Talking Point Tonight: Scams and Steemit - 25/9/2021, 8.30pm

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 3 years ago 

If someone says steemit is scam, I will tell the person him or her has nothing to lose. Steemit is free, so what will you be scammed with?

 3 years ago 

I warmly welcome you to this Talking Point. Here are our two questions:

Question 1: Have you ever been scamed? Share your experience with us
Question 2: If someone says Steemit is Scam, how will you respond?

Funny enough I usually show my alerts from steemit 😂.
Then take my time and explain what Steemit is all about.

 3 years ago 

Am sure this will convince anyone that Steemit is not Scam. Have you been able to convince a doubter to join? @judeet10

Yes

My younger sister

 3 years ago 

What is her username?

 3 years ago 

I don't show anyone my alert.
Bad people are everywhere.
If you don't want to believe all I've said, no be by force na

Lol

Different strokes for different folks right ?

 3 years ago (edited)

I have scammed so many times.And I have decided not to been scammed by any person again.First I was scammed in the year 2016 by one company called sinapis.I was convinced by one of my friends that I should invest #10,000, that I will be paying 10,000 for 6 months and if I introduced anyone that I will earn 10percent of their investment.
I invested #40'000 immediately and brought people that investment huge amounts of money.
After 3weeks they ran away with our money.Even that my friend that introduced me ran away till date I have not her again.

 3 years ago 

Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Even your best friend scammed you

 3 years ago 

Probably this year, the buissnes I heard that will last for ten years, collapsed under 2 years

 3 years ago 

So sorry about that @chichieze, that is how most of this promising businesses behave. Same happen to me

 3 years ago 

Hmmm, Steemit is my comfort zone @udyliciouz

My dear there is no lie in what you just said

 3 years ago 

Sure

 3 years ago 

Anyway God Dee for us, nothing do us,

We de kajard nothing mega

 3 years ago 

Hahahaha, nothing mega dear

 3 years ago 

Hello where are others

Good Evening

Have been scammed just once I think. Entered my card details in a fake site and in a blink of an eye I lost 55k just like that.

Reported to the bank but they couldn't do anything 😢

 3 years ago (edited)

Am really sorry about it. Waooh this must be serious. When did this happen and can you remember the name of the site. How did you feel at the time @judeet10

This happened last year. Can remember the name of the site.

Was very bitter when this happened, stopped using the account for a long time even after I blocked the card and got a new one.

 3 years ago 

Hahahaha. You really got angry with the account and bank. But am sure they were not the cause. Did you later use the account?

I know it wasn't there fault but just thought that there should be something they can do to find the culprit.

Started using the account early this year, got a new ATM card.

 3 years ago 

You finally forgave them. That is nice. So when you see those sites that ask you to put your card details, what do you do?

Actually the bank won't be able to retrieve it, just be careful on how you give out your card details.. Sorry dear

•1: Yes I have been scammed.

I was on Facebook one faithful day and saw a private message telling me that if am the first to wish a happy birthday to kanu Nwankwo, that there's a prize for me. So I hurriedly sent the happy birthday to the link that was dropped and that was how my journey of scam began.

They chatted me privately and even demanded my phone number, which I sent to them. At first it seemed real that was why I was falling for everything they say.

Along the line they listed a whole lot of prizes that I've won and asked for how I would love the items to get to me,, I told them they should waybill it naw. They now started giving me charges. From lagos to Abia state was 5k, so I hurriedly sent it to them with happiness that am gonna get gift of 50k. After some days,, I tried the number, and I was told it was not available.....

•2: Well, steemit is not a scam because if it is I don't think I will be preaching to you about steemit. I have joined steemit since 2020 and I have benefited a lot from it. So no scam attached to it.

Oh my God! you are quite lucky. A friend of mine sent 30,000 naira for something similar. It's all good sha.. Sorry ma. And i myself have come across stuff like that but i always choose to ignore.

