A Comparison of the crimes of two countries and how they are viewed by the world. Part Two

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When I told a story about a country with a much greater death toll than Israel nobody seemed to know what I was talking about.
Pakistan matches up so closely with Israel on so many things.

1. Created as an ethno-religious state

In Urdu and Persian languages, the name encapsulates the concept of Pak ("pure") and stan ("land") and hence a "Pure Land".[

Important leaders in the Muslim League highlighted that Pakistan would be a 'New Medina', in other words the second Islamic state established after the Prophet Muhammad's creation of an Islamic state in Medina. Pakistan was popularly envisaged as an Islamic utopia, a successor to the defunct Turkish Caliphate and a leader and protector of the entire Islamic world. Islamic scholars debated over whether it was possible for the proposed Pakistan to truly become an Islamic state.[126][127]

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Pakistan's elected parliament promulgated the 1973 Constitution which proclaimed that no Pakistani law could contradict Islamic laws from the Quran and Sunnah.

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2. Created roughly the same time as Israel

http://www.un.org/en/sc/documents/resolutions/1948.shtml

3. Serious tension between two religious groups

Political scientist Ishtiaq Ahmed says that although Muslims started the violence in Punjab...
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4. Subsequent to formation a displacement of populations.

More than ten million people migrated across the new borders and between 200,000-2,000,000[146][147][148] people died in the spate of communal violence in the Punjab in what some scholars have described as a 'retributive genocide' between the religions.

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5.An internal insurgency

How the war and genocide started? The war broke out on 26 March 1971, when the Pakistani Army launched a military operation called Operation Searchlight against Bengali civilians, students, intelligentsia and armed personnel, who were demanding that the Pakistani military junta accept the results of the 1970 first democratic elections of Pakistan, which were won by an eastern party, or to allow separation between East and West Pakistan. Bengali politicians and army officers announced the declaration of Bangladesh’s independence in response to Operation Searchlight. Then the real war started. India entered the war on 3 December 1971, after Pakistan launched pre-emptive air strikes on northern India. Overwhelmed by two war fronts, Pakistani defenses soon collapsed. After that Bangladesh became an independent country.
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Where they differ is the crux of my argument

1. The massive nature of the displacement of populations in the formation of Pakistan dwarfs what happened in Israel.

The Partition of India was the process of dividing the subcontinent along sectarian lines, which took place in 1947 as India gained its independence from the British Raj. The northern, predominantly Muslim sections of India became the nation of Pakistan, while the southern and majority Hindu section became the Republic of India.

As independence neared, the country began to descend towards a sectarian civil war. Although Gandhi implored the Indian people to unite in peaceful opposition to British rule, the Muslim League sponsored a "Direct Action Day" on August 16, 1946, which resulted in the deaths of more than 4,000 Hindus and Sikhs in Calcutta (Kolkata). This touched off the "Week of the Long Knives," an orgy of sectarian violence that resulted in hundreds of deaths on both sides in various cities across the country.

Death Trains

The border was drawn right down the middle of the province, between Lahore and Amritsar. On both sides, people scrambled to get onto the "right" side of the border or were driven from their homes by their erstwhile neighbors. At least 10 million people fled north or south, depending on their faith, and more than 500,000 were killed in the melee. Trains full of refugees were set upon by militants from both sides, and all the passengers massacred.

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2.The brutality of the population exchange(on both sides but started by the Muslims) beggars belief with rape, torture, abduction on a large scale.

Nisid Hajari, in “Midnight’s Furies” (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt), his fast-paced new narrative history of Partition and its aftermath, writes, “Gangs of killers set whole villages aflame, hacking to death men and children and the aged while carrying off young women to be raped. Some British soldiers and journalists who had witnessed the Nazi death camps claimed Partition’s brutalities were worse: pregnant women had their breasts cut off and babies hacked out of their bellies; infants were found literally roasted on spits.”
By 1948, as the great migration drew to a close, more than fifteen million people had been uprooted, and between one and two million were dead.

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3.When the army put down an internal rebellion they showed no restraint, committing mass organized rape campaign, killing babies and stacking them in a pile(pictures in a forthcoming post), murder of a civilian population on a scale not seen before or since with three million murdered in the short span of nine months.

