I tend to this solution. The ability to decrease the payout of a post with a click should come with some form of cost, because otherwise it will always be used for downvoting different opinions. As far as I can tell, free downvotes are mainly being used by large stakeholders, because users with less SP fear retaliation actions (for a good reason, because nobody wants his account being destroyed).
But... We need an account (maybe provided by Steemit) with a huge amount of SP to be able to fight plagiarism, extreme cases of rewardpool-harming selfvotes and other kinds of serious abuse. As downvoting would then come with a cost, because the VP cannot be used for upvoting content and earning curation rewards, there won't be many Steemians willing to provide such a service. That's why Steemcleaners etc. upvoted their own posts and comments all the time.
Also we would need automated systems that detect potential abuse. Some kind of toolset that can help the community to find abusive actors easier. I would say, it should even be publicly available, so that it is fair for everyone and nobody gets downvoted for personal reasons.
I agree with you.
For the little stakeholders the cost of the downvotes are the retaliation actions.
So only for large stakeholders the downvotes are free.
In my opinion their should (like it was before) cost in form of reducing the voting power.
고민이 많으나 저 역시 아예 없애는건 탈중앙화 및 백서 정신과 어긋난다고 생각합니다. 이상적으로는 negative delegation과 같이 다른 제도를 보완하는 것이 맞다고 생각되나 그건 차후 논의가 더 필요할 것 같고 일단 hf21 전으로 되돌리는 것이 좋은 상충안이라 생각되네요.
I tend to this solution. The ability to decrease the payout of a post with a click should come with some form of cost, because otherwise it will always be used for downvoting different opinions. As far as I can tell, free downvotes are mainly being used by large stakeholders, because users with less SP fear retaliation actions (for a good reason, because nobody wants his account being destroyed).
But... We need an account (maybe provided by Steemit) with a huge amount of SP to be able to fight plagiarism, extreme cases of rewardpool-harming selfvotes and other kinds of serious abuse. As downvoting would then come with a cost, because the VP cannot be used for upvoting content and earning curation rewards, there won't be many Steemians willing to provide such a service. That's why Steemcleaners etc. upvoted their own posts and comments all the time.
Also we would need automated systems that detect potential abuse. Some kind of toolset that can help the community to find abusive actors easier. I would say, it should even be publicly available, so that it is fair for everyone and nobody gets downvoted for personal reasons.
I agree with you.
For the little stakeholders the cost of the downvotes are the retaliation actions.
So only for large stakeholders the downvotes are free.
In my opinion their should (like it was before) cost in form of reducing the voting power.
I think without 'free' downvotes nobody will seriously try to stop any kind of abuse (why should he pay and not others?).
I agreee that 'free' flags are used mainly by whales because all others fear retaliation. That's why I am in favour to implement arbitors/committees of users to protect people from retaliation and flgas given just for personal reasons.
이전처럼 하면 될듯 합니다. 없애면 아쉬울듯 합니다.지금 처럼 공짜는 문제가 많습니다.
고민이 많으나 저 역시 아예 없애는건 탈중앙화 및 백서 정신과 어긋난다고 생각합니다. 이상적으로는 negative delegation과 같이 다른 제도를 보완하는 것이 맞다고 생각되나 그건 차후 논의가 더 필요할 것 같고 일단 hf21 전으로 되돌리는 것이 좋은 상충안이라 생각되네요.
무료 다운보팅만 없애는 게 우선일 것 같습니다~
다운보팅은 있어야 한다고 봅니다^^