 3 years ago 

Such a sad experience. This must be painful. When did this happen? How did you feel about the money then? Am grateful to God it was not more than 5k

 3 years ago 

Oh my God!, Sorry about that. It has happened to me as well

 3 years ago 

That's bad as they used a celebrity's name to scam you.
Thank God you didn't give more than what you had.
Truly,steemit is not a scam

 3 years ago 

This is funny, but thank God it was not more than that

 3 years ago 

It This is funny, but thank God it was not more than that

I had similar experiences though not through birthday wishing but I sent them Glo recharge card of 5k to waybill my price. The thing enter voice mail. From Lagos to Kano, to Zamfara, motor spoil etc until now

 3 years ago 

Along the line they listed a whole lot of prizes that I've won and asked for how I would love the items to get to me,, I told them they should waybill it naw. They now started giving me charges. From lagos to Abia state was 5k, so I hurriedly sent it to them with happiness that am gonna get gift of 50k. After some days,, I tried the number, and I was told it was not available.
My I almost fall a victim to this one. And I told him to use his money and send that once the gift arrived that I will pay him. Though my own was not wishing them happy birthday. But from Samsung phone users

 3 years ago 

Okay, please are we discussing here or on telegram chat

 3 years ago 

Welcome. We are discussing here. Lets know what you think about the two questions raised. @chichieze

 3 years ago 

I have been scammed many times

 3 years ago 

Sorry about that dear but God pass them

 3 years ago 

Lets hear the stories briefly. What really happened?

 3 years ago 

Thanks dear @benson6

 3 years ago 

Can please tell us what happened. Just tell us the most painful one @chichieze

 3 years ago 

I invested elort of the money, called e-commerce company. Infact when you see there marketing plan, you will believe that it's reall. Not only that, the have all the documents to prove that the are not money laundering company. After re-investing all I had, the platform collapsed. It was really a painful moment to me

 3 years ago 

Chai. This one looks like a common experience. Am really sorry. Can you remember the amount you lost - both profit and capital?

 3 years ago 

Yeah it was $:600. Over 3 hundred thousand in Nigeria currency

 3 years ago 

@chichieze I was also a victim of chy

 3 years ago 

Eyaah, sorry about that dear

 3 years ago 

So when someone said Steemit is a scamm, I will boldly tell him/her that is not with the following.

  • You are not investing anything so if Steemit platform is no longer there tomorrow what did you lose?

  • It's a block chain based platform.

As for the investors, I will ask them to make more research about Steem. Then I will direct them to one who is superior than me to explain more to him/ about Steem. And how reliable the platform is.

 3 years ago 

Am really sure your method has been productive. Yes they have nothing to loose at all. Have you been able to turn a doubter into a believer - to join Steemit?

 3 years ago 

Yeah I have @focusnow

 3 years ago 

My next door neighbor happened to be the doubting Thinks. But I kept sharing my testimonies with him. Being a Crypto person, he made research about Steem. Letter he signed up. His user name is @palvalintine

 3 years ago 

Myself chy, stake and fes.

 3 years ago 

Chai, sorry dear

 3 years ago 

Have been scammed through online platforms whereby I pay in money and I get blocked and other occasions I found myself in the name of you use money to chase money.

If someone says steemit is a scam am gonna smile and explain things they don't know about this platform and am gonna show some proofs through my steemit account or I tell them to visit our training Center to see by themselves that we aren't scammers.

 3 years ago 

So sad. Am sorry about that. Did any of them happen to you this year? 2021? How much did you loose?

 3 years ago 

Okay i lost 20k and it happend last year and i won,t have been a member of steemit because i thought it was a scam.

 3 years ago 

Sometimes people get scammed just because they are trying to invest.
But end up being scammed.
God no go shame us

 3 years ago 

Sure that is true. Before you leap, you must look. Sometimes, flashy offers are the beginning of scam. What do you think?

 3 years ago 

I used to show some people my steemit wallet and transactions just like you say and some say it won't last. So I hardly show them my transactions now. Except my close friends and relatives

 3 years ago 

Hahahaha. Some people are so skeptical. Is it?