The genocide carried out by Pakistan army and their collaborators- Razakar, al-Badr, al-Shams- in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) in 1971 ranks as one of the most brutal genocides of 20th century.
Around 3,000,000 people were brutally killed by the Pakistan forces during the nine months war, the only instance of killing so many people within such a small duration, and were left dumped and buried in hundreds of mass graves and killing fields in Dhaka and across the country, which are still there as the witnesses of the heinous brutality.
However, these mass graves and killing fields are hard to find now as they are almost lost owing to lack of efforts to preserve these sites where many martyrs were buried or thrown in the marshes, canals and rivers after being killed, or were burnt alive.
In Dhaka, there are around 50 such sites according to the War Crimes Facts Finding Committee. Unfortunately, with the exception of a handful of these, including those of Rayer Bazar, Mirpur Intellectuals’ Graveyard, Jalladkhana, Jagannath Hall, Ramna Kali Bari and Razarbag Police Lines, most of other killing fields and mass graves are taken over by structures and developer companies. Even the locals cannot identify these locations any more.
Many Bangalees were taken behind the Mirpur Bangla College and tortured to death there. The Liberation War Museum found this place full of skeletons when it explored the area.

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In an interview, Bina D'costa interacted with the Australian doctor who performed Late-Term Abortions on the rape survivors. Here is an except of the interview-

B: How did they justify raping the women?

GD: They had orders of a kind or instruction from Tikka Khan to the effect that a good Muslim will fight anybody except his father. So what they had to do was to impregnate as many Bengali women as they could. That was the theory behind it.

B: Why did they have to impregnate the women? Did they tell you?

GD: Yes, so there would be a whole generation of children in East Pakistan that would be born with the blood from the West. That’s what they said.

B: Numerous documents from Pakistan still suggest that the number of rapes had been grossly exaggerated. Do you think that’s true?

GD: No. Probably the numbers are very conservative compared with what they did. The descriptions of how they captured towns were very interesting. They’d keep the infantry back and put artillery ahead and they would shell the hospitals and schools. And that caused absolute chaos in the town. And then the infantry would go in and begin to segregate the women. Apart from little children, all those were sexually matured would be segregated while the rest of the infantry tied… the rest of the town, which would involve shooting everybody who was involved with the East Pakistani government or the Awami League. And then the women would be put in the compound under guard and made available to the troops.

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During the war there were widespread killings and other atrocities. The casualty figures vary greatly, but it’s generally accepted 200,000–3,000,000 for Bangladesh as a whole. Also the exodus of 10 million refugees and the displacement of 30 million people. Numerous women were tortured, raped and killed during the war; the exact numbers are not known and are a subject of debate. Bangladeshi sources cite a figure of 200,000 women raped, giving birth to thousands of war babies.

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During the 1971 Bangladesh war for independence, members of the Pakistani military and supporting Islamist militias from Jamaat e Islami raped between two and four hundred thousand Bangladeshi women in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.[1][2][3][4] During the war, a fatwa in Pakistan declared that the Bengali freedom fighters were 'Hindus' and that their women could be taken as the 'booty of war'.[5] Imams and Muslim religious leaders publicly declared that the Bengali women were 'gonimoter maal' (war booty) and thus they openly supported the rape of Bengali women by the Pakistani Army.[6] Pakistani soldiers raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women and girls[7]. The activists and leaders of Islamic parties were also involved in the rapes and abduction of women. Scholars have suggested that rape was used to terrorise both the Bengali-speaking Muslim majority and the Hindu minority of Bangladesh. The rapes caused thousands of pregnancies, births of war babies, abortions, incidents of infanticide and suicide, and, in addition, led to ostracisation of the victims. Recognised as one of the major occurrences of war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pakistani_war_crimes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_committed_by_Pakistan

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Bangladesh_Liberation_War

4. The biggest difference by far is the condemnation, or rather lack thereof, from the rest of the world. I could find only five UN resolutions dealing with Pakistan directly( with another twenty or so dealing with the Kashmir) compared to Israel 's 225 UN resolutions regarding Israel .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions_concerning_Pakistan

"Decades of political maneuvering have created a disproportionate number of resolutions, reports and committees against Israel.

In response, Israel's Ambassador to the UN, Danny Danon, said Mr Ban "had admitted the clear truth", adding that the UN's hypocrisy towards Israel had "broken records over the past decade".

Mr Danon continued: “During this time the UN passed 223 resolutions condemning Israel,

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

No calls for Boycott, Divestment or Sanctions.

Nobody cares about the children ruthlessly murdered.
Religious minorities persecuted and oppressed and suffering under apartheid, Christians are known as sweepers because according to the Islamic supremacy laws(Sharia) no Christian can be in a position of power over a Muslim. Christians can be accused of blasphemy if a Muslim wants them dead or just wants their property.

