RE: OCD's stance on cross-posting and news about empowering niche communities
Fully agree with that:
I wish steem just allowed one to resteem into different communities. Hopefully this crpss-posting is a temporary measure. Also, I wish enablers like steempeak would have them created with rewards declined or set 100% to null.
You can also just copy and paste and post again. Cross-posting legitimizes double-dipping. It would be best to actually improve the post to get more rewards during the double-dip.
As much as I really like all the @Steempeak features and they are really doing a great job there, this one screams vote farming and spam.
What difference it makes if I go and copy my post from yesterday and post it again today in different community (besides that I will be reported and downvoted for it), or use @Steempeak to do it for me?
My suggestions would be to deny all the rewards (as mentioned above) on cross-posts and leave link to original post if someone likes it, they can vote on that.
Maybe limit the cross-post to few, or just one per week. That would make the cross-posting very selective.
Or if its possible to actually cross-post the original post to a new community without creating another post with the same content.
I see on my feed the same posts multiple times sometimes. All with upvotes....
Yup. This is bid-bots 2.0 - content recycling via cross-posting.
How do you think outsiders are going to view this? As a positive development? Or more BS like self-voting, vote trading and vote-buying/selling.
Hey, guess what? Steem didn't think that was enough so now they enable a feature to copy and paste another's post and get rewarded with a 5~10% cut depending if the person who does it owns the community or not...the best part, no consent required.
To the outsider that have never been or seen Steem before it might seem normal. That's how the place works, so be it.
But considering that for the past years copy-pasta was punished, recycling own posts and posting them again was punished as well, I just don't understand how cross-posting in current form is allowed. It allows you to use the same content and monetize it again. Even if I would not be allowed to cross-post mine, I can monetize someone else content for the second or third time. And even earn on it!
Imagine 10-15 people creating few communities, posting once a day and crossing all each other posts on daily basis. I know this might be easy to spot and downvoted, but just imagine :D
Steem or Steempeak? I though on Steempeak has the button. That's why posts do show normally there and on Steemit and Busy feed it looks like link spam.
Steempeak has it.
I just think they are making quite the statement by enabling it after so long. I am actually tempted to remove my support from their proposal, but I will give them a few weeks to see how it goes.
About your community thought, I could totally see a crosspost circle vote community starting up. They would be able to get away with less effort on their low effort posts. Hopefully tools are made to detect this so others can react.
hasn't been used that way as of yet and we believe for many reasons it will be avoided by smart farmers because it's too high profile and too easy to find them. They have too many other methods to hide their farming. But if you see cases bring them to the attention to people
What people will do first is post their full post to multiple communities... they'll do that way before using cross-posting.
How is that possible? As far as I know we are only allowed to use one community tag as the first tag.
That would actually solve the problem of publishing the same content (cross-posting) multiple times.
Just copy paste the whole post and post it again to a new community. Cross-posts are more visual than that other method.
You are suggesting to post the same content multiple times? :)
If I remember correctly up until now all the copy pasted posts (copies of older posts, or posted few times) were considered abuse and reported. Those accounts were then downvoted and put in blacklists for spam/reward abuse.
And yet we haven't seen vote farming abuse... people can see them all here #cross-post. We would be happy to see any statistical analysis.