 3 years ago 

Huh everyone get wahala for this country oo

 3 years ago 

No be small

Well i just joined and would not have any solid proof of earnings to show them. I will just play my part in trying to convince you while i make my earnings and when i show you how far i have gone later, you will only wish.

 3 years ago 

Yes I have been scammed before on Facebook

A friend of mine whose account was hacked so unknown to me the person asked me to send him #5000 that her mom is in the hospital and all the stories that followed so I sent the money thinking it was my friend Chizzy not knowing it was a hacked account so later that evening I called her on phone to ask if she received the money she told me about on Facebook, she was asking me which money ? It was later that she told me that her Facebook account was hacked my goodness!!!
I was shocked, she was even surprised when I asked her if she received the money I sent to her. I had to explain everything to her and she was also shocked, she really felt bad for me but what could I have done at that moment, I had to endure the agony and let go.i believed God will send much more for me
This incident happened last year December
14/12/2020

It was really a terrible experience

2nd question
If someone ask about steemit being scam I would show the person my account and account of numerous white men in the platform as well as the blacks just for clarification then I would sit the person down and educate him or her on basic things about the platform such as the fun that comes with meeting new personalities, writing abilities, money making, investment and so Much more
at least with these the person's mindset will be changed
Thank you @focusnow
@steemalive

 3 years ago 

That's a nice one dear, have you been able to apply it

 3 years ago 

Sorry about the lost dear

Hmm..my dear in this case it was my account that was hacked and my friends were receiving several messages thinking it was from me. I had to block it found out. Sorry for your loss though.

 3 years ago 

Wow! This is an interesting question.
First of all, thanks for this opportunity to interact with each other.
Good evening.

  1. Scam, as God will make it, I've never been scammed before because I dislike the habit of investing 2 naira and get 10 naira within few minutes.
    I believe in working hard to earn not just sit and earn.

  2. Whenever people react that steemit is scam, I invite them to read about the platform online.
    I also do explain that since they are depositing nothing, they have nothing to loose eventually it turns out to be a scam.
    Finally for those who know me personally, they know I can't lie because they have seen changes and they know I don't engage myself in quick money

 3 years ago 

Wow!!you cant lie, i would love to be your personal assistance dear

 3 years ago 

Lol
I hate lies with passion and people close to me can testify.
You are welcome to be my pa

 3 years ago 

You have been careful all your life. That is great. What if a trusted family member asked you to join something you suspect is scam, will you listen to them?

 3 years ago 

I don't know if I can easily fall.
Because I am a critical thinker and I hate quick cash.
A trusted friend tried to drag me or mmm but I vehemently refused simply because of my nature

Well lucky you i guess. Some times, some of us get desperate because of hardship and will want to double our money in a short time. But now trust me even if you are doubling money in my presence, i will totally ignore you. Like you said it is better to work hard and earn, that is why i am here.

 3 years ago 

I have been scammed before, it is a long story but i will try to make it,it happed in 1992 when i was doing rice business we were 4 business people that paid for rice my own was 24 bags others,30,20, and 10 bags, when the rice arrived we uploaded them in my packing store,when the driver and his people left, within 10 minutes we now entered my shop to Carry some bags to the market, we noticed that the rice was reducing up till now am still wondering how it happened, before we know it the the rice disappeared and remain just 8 bags before our very eyes, that day i read 2thimoty 3:1 so it helped me to endure the lost of ₦43,000 then and one of us the one that had the 30 bags fainted with his wife and 2 of them lost their life,the other 2 cried uncontrollable and i joined people to comfort them, that was my first time of experiencing scam.

 3 years ago 

Woow, this got me. Thank God for his word that kept you moving.

 3 years ago 

May Jehovah's name be blessed

 3 years ago 

So sad.
That wasn't ordinary at all.
Thank God you are alive to testify.
So imagine from way back, this scammers have been in existence.