Forced displacements

Since 2014, the Capital Development Authority (CDA), a public benefit corporation responsible for providing municipal services in Islamabad, has been targeting and demolishing illegal slums who are largely occupied by Christians in the city. The Supreme Court put on hold the demolitions and ordered from the CDA a written justification to it. The CDA's replied that "Most of these katchi abadies [slums] are under the occupation of the Christian community." "It seems this pace of occupation of land by Christian community may increase. Removal of katchi abadies is very urgent to provide [a] better environment to the citizen[s] of Islamabad and to protect the beauty of Islamabad ." Various human rights activists condemned the response.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Pakistan

No one cares about Pakistan's lobbying efforts inside the US.

How about the billions of dollars the US government gives to Pakistan!

What the United States spends in Pakistan
The United States began providing economic assistance along and military aid to Pakistan shortly after the country’s creation in 1947. In total, the United States obligated nearly $67 billion (in constant 2011 dollars) to Pakistan between 1951 and 2011.

https://www.cgdev.org/page/aid-pakistan-numbers

The United States has provided Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid since 2002.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/us/politics/us-aid-pakistan-terror.html

That's right no whining and complaining about the billions dollars funding a violent repressive Ethno-state that is belligerent to it's neighbors. Yes they fund and support violent terrorists that destabilize their neighbors.

What is to be made of this lopsided double standard?

Why are the much greater crimes ignored of a country that is under no outside threat. This country has no foreign funded enemies planted in their midst. A country where rape is used as a judicial punishment.

Sorry all you people out there hoping to have one single nation to focus your fear and insecurity on but Jews are not the Big Bad Wolf. Israel is not the big problem when it comes to human rights, and compared to most other countries with similar circumstances it is actually is the most righteous nation in it's actions.

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Excellent post, @openparadigm. Ugh. It is so sickening to see how murder rape and torture are repeated over and over and over and over. 100% upvoted, followed and Resteemed

This post is a logical fallacy. It doesn't dismiss the over 100 years of war crimes by the Israelis. I do agree that body counts matter and I'm not disputing the numbers, but IMO, all the carnage are machinations of a demiurge.

Your assertion that my post is a logical fallacy is fallaciously logical

  1. I didn't dismiss shit just compared
  2. Israel is only 69 years old, so learn some facts before spouting accusations.
  3. If some Evil god is in charge then we're fucked anyways

I'll start in reverse.

  1. Not true. In reality, the span of the demiurge is really quite small and limited to this earth. He does appear quite large though from the earth's perspective and to give evil its due I'd have to say that the control grid is impressive by anyone's standards.
    Here's the rub, though, and I have to preface by saying that the following are faith claims, and IMO, the claims are based on everything that is good, beautiful and true and not similar to the perverse ugly falsities of the archons and their control grid. Please correct me if any claim I make contradicts the faculties of reason and logic, as there is no spiritual truth where it's possible to do this. Only corrupted minds make irrational and illogical faith claims. Here are two examples: that the truth, beauty, and goodness of the Kristos and Sofia would make an example of any child on earth--this chosen people gambit was the work of corruption. A faith that asserts eternal punishment for earthly frailty is the work of corrupted archonic minds. This post would fill the internet if I continue so I'll stop here.
  2. Quibbling over dates doesn't dismiss facts. The minds and actions of the Zionists were well implemented before May of '48. Agent provocateurs on this issue were well at work long before the timespan I mentioned. To deny this is to deny the facts of history.
    3.Correct. But I'll add this: the breaking, entering, rape and murder of one house isn't lessened by the break and enter, rape and murder of multiple houses! They are all culpable to various degrees.

BTW: I've perused your page and if you're saying that there has been a collusion between​ the Rothschild's (and various Jewish families), The Jesuits, and Freemasons...well, then, I couldn't agree more.
This comment is not brought to you by the Tavistock Institute, Integral Incorporated, Mahayana​ Buddhism (sorry Mr. Sam Harris, now you're wrong on two fronts although correct on your stance when it comes to free will​), or Advaita Vedanta...Although this comment is sympathetic​ to Dvaita Vedanta.​
Oh, the audacity of it all...Have a good day, sir!

I'll get to your other points in a bit but as for the Rothschilds my claim was that they were lackeys of the Vatican and/or Jesuits.

Well lets start with one of the many "war crimes" you accuse israel of, please name one specifically. As in a specific instance, with a date.

States. I'm agin' 'em.

Nothing in this post excuses anyone for any crime. Two wrongs don't make a right.

It takes three lefts.

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