretty convenient to enjoy some quality time with two ladies (ooops, the more politically correct statement would be "partners") :D
I read some news that an AI driven robot repairs some machinery so perhaps the Skynet realm is closing in... Well, hopefully not.
Interesting thoughts about the middle class and I have been observing something similar here with it, constantly shrinking. Now there are generally two types of people around - those who "swim" in unnecessary luxury and think are untouchable/invincible/immortal and at the other end are people who spend all their income on food, medicine and utilities and barely hold it. True, that's a proof of bad country economy. Our own production becomes rare and more expensive, the big stores sell eggs from Poland, cheese and pork from Germany and Spain, vegetables from Greece, Italy and Turkey, etc.
I know, it's usually profit- and price-driven but that can't be good for the environment, right... That's another topic, though :)
If I hadn't used words like "nudity, pornography", etc. as Negative Prompts, you'd probably have your answer to a few of those questions. I think his face might need a bit of work though before he's got much chance of finding 1 partner, let alone more than that!
Plenty of politics to get into there too! Probably best to avoid that - easiest way to lose friends is to talk about politics 😉 Which EU country are you from? My country was in the EU once but we have a gullible population that chose to believe the headline on a bus. A headline, which unsurprisingly turned out to be a lie.
I see the answer to my question now in your label. I went on holiday to the Black Sea Coast once. Made my way to Varna for a day and was told by the taxi driver "I guarantee somebody will try to sell you drugs" and no sooner had I got out of the taxi, somebody asked me "do you want drugs?"
You're absolutely right about the politics. Actually it's a nice test to have arguments and different opinions than your friends, that's one method I distinguish true friends from those, just passing by... ;)
Last year I spent about two weeks in England and Scotland, UK has really changed a lot. About two decades ago, I was working for a UK company and was traveling a lot, also living in London for few months since 1999. I was born in Bulgaria. Brexit is quite an interesting phenomenon to me, everyone I know and I spoke to, was against it and still, it happened after all.
Well, I'd avoid Black Sea holidays at all costs during the summers :D
Golden Sands and Sunny Beach are two sea resorts famous for the cheap alcohol (and all the other stuff/vice accompanying it :)))
Springs and autumns... absolutely different story, traveled there tens of times and still not enough...
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people shouldn't be asked to provide such public proof
150% agree. personally, I am not up to sharing my ugly face, thats why I never tried to perform this 'Steemit user authentification' :/ too easy to hack, and still not 100% convincing - so where is the bargain?..
I watched a documentary few months ago how scammer opened bank accounts and withdrew bank loans via bank mobile apps with stollen selfies from facebook.
That's only one of the sides, of course.
And on a side note, I am sure your face isn't ugly :)))
To be absolutely honest, if I am asked to take such verification, I'll just go somewhere else :) unless it's a reputable third-party that keeps all that info private and only temporary (similarly to the KYC that the exchanges and banks do)