 3 years ago 

Yes the Bible text i read that day helped me to endure

 3 years ago 

This is really strange. Disappearing bags of rice. Waooh, I have not heard about it. You are brave to enter the store again. AM sorry about the loss. Did you complain to the supplier? Sorry about the colleagues that died as a result. @ijelady

 3 years ago 

We did not see the supplier again even the shop where we bought the rice, as we went back to the big market to complain we found out that many big business men and women were scamed too

 3 years ago 

Hmm this is serious

JuJu follow that scam!

 3 years ago 

Only God knows

 3 years ago 

That's is the benefits of reading God's word the Bible every morning before our activities began. Thank Jehovah for comforting you with his word

 3 years ago 

Hello @focusnow,

I have never been scammed actually,I try I be very careful in my dealings with anyone.

Secondly, when some one says steemit is scam, I really be telling them that, if I can do steemit then it's not a scam. I have benefited a lot from steemit and there is no stopping.

 3 years ago 

Waooh. You have been so careful. So when people come with pay 5 to get 20 in 1 hour, what do you tell them? Have you been able to convince a doubter to join Steemit?

 3 years ago 

If someone say Steemit nis a scam, I will not argue with him, yes i will not because people have experienced so many online scam business so many will not believe that Steemit is different so the only thing i will do is to encourage him to make research and make decision

 3 years ago 

@focusnow
Yes... i have scammed, i saw a post on Facebook where people are thanking one guy like, this is his picture
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People were busy greeting him, up and down and i was like wow, pay 5 thousand and get 10 thousand? I also chatted the guy and asked him about it, i didn't know those people greeting him was his teammates, so i did transfer of five thousand and was waiting for transfer of ten thousand from their platform naso i lost money 5k. Not only that today being
September 26 a man sent me message concerning thesame platform here is the pictures I told him am not interested

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Secondly if someone comes now and tell me steemit is a scam, i won't believe you know why, because they are well organized and can allow you meet them physical that's the most acceptable part of believing isn't a scam, lastly they do pay as promised.

Yes I have been scammed couple of times. The most painful one happens when I was still in school.

 3 years ago 

Can you please tell us how it happened Sir. It must be painful to fall victim to scam severally @aizeeck

 3 years ago 

Thank God say them no kpuuff your head
Sorry ooooo Sha.☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

 3 years ago 

Please what is it dear

 3 years ago 

Such a terrible experience, though I am a victim but you can share us

 3 years ago 

Really sad

My course mate connected me to some guys that were into Forex trading then. The deal is that they will trade with your money and pay you 30% of whatever you invested.
I usually arrange my school fees on time before the beginning of each semester. I decided to use the money for the investment since I can pay the fees anytime before the exams. My course mate that introduced me got his returns several times. That is what convinced me the more.
I made the payment the first time. After 25 working days, I got my pay. I was happy, I did another one and got my pay again. My account manager there, encouraged me to gather more money for bigger pay. Even though I borrow from anybody but I increased my investment. The two times I have gotten, my capital as well as additional money was added. After 25 working days, I didn't hear from them. I called the account manager, his line wasn't going. I went to the office, it was swept clean. That was the last till now. I still retain my identity card for it as shown below
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 3 years ago 

Waooh. this is big time scam. Am sorry about it. Please how did you manage to pay your school fees? Have you heard from any of them again?

I work extra hard to replace the money. The last time I called the number, another person, a lady picked it.

 3 years ago 

Sorry I had to laugh a little.
You know most times it's like that.
They pay you back the first and second and when they got your 100% trust, they disappear and by then, you must have invested even more.

Sorry about your experience though

 3 years ago 

A very big term scamm

Lol. I'm so sorry,this is really funny. You said swept clean like no one existed there. I can imagine it. Next time you do ,when you collect 1 time,run o

 3 years ago 

I have been scammed before. There was a sand business deal in Uyo which people put millions of naira and get double of what they invest in the business in just one month. People were buying latest cars and land from it. Just when the deal was introduced to me, I invested with 480k and it never came back

 3 years ago 

What!!!! this must be so painful. Did they disappear with your money or what. When you asked questions, what did you discover?

 3 years ago 

They actually used to pay those that started early with them. And when more people get to know about it, they collected the money and started giving excuses until they finally ran away.

 3 years ago 

Oppps
Sorry about that

 3 years ago 

Thank you

 3 years ago 

Chai! Sorry my dear

 3 years ago 

Thank you

Ouch,so sorry about that. Sometimes we have to wait and think about things that involve huge amount

 3 years ago 

It was so heartbroken, I don't like talking about it. I used to feel the pain each time I remember it, even now

 3 years ago 

Question 1:
Have you ever been scamed? Share your experience with us

I have had a good scam attempt, but none has been successful. A friend of mine says my firewalls are too sensitive.
I am highly suspicious of business deals that comes my way. I sometimes loos genuine business due to my suspicions.
So i only have failed attempts to share....

 3 years ago 

Scamming is not a new thing, i have been not once,not twice but several occasions but one thing is for sure, you must serve before you become a boss

 3 years ago 

Waooh. Such a sad experience. We want to know what happened. Tell us the story @benton6

 3 years ago 

It goes this way, my bestie account was hacked and I didn't know, the scammer used my friend to chat me up about ponzi scheme and by then, I was in desperately in need of money, i made 20k payment to the account that was sent to me, the deal was to get 40k back in the next 1 hr but I waited patiently but no benefit, i called the number and the lady told me to hold oh, there are many people on queue , i should hold up but in the next 2 hrs, the number was off and i called my bestie and she told me her account was hacked the previous night, that is how my 20k went

 3 years ago 

Sad sad story. And this happened when you were looking for money. How did you feel then? Have you tried the number since then?

 3 years ago 

Yeap but different pick the call

 3 years ago 

Sorry ehn, thank God you have the experience.
Next time you wont fall victim again

 3 years ago 

Hopefully dear

So sorry my dear! It usually happen at ones weak point

 3 years ago 

They used to chat me up with this one @benson6 using my friends Facebook account and I will tell them to help me with the payment and we will share the interest 50/50. Once I am say this they will run. Never to chat again

 3 years ago 

Sorry about dear, experience is the best teacher

 3 years ago 

Too bad @benson6.I have lose many.

Oh yes! I have been scammed, you guys remember MMM that year. I used my year 2 school fee and house rent to register, the day i was supposed to cash out, was the day the site crashed. I almost had high blood pressure. Guess what guys i had to work to pay for my rent and school fee because my mum ignored me. I learnt my lesson though.
If someone says steemit is scam, i would see the person as lazy. Because, nobody is asking for your money here, you trade if you want to, and if you don't want to, you simply work to earn, use your intellectual capacity to earn, it is as simple as that. I am sure people that want quick money can't be on steemit.
Thanks for reading.
 3 years ago 

I love your mum.
Her boldness to ignore is a lesson you will never forget.

You are somehow right about being lazy
But some were victims of scam in the past and wouldn't want another heart break

It is in the process of wanting quick money that some of us get heartbroken, and in this case i presented to you an opportunity to make money with clear rules and you are still scared. In this case i will just take it that you don't want to work for the money which will make me see the person as lazy.

 3 years ago 

You are correct dear. It's only lazy person's that will reject Steemit

Yes because it takes patience and hardwork to earn on steemit.

Dont let me recall my experience there o. I even borrowed someone money to join,aftrr the first time,the person cashed out. The 2nd time i increased the amount and they zoomed off. Chai

Chai so sorry dear..

 3 years ago 

Question 2:
If someone says Steemit is Scam, how will you respond?

It took time to clear Steemit as legitimate, my being a steemian came after plenty of scrutiny.
To take off their fears

  • I let them know that they have nothing to loose because they are not asked to put in money
  • the website has no link to their account number

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